[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[Ragian]

Send me something fun rage

Blowup doll?

Agree with Aladdin totally. I can't believe that some people put in an effort to actually run such an awesome setup with so much crazyness and then get heat for it because they're not on top of everything. The thing is, we have nightchat. It's not like this now a dead thread. Moreover, a lot of players (including myself) are way too slow to keep up with this thread.

[the white rose]

point taken, but how much effort does it take to post a daily vc?

don't think we have had one official vc since D2 finished.

we have to work out for ourselves the vc, and what if there are variations in the vote, such as a doublevoter or a hated/loved townie? how can we possibly analyse the game?

come on mods, 15 minutes a day.... is that too much to ask?

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Unvote vote Falco to be sure he is lynched. I still preferred the lynch of DJ, but falco was on my list of ones I would be ok with lynching today.

[degaston]

Send me something fun rage

Blowup doll?

Watch out, Storr. It will blow you up when you use it.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Tis a shame, Falko was my really obvious doc "save" target! Gonna have to carefully consider now!

Fp by Deg - But the erotica quoted with it will blow your mind first

[the white rose]

i've given up with blow up dolls, last one i had, all i did was give it a love bite and the bloody thing farted and flew out of the window!

[StorrZerg]

Disrespectful to mods, the players in the game...

Madmitch should be on your list of possible people. In addition to other vt claims.

Psa, if wing shoots a role that could provide information and flips town. Lynch him. In addition he should have a very convincing reason for killing who ever he does. One line statement, or a link to a previous thing he said isn't enough.

[PLAYER57832]

Well, if falko is town as he claims, then it looks like town is pretty close to losing. If you are town, storr, then why lynch all claimed vanilla town?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Well, if falko is town as he claims, then it looks like town is pretty close to losing. If you are town, storr, then why lynch all claimed vanilla town?

Vt"s are low risk targets. Storr doesnt trust me and thinks it likely that I may shoot a valuable role based on a gut feeling they are scum. If my gut feel is wrong the cost is great. He has a point.

[AladdinSane]

Well, if falko is town as he claims, then it looks like town is pretty close to losing.

Even moor so if Virus and/or Marashu are modkilled and flip Town. Virus has asked to be MKed or replased, and I tink the mods sed their wont be eny moor replasements.

[StorrZerg]

Well, if falko is town as he claims, then it looks like town is pretty close to losing. If you are town, storr, then why lynch all claimed vanilla town?

i don't want to lynch all claimed vts. I'm just stating after risk assessment they are the best place to look right now for a mafia. All roles alive that have actions, could still be held in conflict and a lie. I wanted to lynch Wing today, but didn't garner enough support. I don't really recall that many people actually calling him town either...

Secondly there are a high proportion of vts, that have been VERY lacking in the game in terms of input. Be that reads, or general thoughts, if they are unable to help town with decisions, then i'd rather have an equally unhelpful role that might give some information. Be that good or bad information, its still worth it to be had

[PLAYER57832]

Not buying it.

[dakky21]

As last week, Streaker is AWOL and will return some time during this week. He does the VC's so... let's wait for him, though I also believe Falko is lynched.

[AladdinSane]

Ok I get that Storr might not be town, but why is he top of the lynch list? Dj and Falko stand well above by my book.

Storr has proved his role, and even if its not one shot, the worst he can do is bring back PCM who is basically a mafia goon. I dont get the lynch. Time tells more.

Well, do you tink Mets has cort Storr in a lie, or not? And why?

If Storr has been lying, dat shood be enuf to put him ahed of DJP and Falko on teh linch list, I wood say - unless he can convinse us dat teh lie was in Town's best innerests, but he has yet to do dat.

Orso, if Storr is scum, he prob woodent brink bak PCM, becorse PCM was Mafia and mite have his alinement changed to Town. More likely he wood brink bak PTLowe and we wood have too zombie ex-cops runnink around.

Storr is definitely lying, have you noticed that he has never actually claimed? But this is Storr so I expect such dirty play whether he is town or mafia. Why does the lying put him at the top of the lynch list? I've never understood that concept.

Psa, if wing shoots a role that could provide information and flips town. Lynch him. In addition he should have a very convincing reason for killing who ever he does. One line statement, or a link to a previous thing he said isn't enough.

Vt"s are low risk targets. Storr doesnt trust me and thinks it likely that I may shoot a valuable role based on a gut feeling they are scum. If my gut feel is wrong the cost is great. He has a point.

I wanted to lynch Wing today, but didn't garner enough support. I don't really recall that many people actually calling him town either...

Storr and Wing, can you guys pleese put yer heds together at Mafia HQ and coordinate yer stories?

Wing, it's not dat Storr tink's yer Town and likely to kill a useful Town by mistake - he's been trying to get yer linched orl day alreddy. Dat's either becorse he reely IS Town and tink's yer scum, OR he's Scum and is tryin to throw yer unner the bus.

I don't tink Storr sed "if wing shoots a role that could provide information and flips town. Lynch him" becorse he tinks you shood be punished fer getting it rong. If he is Town, it is becorse he tinks it wood be confermashun dat you are scum. If he is Scum, it is becorse he has awreddy conferred wit you an agreed he will shoot VT tonite.

I don't see you BOTH been Town.

@Wing: you sed above dat Mets cort Storr in a lie. Why arnt you moor conserned about it? Don't you want to get to teh bottom of dat?

[AladdinSane]

*an agreed Wing will shoot VT tonite.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

*an agreed Wing will shoot VT tonite.

I couldnt give a crap what anyone else thinks I should do. If I start allowing myself to be led then scum will control my power. This approach has really annoyed IB and Storr in the past, but I put it in the same category as my disagreement with Mets entire play style.

Wing, it's not dat Storr tink's yer Town and likely to kill a useful Town by mistake - he's been trying to get yer linched orl day alreddy. Dat's either becorse he reely IS Town and tink's yer scum, OR he's Scum and is tryin to throw yer unner the bus.

Storr's play is never that simple. Add in the possibility that he is town and thinks that I am also town and is trying to publically discredit me so that mafia allow me to live and I get to pick them off one by one for our victory.

[StorrZerg]

Not buying it.

you realize everyone has "claimed town" you realize some of them are lying, mafia have 100% claimed vt.

[StorrZerg]

As last week, Streaker is AWOL and will return some time during this week. He does the VC's so... let's wait for him, though I also believe Falko is lynched.

can you just do a vote count. its not that hard....

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Why be a co mod instead of playing if you can't even perform an official vote count?

[AladdinSane]

Storr's play is never that simple. Add in the possibility that he is town and thinks that I am also town and is trying to publically discredit me so that mafia allow me to live and I get to pick them off one by one for our victory.

Dat did ocur to me as a posibility but, susposing you are Town, and you tink Storr is Town and tinks you are Town orso, why blow up teh plan by bringink it to evrywun's - esp. Mafia's - atenshun?

And if dat is teh plan, it seems a pritty poor wun enyway - you can't "pick them off one by one for our victory", becorse we dont no who dey are yet. Orso, i tink even if you managed to kill wun, you wood shoot strait to teh top of their list agin and be a target teh neckst nite. Orso orso, dey prob have higher priority targets - perhaps Marashu (if he hasent shown up in Mafia ranks, dey wood feer he is still Town), / (Slash), myself, fer eggsampul.

[AladdinSane]

Ok I get that Storr might not be town, but why is he top of the lynch list? Dj and Falko stand well above by my book.

Storr has proved his role, and even if its not one shot, the worst he can do is bring back PCM who is basically a mafia goon. I dont get the lynch. Time tells more.

Well, do you tink Mets has cort Storr in a lie, or not? And why?

If Storr has been lying, dat shood be enuf to put him ahed of DJP and Falko on teh linch list, I wood say - unless he can convinse us dat teh lie was in Town's best innerests, but he has yet to do dat.

Orso, if Storr is scum, he prob woodent brink bak PCM, becorse PCM was Mafia and mite have his alinement changed to Town. More likely he wood brink bak PTLowe and we wood have too zombie ex-cops runnink around.

Storr is definitely lying, have you noticed that he has never actually claimed? But this is Storr so I expect such dirty play whether he is town or mafia. Why does the lying put him at the top of the lynch list? I've never understood that concept.

@Wing: you sed above dat Mets cort Storr in a lie. Why arnt you moor conserned about it? Don't you want to get to teh bottom of dat? Do you see it as a pro-Town lie? If so, why?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

@Aladdin - I was pushing a lynch through, not putting permanent brakes on all the cases. Feel free to continue to push Storr now.

It is best if I can take a back seat on day lynches with my role as until I know what the mafia manipulation role(s) is/are making my reads obvious puts town players in greater danger. I will not step in unless I have to because important points are being missed.

With regards to your other post. I have a strong feeling that mafia do not have a clear leader, so I plan to mentally screw with them so they make mistakes. Bonus, its great fun.

[Metsfanmax]

Well, if falko is town as he claims, then it looks like town is pretty close to losing. If you are town, storr, then why lynch all claimed vanilla town?

Vt"s are low risk targets. Storr doesnt trust me and thinks it likely that I may shoot a valuable role based on a gut feeling they are scum. If my gut feel is wrong the cost is great. He has a point.

With great power comes great responsibility. A vig should never shoot just because he can.

[rishaed]

Well, if falko is town as he claims, then it looks like town is pretty close to losing. If you are town, storr, then why lynch all claimed vanilla town?

Vt"s are low risk targets. Storr doesnt trust me and thinks it likely that I may shoot a valuable role based on a gut feeling they are scum. If my gut feel is wrong the cost is great. He has a point.

With great power comes great responsibility. A vig should never shoot just because he can.

[AladdinSane]

Well, if falko is town as he claims, then it looks like town is pretty close to losing. If you are town, storr, then why lynch all claimed vanilla town?

Vt"s are low risk targets. Storr doesnt trust me and thinks it likely that I may shoot a valuable role based on a gut feeling they are scum. If my gut feel is wrong the cost is great. He has a point.

With great power comes great responsibility. A vig should never shoot just because he can.

I dunno. We orl tink it is okay fer Town to linch just becorse it can - becorse just about evrywun agrees a linch is better than no linch, even D1 wen their is not mutch to go on. Why is it diffrunt fer vigs?