[Exp] CYOC! #4 Endgame! Town wins, you filthy animals

[strike wolf]

havent been in most of the games lately, just a few. so why is dakky scum "again" according to you? (end wing?) i dont see it from the post your referring to.

Perhaps I shouldn't answer for end and wing but suggesting a ludicrous theory about an NYC killer which again would be ludicrous, seems like a distraction. It's an impossible theory (as an NPC killer serves no function so even the suggestion of it as unlikely has no real relevance to anything going on in the game. Stating that NPCS were killed by NPcs is also irrelevant and distracting.

Fper by tim. This post also has no real logic behind it.

[Endgame422]

Dakky was scum in 2/3 of the last games that i was involved with but thats not really the point.
Of course its the jokevote stage so im far from certain he is scum but that comment was strange,he seemed to be trying to downplay the scene "subtly" and it seemed like enough reason to give him a push and see how he reacts.
His reaction doesnt really do much for me and id consider him for a claim later but theres lots of time here.
Vote Pancakemix
Can we trust you pancake?

[TimWoodbury]

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Vote Pancakemix
Can we trust you pancake?

can only trust pancakemix if the mixings have blueberries

[dakky21]

Dakky was scum in 2/3 of the last games that i was involved with but thats not really the point.
Of course its the jokevote stage so im far from certain he is scum but that comment was strange,he seemed to be trying to downplay the scene "subtly" and it seemed like enough reason to give him a push and see how he reacts.
His reaction doesnt really do much for me and id consider him for a claim later but theres lots of time here.

What about this reaction... what's the chance to be mafia in 3 out of 4 games... AND I can prove I am town.

[strike wolf]

Dakky was scum in 2/3 of the last games that i was involved with but thats not really the point.
Of course its the jokevote stage so im far from certain he is scum but that comment was strange,he seemed to be trying to downplay the scene "subtly" and it seemed like enough reason to give him a push and see how he reacts.
His reaction doesnt really do much for me and id consider him for a claim later but theres lots of time here.

What about this reaction... what's the chance to be mafia in 3 out of 4 games... AND I can prove I am town.

I hate when plauers do this. Don't state you are town and can prove it. Fight accusations. The case on you is small. Easily defended. You have defended much of it already. Stating you can prove yourself town isn't something players should be impatient to do before you even accrue votes. It is something you do when you have not been able to defend yourself. *walks off in a huff*

[Marashu]

Dakky was scum in 2/3 of the last games that i was involved with but thats not really the point.
Of course its the jokevote stage so im far from certain he is scum but that comment was strange,he seemed to be trying to downplay the scene "subtly" and it seemed like enough reason to give him a push and see how he reacts.
His reaction doesnt really do much for me and id consider him for a claim later but theres lots of time here.

What about this reaction... what's the chance to be mafia in 3 out of 4 games... AND I can prove I am town.

The chance is proportional to the town:mafia ratio. This game is this game, and using trends from past games as evidence is a gambler's fallacy. Also, just getting this out now, I'm hoping your proof isn't early claiming (especially since claiming really wouldn't accomplish much in this game, I think).

Well, you're reading me wrong this time. If/when I'm lynched, you will learn more of my play style. Thought I had enough games already so you can see when I'm lying and when I'm not.

If you're aware of your tell, it stops being an effective tell for other players. I'm not sure that overreacting D1 is an effective play style, though you have become the center of discussion, so if that was your aim, then kudos.

[strike wolf]

Dakky was scum in 2/3 of the last games that i was involved with but thats not really the point.
Of course its the jokevote stage so im far from certain he is scum but that comment was strange,he seemed to be trying to downplay the scene "subtly" and it seemed like enough reason to give him a push and see how he reacts.
His reaction doesnt really do much for me and id consider him for a claim later but theres lots of time here.

What about this reaction... what's the chance to be mafia in 3 out of 4 games... AND I can prove I am town.

The chance is proportional to the town:mafia ratio. This game is this game, and using trends from past games as evidence is a gambler's fallacy. Also, just getting this out now, I'm hoping your proof isn't early claiming (especially since claiming really wouldn't accomplish much in this game, I think).

Well, you're reading me wrong this time. If/when I'm lynched, you will learn more of my play style. Thought I had enough games already so you can see when I'm lying and when I'm not.

If you're aware of your tell, it stops being an effective tell for other players. I'm not sure that overreacting D1 is an effective play style, though you have become the center of discussion, so if that was your aim, then kudos.

Easy example of where the gamblers fallacy presents itself. Traditional odds would say that mafia makes up between 1/3 and 1/4 of the players. So pick any 3/4 games with a certain player and he should only be mafia in roughly one of them right? Yet the last three games involving me and aage (Harry Potter where we both played, Foundation which I hosted and PYOM which we played) Aage was mafia in all 3.

You could even argue that one of the main goals of a mafia during the day is to imitate their town goals so closely that the rest of town cannot tell it apart from your normal town play.

The point has not addressed, how is you pointing out the kills being possibly NPC relevant to the game? We know there are scum in this game (there is a slight possibility of just one but a single SK would be difficult to balance in a game this size), who committed the kill is irrelevant and suggesting it was a NPC or a function less NPC killer is irrelevant. The only possible counter scenario is if this is a cult game. It comes off as a distraction and as end put it roughly a misdirection.

[ptlowe]

Confirmed

[ptlowe]

BTW I read the opening way the same. 1 faction two kills.

and

You killed Kenny YOU BASTARDS!!!!!.....

[Endgame422]

Claiming is still valuable in my eyes as scum become accountable for actions,even if we are unsure they are scum.
If we know player y has power x we can look at how he is using it to help determine his alignment or prevent him from using said power against obvious townies.
That said if dakky claims and he cannot prove his towniness like he says he can ill want him lynched,he has fooled me with a similiar play when he was scum before.
Dont claim this early unless you have a plan of how it will help town.

[Iron Butterfly]

Dakky was scum in 2/3 of the last games that i was involved with but thats not really the point.
Of course its the jokevote stage so im far from certain he is scum but that comment was strange,he seemed to be trying to downplay the scene "subtly" and it seemed like enough reason to give him a push and see how he reacts.
His reaction doesnt really do much for me and id consider him for a claim later but theres lots of time here.
Vote Pancakemix
Can we trust you pancake?

Yeh and your always scum from my perspective from what comes out of your mouth.

What someone says about the scene is pure speculation. Its all speculation.

Kenny never dies so he wasn't really killed. Bean?? Hes like the red shirts from Star Trek with his life expectancy. What does this mean?? Hell if I know.

[dakky21]

That said if dakky claims and he cannot prove his towniness like he says he can ill want him lynched,he has fooled me with a similiar play when he was scum before.
Dont claim this early unless you have a plan of how it will help town.

I have a plan, don't worry
My plan involves killing mafia, or at least I think who mafia is... you're not helping attacking me... but you're helping deciding me who is town and who is not...

[benga]

wow Tim is a major!

Vote Tim
he must have high connections to get to major!

[benga]

That said if dakky claims and he cannot prove his towniness like he says he can ill want him lynched,he has fooled me with a similiar play when he was scum before.
Dont claim this early unless you have a plan of how it will help town.

I have a plan, don't worry
My plan involves killing mafia, or at least I think who mafia is... you're not helping attacking me... but you're helping deciding me who is town and who is not...

my 2nd game with you and you are SK again!

[Streaker]

havent been in most of the games lately, just a few. so why is dakky scum "again" according to you? (end wing?) i dont see it from the post your referring to.

because dakkys ass was skum in the last game so i also agreevote dakky because he must be skum due to ebing skum in last active game

Are you serious, or do you consider this a joke vote/post?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Actually I think NPC's are non playing characters, so they were killed probably by some other NPC's. It doesn't have to mean these were a faction kills or that there is someone who can kill only NPC's. Not saying it's impossible, just improbable.

Dakky seems to know so much, yet is pretending to know nothing. Its not an argument that wil stand up, just a gut feeling.

He did just soft claim vig....

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Actually I think NPC's are non playing characters, so they were killed probably by some other NPC's. It doesn't have to mean these were a faction kills or that there is someone who can kill only NPC's. Not saying it's impossible, just improbable.

Dakky seems to know so much, yet is pretending to know nothing. Its not an argument that wil stand up, just a gut feeling.

He did just soft claim vig....

Which on second thought makes sense. Kenny and Sean Bean died without Dakky having shot either of them, hence why he has tried to find logic for it.

In hindsight this was one of those times I should have stayed quiet about noticing a soft claim that may well have gone unnoticed by the majority.

[benga]

dakky is lawys such an easy target, he seems to being able to provoke much interest about his alignment/sex preferences

[madmitch]

Why two kills and not three? the opening scene said a pair of room mates a sleep in their beds ,so they killed one WHY? and then they went into the living room and killed again, who was the second sleeping room mate and why did he survived ? any thoughts people?

[Streaker]

Why two kills and not three? the opening scene said a pair of room mates a sleep in their beds ,so they killed one WHY? and then they went into the living room and killed again, who was the second sleeping room mate and why did he survived ? any thoughts people?

Don't look into flavour that much, because it's just that. Flavour. It's most likely an error in the opening scene, where TFO misplaced one of the characters.

[madmitch]

okay thanks, just thought I should ask, you can never tell. this game is going to be crazy enough anyway

[Streaker]

dakky is lawys such an easy target, he seems to being able to provoke much interest about his alignment/sex preferences

Do you want to lynch him?

[benga]

dakky is lawys such an easy target, he seems to being able to provoke much interest about his alignment/sex preferences

Do you want to lynch him?

You have dirty mind, I like it!

[Endgame422]

I have a plan, don't worry
My plan involves killing mafia, or at least I think who mafia is... you're not helping attacking me... but you're helping deciding me who is town and who is not...

Soft claim of vig and a thinly veiled threat to kill me if i dont stop pushing him.
If you are town vig,(which i kinda doubt)threatening players is not the way to play it.
No matter my alignment is,suggesting that you will kill me only makes scums life easier tonight.
If im town scum will just ignore you,if im scum then your shot will be interfered with.
I think you understand this dakky,which leads me to believe 2 things.
1. You intend to coerce/kill players that support lynching you.
2. You are unconcerned with hurting towns chances if it means your survival.
Those 2 things say you are not town-aligned to me.
Id be inclined to believe that you are maybe 3rd party survivor here but 3rd party survivor who has NK ability?
Thats usually called a serial killer.

[madmitch]

I believe he is dakky duck of the looney tune gang ,keep a close eye on him and that rascally rabbit