Political Mafia -- Liberals Win

[dazza2008]

He's not drunk. I was talking to him on whatsapp. Most sober person I have met. Epi was in the chat too so he knows. Sober BG wants to stab Epi in the back. We'll protect you Epi without the backstabbing.

[Epitaph1]

BG wants me dead for reasons unrelated to this particular mafia game.

Acting like I didn't hold up my end of the bargain because I didn't shoot a lib yesterday? Please. I don't remember ever agreeing to shoot anyone from either side. You guys (from both sides) kept chiding me to do so. Heck, I didn't even decide to vote with the cons until the 11th hour.

Streaker is right, I'm looking for a path to the win. My gun is a double edged sword: on one hand it helps me negotiate better but it also makes me more likely to get killed at night. My only saving grace regarding the latter, as many have pointed out, is that my allegiance is subject to change so people would be better attacking known members from the opposite party.

One thing I'm curious about is the other 3p. I'm assuming everything JamesKer said about there being 3 more 3ps out there, with varying alignments, is untrue. But tonka has admitted there is a 3p within his ranks. I'm curious why he/she is just sticking with the cons and hoping it works out or if he/she plans to jump ship if they go down in numbers.

Doesn't seem like anything noteworthy happened during the night either. I suppose why would it? The lines have been drawn, so conventional scum hunting is irrelevant this game.

Also, I'm going out of town in 2 days for a week. I'll have my phone but will be in the mountains, so I can't guarantee internet connection.

[got tonkaed]

I am kind of done with Epi at this point guys. Streaker there is no need to call a vote at any point during the day.

Sorry you won't join us despite the fact that you can win easier with us than without.

[Streaker]

Epi, you are correct about never agreeing to shooting anyone, it was more of an assumption if anything.
You also bring up the double edged sword yourself now, using your shot would make you a lot safer as I pointed out.

I must insist you stick with us conservatives, and use your power today before I call the vote. This would free up any protective abilities that are currently being used on you, whilest keeping you safe. If you decide to roll with us, that would be the best course of action.

Whilst I don't have much else to bargain with myself, I could suggest you pick someone of your choosing from the lib list to shoot, and you get to choose the lib where we vote on.

FP'd by Tonka, will respond in next post

[Streaker]

I am kind of done with Epi at this point guys. Streaker there is no need to call a vote at any point during the day.

Sorry you won't join us despite the fact that you can win easier with us than without.

Ofcourse there is a point in calling the vote, but that decision lies with Epi.
The path to victory lies open, Epi. Shoot a lib and take the next step.

[got tonkaed]

He isn't shooting anyone in the next two days. He probably does not have a day shot at all if we are being honest.

If Epi could win by merely surviving, he would have joined us long ago and there wouldn't have been a dead Con(assumed 3rd party) member last night.

[BGtheBrain]

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[Streaker]

Epi implied he would shoot and had no problem fueling that speculation.

Regardless, Im moving on.

Also, he will conveniently be out of town for the next week, so he wont be very helpful anyways.

Whats the game plan at this point?

I'm seriously contemplating just calling the vote very soon. My maths tell me we still have upperhand based on the last lynch.

Cons: 9 + mitch = 10 - virus = 8 (- epi would mean 7)

Libs: 8 - james (whatever that role was, I pm'd the mod about this and he said he'd give details upon day start but didn't see them). = 7

So it will be a coin flip to see who has most players online to vote within the 24 hours.

[BGtheBrain]

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[Streaker]

1. Epi shoots one of dakky or Endgame
2. Shot lib flips either double voter or another role
3. We lynch the one that wasn't shot
4. Lynched lib is either another role or double voter (whichever one Epi shot wasn't)
5. We remove the lib double voter and another role from the lib, which could even be the vote stealer

Henceforth referred to as Plan A

Epi, combine this with my previous post I will call 'The path the victory'.
What are you still doubting about? We have clearly put forth our cards for you here.

Remember, I will call the vote upon you shooting so you can still vote with us before your vacation/absence.

[BGtheBrain]

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[dazza2008]

He wants you dead based on something else????

He said here clearly that he thinks you are scum.

Epi needs to go.

I think he is scum and totally playing us both.

Every day will come down to us begging him to switch side. Kind of convenient there is only 1 NK. Sounds like 3rd party is most likely mafia.

[Streaker]

He leaves in 24 hours, soooo....

44 hours or something now. Plenty of time.

FP'd by dazza
Completely irrelevant to this discussion. Don't derail the Conservative Proposal to Epi (project CP.E) with those shenanigans. The decision is simple for Epi. I'm leaving soon, I will decide my own action based on what Epi has done by tomorrow.

[BGtheBrain]

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[Iron Butterfly]

Epi is really George Soros.

[Epitaph1]

Just call the vote, Streaker. I'll vote with you guys today, but I'm keeping my shot.

A con already turned up dead after the night and you have NO idea what roles the libs have. Yet some people act like all I need to do is keep voting with you and it'll be smooth sailing? Give me a break. I'm making my decision on a day-by-day basis, so don't give me some BS that I'm "not holding up my end of the bargain" when I've never committed to anything.

If there is a SK/scum, it's probably the other 3p that's hidden--not the one that has all his cards on the table and would be the obvious target for investigations.

[BGtheBrain]

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[Endgame422]

2 days in a row with the deciding vote,and 2x your going to side with the cons?
I should have let them lynch you D1.
You sure have a short memory.

[dakky21]

2 days in a row with the deciding vote,and 2x your going to side with the cons?
I should have let them lynch you D1.
You sure have a short memory.

BG may be right on this one.
Epi will again side with cons, and again lynch one lib and one Cons will get NK'ed.
So slowly each day both parties lose members while he is kept alive.
It is making me believe Epi doesn't have the day kill ability, but the night kill and not only once, but every night.

[Epitaph1]

BG's post actually cuts against him. . . once again showing that I never agreed to shoot anyone. Also, SK and scum don't have day kill abilities. I guess the mod can do whatever he wants, but day kill + NK abilities? No.

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End, I've got to go with the majority. If you can convince the other 3p to join you guys or if BG switches sides, then I'll go with you. If I join you atm, the best we can do is get a no lynch.

Btw, does anyone else think BG's claim is made up? Says he has the possibility that he can switch sides, probably so he isn't targeted at night.

[BGtheBrain]

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[got tonkaed]

BG's post actually cuts against him. . . once again showing that I never agreed to shoot anyone. Also, SK and scum don't have day kill abilities. I guess the mod can do whatever he wants, but day kill + NK abilities? No.

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End, I've got to go with the majority. If you can convince the other 3p to join you guys or if BG switches sides, then I'll go with you. If I join you atm, the best we can do is get a no lynch.

Btw, does anyone else think BG's claim is made up? Says he has the possibility that he can switch sides, probably so he isn't targeted at night.

The point is, at this point without you using the ability we more or less believe you are the sk/mafia.

Id ask us to RB you if I thought we had one.

[Army of GOD]

I don't think we ever required Epi to shoot anyone yesterday.


Though, he can do it today and guarantee victory for us.

[Epitaph1]

Funny how everyone wants me to turn in my most powerful bargaining chip. I'd be saying the same to you guys if you had a 1s day kill ability too.

[BGtheBrain]

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