CC is declining again!

[ConfederateSS]

A couple of more whiners that quit,sure sounds like an attack.1)I wasn't attacking them,just saying why I don't like playing in tourneys(HA 200th not 100th),which is my right and how I spend my time.Like someone doesn't have enough time and quit the paper.2) I never quit,instead I joined an Event,that is not a tourney,or is it?..Why,because in the summer I was talking about a World War I Event,maybe with Europe 1914,End of Empires map,etc. with a couple of different settings.Where we pick 2 or 3 to join.If we win one, we get a Medal..Never did I believe in an Event so long,that those who started it,might not be here in four years.I am going to watch,play and enjoy The Great War.Knowing that no matter what happens..CC folds,or a awesome change is made,canceling The Great War..I'll be laughing,laughing...YES, the truth is often called nonsense.. ..ConfederateSS..out!!!!!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...P.S..I also Thank ,when it is called for..I also admit when I make a mistake..I correct it..I don't dance around ,with Blah,Blah,Blah.......

[JBlombier]

ConfederateSS, would you please use less periods. I always start reading your posts, but quit halfway, because the way it is written annoys the f*ck out of me. Sorry for being this explicit, but I'm sure most users here would like to see you phrase a sentence that starts with a capital letter and ends with one (!) period.

Also, I didn't respond, because I was kinda surprised, but... glad you apologized Dukasaur. Your point gets across a lot better now.

[ConfederateSS]

They all start with CAPITAL LETTERS.....LOOK......CLOSER.......Yes,it is nice when someone has to be begged to ...Give a heartless apology.....ConfederateSS...out!!!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...I'm glad my writing annoys...That's how the masses of us regular users,get our points across.......To the Special...cliques......

[Endgame422]

ConfederateSS, would you please use less periods. I always start reading your posts, but quit halfway, because the way it is written annoys the f*ck out of me. Sorry for being this explicit, but I'm sure most users here would like to see you phrase a sentence that starts with a capital letter and ends with one (!) period.

Also, I didn't respond, because I was kinda surprised, but... glad you apologized Dukasaur. Your point gets across a lot better now.

Confederates posts would certainly be better received and probably taken more seriously if he even attempted to type like the majority of people who have keyboards.
That said, i always imagine his voice as the crazy old Vietnam veteran guy on duck dynasty because of the style and it makes me laugh.
Keep it up SS

[isaiah40]

10526...

Over 1100 new members in the last 24 hours??? I highly doubt it.... Something smells fishy on the full scoreboard page.

9 days after the books were cooked we are down to 10078 active members!! LOL!

[ConfederateSS]

It is nice to have an old school fan club. With ebonics and text messaging,everyone does what they want now a days. I will admit I could use paragraphs more. As for the hoopla. It was my first ever tournament and I should not have had to deal with such crap. If I chose not to play in them. That was my choice and does not need such a response. I can't imagine why CC is Declining. ConfederateSS..out!!.(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).P.S..endgame. This ones for you.Well Doggie!!..possum on a gum bush. Now that hits the nail on the head..

[2007spaceodyssey]

10526...

Over 1100 new members in the last 24 hours??? I highly doubt it.... Something smells fishy on the full scoreboard page.

It took less than 2 weeks to get that number back down, to 9941 now.

[keyborn]

10526...

Over 1100 new members in the last 24 hours??? I highly doubt it.... Something smells fishy on the full scoreboard page.

It took less than 2 weeks to get that number back down, to 9941 now.

Which means the real number is 9356...

[WILLIAMS5232]

10526...

Over 1100 new members in the last 24 hours??? I highly doubt it.... Something smells fishy on the full scoreboard page.

It took less than 2 weeks to get that number back down, to 9941 now.

Which means the real number is 9356...

actually, if you sort by completed games and only list those that have completed a game that matters like they used to. (showing a completed game that is not counted as a zero) youll see the number is much lowere. try
8637

[_sabotage_]

7565 have completed more than ten games. Down from 7914 on 15 of Jan.

[iAmCaffeine]

Maybe.

[Endgame422]

If you want to know real decline or incline trend of CC, you should rather look at monthly scoreboards rather than on overall scoreboard. Monthly scoreboard qualification criterium is completed at least 20 games per a month, so that shows better about actual activity of members. Whoever finishes more than 20 games per month can be called really active member, very likely premium member, so I think trend of overall CC activity can be better tracked from that data.

12/2014: 1998
11/2014: 1994
10/2014: 1953
09/2014: 1919
08/2014: 2003
07/2014: 2076
06/2014: 2193
05/2014: 2364
04/2014: 2540

There is no data available before April 2014, although data were tracked since October 2013. I believe that bigwham cleared the data before April 2014 when he fixed the long lasting problem about site lag bug.
The lag bug was fixed on October 12th, 2014, so we can observe that long lasting decline of at least 6 consecutive months was converted into at least 3 consecutive months of incline, in terms of number of players per month who finished at least 20 games. It will be interesting to see if the incline will continue, with new site additions from December/January. Currently, there are 1689 players in monthly scoreboard for January, with 7 more days still to go.

Final data for January 2015:
2096 members with a score above 800 and 20 finished games. The high point this far in this little uptick(since the lowpoint in September). A roughly 5 percent increase.
February will be interesting with the shortest time frame of the year.

[josko.ri]

If you want to know real decline or incline trend of CC, you should rather look at monthly scoreboards rather than on overall scoreboard. Monthly scoreboard qualification criterium is completed at least 20 games per a month, so that shows better about actual activity of members. Whoever finishes more than 20 games per month can be called really active member, very likely premium member, so I think trend of overall CC activity can be better tracked from that data.

12/2014: 1998
11/2014: 1994
10/2014: 1953
09/2014: 1919
08/2014: 2003
07/2014: 2076
06/2014: 2193
05/2014: 2364
04/2014: 2540

There is no data available before April 2014, although data were tracked since October 2013. I believe that bigwham cleared the data before April 2014 when he fixed the long lasting problem about site lag bug.
The lag bug was fixed on October 12th, 2014, so we can observe that long lasting decline of at least 6 consecutive months was converted into at least 3 consecutive months of incline, in terms of number of players per month who finished at least 20 games. It will be interesting to see if the incline will continue, with new site additions from December/January. Currently, there are 1689 players in monthly scoreboard for January, with 7 more days still to go.

Final data for January 2015:
2096 members with a score above 800 and 20 finished games. The high point this far in this little uptick(since the lowpoint in September). A roughly 5 percent increase.
February will be interesting with the shortest time frame of the year.

What is important is that steady increase is already for 4th consecutive month. Before that it was at least 5 consecutive months (if not more) of decline.

[Dukasaur]

9847

[WILLIAMS5232]

9847

this number is no longer relevant. once the books were cooked there is no basis to go off of any longer. you might as well just say the number is 17,429. it would look better and still hold pretty much the same value of worthlessness.

[BoganGod]

2nd longest active thread in CCD is now dead. Killed by cooked books. How do we track the great decline without proper data?

[Dukasaur]

9847

this number is no longer relevant. once the books were cooked there is no basis to go off of any longer. you might as well just say the number is 17,429. it would look better and still hold pretty much the same value of worthlessness.

I think I proved to you quite conclusively that they way they are counting now is, in fact, consistent with the way things were always counted. If you've forgotten already, read it again:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=152877&start=2100#p4614746

Not a cooking of the books at all, the change actually corrected the anomaly that guide games had introduced into the count.

[WILLIAMS5232]

9847

this number is no longer relevant. once the books were cooked there is no basis to go off of any longer. you might as well just say the number is 17,429. it would look better and still hold pretty much the same value of worthlessness.

I think I proved to you quite conclusively that they way they are counting now is, in fact, consistent with the way things were always counted. If you've forgotten already, read it again:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=152877&start=2100#p4614746

Not a cooking of the books at all, the change actually corrected the anomaly that guide games had introduced into the count.

oh here we go again.

all you proved to me is,
"games that do not give, or take away points now count towards your rank on how many points you gain or lose"
ok, i get it. the books have been cooked.


you are missing my point tho' i think.

"this thread is dead. quit posting a number that is in no longer relevant towards the number that has been posted for over 3 years"

EDIT; before there were no guide games, bot games, or scenarios' or whatever else that would never carry the site on it's on. so whatever games you are trying to say then, are similiar to what is now, is pure bunk. it should not be compared.

[spoiler=ol ducky sayz]Let's take one real example. (Found this one in this thread:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=207240&start=25#p4566833)
Billy the Kid. Signed up July 11th, 2007, stayed for 3 minutes, never came back. Joined one game, Game 622690. Took two turns and left. A few days later, was duly kicked out of the game for missing three turns. (2007-07-17 09:53:48 - billy the kid was kicked out for missing too many turns) A few minutes later, somebody finished the game, and it was over. At that point, Billy the Kid, who had deadbeated out after taking only two turns, would have been counted as having finished one game, and he would have appeared on the scoreboard. Then he would have remained on the scoreboard until August 10th, 2007, 30 days after the day he took his two turns.

The only difference between then and now is that now if Billy the Kid shows up, he is steered toward a guide game, and the rule with guide games is that if the NR deadbeats out, the games are automatically deleted so the veterans don't have to waste time playing them out.

Billy the Kid was on the scoreboard in 2007, and if Killy the Bid shows up and does basically the same thing in 2015, he will appear on the scoreboard, but there will be no "completed" game to show because it will have been deleted.

That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying that these people should be counted. I'm only saying that they always were, so if you want to compare apples to apples, if you want to compare 2007 numbers to 2015 numbers and make it a meaningful comparison, you need to count such people in 2015 because they were counted in 2007.[/spoiler]

whether or not billy the kid deadbeated, he still lost points then. now no points are transferred. what's the point in points and a scoreboard if you get to sit on a scoreboard without risking them.

so again, we're not comparing apples to apples. we're comparing them to pickles. or maybe sweet potatoes.

[Dukasaur]

9847

this number is no longer relevant. once the books were cooked there is no basis to go off of any longer. you might as well just say the number is 17,429. it would look better and still hold pretty much the same value of worthlessness.

I think I proved to you quite conclusively that they way they are counting now is, in fact, consistent with the way things were always counted. If you've forgotten already, read it again:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=152877&start=2100#p4614746

Not a cooking of the books at all, the change actually corrected the anomaly that guide games had introduced into the count.

oh here we go again.

all you proved to me is, "games that do not give, or take away points now count towards your rank on how many points you gain or lose"
ok, i get it. the books have been cooked.

you are missing my point tho' i think.

"this thread is dead. quit posting a number that is in no longer relevant towards the number that has been posted for over 3 years"

Guide games did not exist 3 years ago, therefore the anomaly they caused in the count did not exist. Guide games were introduced maybe six or eight months ago, therefore that is when the skew in the numbers that they cause would have begun. The correction that was introduced brought us back into line with the numbers as they have always been posted, except in the last six or eight months. Is this clearer?

[WILLIAMS5232]

9847

this number is no longer relevant. once the books were cooked there is no basis to go off of any longer. you might as well just say the number is 17,429. it would look better and still hold pretty much the same value of worthlessness.

I think I proved to you quite conclusively that they way they are counting now is, in fact, consistent with the way things were always counted. If you've forgotten already, read it again:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=152877&start=2100#p4614746

Not a cooking of the books at all, the change actually corrected the anomaly that guide games had introduced into the count.

oh here we go again.

all you proved to me is, "games that do not give, or take away points now count towards your rank on how many points you gain or lose"
ok, i get it. the books have been cooked.

you are missing my point tho' i think.

"this thread is dead. quit posting a number that is in no longer relevant towards the number that has been posted for over 3 years"

Guide games did not exist 3 years ago, therefore the anomaly they caused in the count did not exist. Guide games were introduced maybe six or eight months ago, therefore that is when the skew in the numbers that they cause would have begun. The correction that was introduced brought us back into line with the numbers as they have always been posted, except in the last six or eight months. Is this clearer?

yeah, it's clear. again i understand what point you are trying to make. i just think it's a stupid point and you don't seem to recognize what' i think. i don't see it as an anomaly. if the games should be counted on the scoreboard then they should risk points.

preseason games don't matter. nor do scrimmages. good job tho' making arguments for cooking the books.

[Army of GOD]

9896

[WILLIAMS5232]

9896 8653

fixed

[ConfederateSS]

-----Who said it has to die.. It still is a good place to keep Diogenes dream alive. A lot of posts in this thread have to do with crap.that takes place.Not just posting numbers. So lets give it some CPR..We can use it to do with everything to do with CC.. Leave babble-on to the old folk's home. Where soldiers don't die,they just fade away..and blah,blah all the day long. As for a S.W. ethics post somewhere else. I'm not perfect,but Diogenes can put away his lantern. He has found The ConfederateSS.BABY!. If you want to see how to uphold The Honor and Glory of The OLD SOUTH. Hold on to new members. Check out games...4043055..15133448..15248486..It's not about winning,it's Fun, Baby,FUN! ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). .P.S. In real life I'm not materialistic. I guess I found Diogenes secret to life. Without even trying.

[clangfield]

-----Who said it has to die.. It still is a good place to keep Diogenes dream alive. A lot of posts in this thread have to do with crap.that takes place.Not just posting numbers. So lets give it some CPR..We can use it to do with everything to do with CC.. Leave babble-on to the old folk's home. Where soldiers don't die,they just fade away..and blah,blah all the day long. As for a S.W. ethics post somewhere else. I'm not perfect,but Diogenes can put away his lantern. He has found The ConfederateSS.BABY!. If you want to see how to uphold The Honor and Glory of The OLD SOUTH. Hold on to new members. Check out games...4043055..15133448..15248486..It's not about winning,it's Fun, Baby,FUN! ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). .P.S. In real life I'm not materialistic. I guess I found Diogenes secret to life. Without even trying.

You know if you wrote in intelligible English, people might listen to you. I do not in all honesty think that a post like this will do anything to stem the decline.

[ConfederateSS]

----Well, I would. 1)It looks like some love the knew way to write/The ConfederateSS Way. . 2)With all the text Messaging and Ebonics. Who cares anymore.... About proper ENGLISH/English... 3)Most of the clients on Conquer Club. Are my USA American brothers and sisters.. We all know how well America does Education wise..World Wide..ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).