Mongol Empire Map [Quenched]

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sat May 26, 2007 12:05 pm

Looking good. I've got the laptop back so I can get on with the last few changes...

Also about to post the start of my next project in approximately 3...2...1...

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sat May 26, 2007 1:17 pm

Im looking at the big map...And the continent colours seem to be lighter and darker in some countries...Why is this?

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sat May 26, 2007 1:29 pm

hulmey wrote:Im looking at the big map...And the continent colours seem to be lighter and darker in some countries...Why is this?

Because they are all different shades. It has always been like that.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sat May 26, 2007 1:36 pm

Why do some of the numbers in the large map look funky? Also, I think the Uzbeg coordinate is off to the left a little on the large map.

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Sat May 26, 2007 1:45 pm

Why do some of the numbers in the large map look funky?

something happened in the compression of the screenshot i took. it doesnt matter really though.

Also, I think the Uzbeg coordinate is off to the left a little on the large map.

yeah it needs to be one to the right. ill fix it and repost. but im going to wait and see if there are any others off so i dont keep reposting all the code.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sat May 26, 2007 1:56 pm

OK... The bolder borders have been fixed and the outline of the bonus numbers also... Just waiting on any off-centre XML co-ords now and then I'll post the whole lot.

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Sat May 26, 2007 2:01 pm

this is the code that needs to replace uzbeg...(171 is the new number)

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<country>
<name>Uzbeg</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Astrakhan</border>
<border>White Horde</border>
<border>Yenisay</border>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Khorazm</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>171</smallx>
<smally>131</smally>
<largex>227</largex>
<largey>163</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sat May 26, 2007 2:21 pm

If you dont mind me asking...Why did you not use one colour for the continent...Why all the different shades of the same colour?

It's still great, just curious

ParadiceCity9 · Post by **ParadiceCity9** » Sat May 26, 2007 2:59 pm

just a question for clarification...himalayas connects to kabul, right?

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sat May 26, 2007 3:24 pm

The small map looks terrible with the Army circles looking squashed and spilling over the borders.

You still have some borders which are a little bolder in some places!!!

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Sat May 26, 2007 3:25 pm

just a question for clarification...himalayas connects to kabul, right?

yes.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sat May 26, 2007 5:54 pm

hulmey wrote:You still have some borders which are a little bolder in some places!!!

Well I'm not a mind reader so, although I don't think there IS any difference, you're gonna have to tell me where...

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sat May 26, 2007 6:37 pm

your not a mind reader - but you got eyes

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat May 26, 2007 7:40 pm

You'd be much more of a help, hulmey, if you actually helped...

--Andy

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun May 27, 2007 6:26 am

AndyDufresne wrote:You'd be much more of a help, hulmey, if you actually helped...

--Andy

didn't he gave you banana's?

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sun May 27, 2007 6:39 am

Hey Andy last time he had bolder borders i cicrled them on the map for him....I cant be doing that every time!!!

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sun May 27, 2007 8:25 am

hulmey wrote:Hey Andy last time he had bolder borders i cicrled them on the map for him....I cant be doing that every time!!!

Well if you don't want to show me where you think the changes need to be made I can't change them! I can't see any difference in boldness in the current map. I don't mind making the changes, but don't start getting childish about it!

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sun May 27, 2007 9:53 am

Hulmey posted in page 36 borders issue.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sun May 27, 2007 9:55 am

Guiscard

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hulmey wrote:
ok Guiscard i have circled for you in RED the borders that seem to be more Bold than other borders. There are others which are slightly different as well

OK there's no need to get uptight about it. I'll take a look and lighten them, although I can only really see a difference in Kara Yusuf. Thanks for pointing it out, though.

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Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sun May 27, 2007 10:44 am

qwert wrote:Hulmey posted in page 36 borders issue.

As I said, Qwert, I've dealt with those to the best of my ability. I've gone through each area, and also those suggested by Wisse, and faded them to the point where, if they were any lighter, they would make the surrounding areas look too bold.

I cannot see any further areas which are bolder than elsewhere, so I am asking for clarification. A simple line saying 'the border between this and that' would be fine, but I have dealt with his previous advise to the best of my ability.

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sun May 27, 2007 10:45 am

And another thing Guiscard you are the one who posts arrogantly towards me. Even in the being when the issue first cropped up. You couldnt see it!!!

But when Keyogi saw it and agreed with me you miracously re-gained your vision!!

If you want a nice map thats not going to be re-vamped in 2 months time then take a close hard look at the borders and im sure you will be able to see for yourself. As for me i couldnt care-less.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sun May 27, 2007 10:49 am

hulmey wrote:And another thing Guiscard you are the one who posts arrogantly towards me. Even in the being when the issue first cropped up. You couldnt see it!!!

But when Keyogi saw it and agreed with me you miracously re-gained your vision!!

If you want a nice map thats not going to be re-vamped in 2 months time then take a close hard look at the borders and im sure you will be able to see for yourself. As for me i couldnt care-less.

I think you'll find what I posted was:

I'll take a look and lighten them, although I can only really see a difference in Kara Yusuf. Thanks for pointing it out, though.

Sounds like I wasn't gonna make any changes at that point, doesn't it?

Anyway, if you don't want to let me know what you think needs changing then I'm afraid we'll just have to forget it because I really cannot see a difference at this point.

I'll post the final images and XML with the correction now.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sun May 27, 2007 11:10 am

edit: Jpeg compression is a bit bad on this one, but should be OK to check they're all centred.

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<map>
<title>The Mongol Empire</title>
<smallwidth>600</smallwidth>
<smallheight>314</smallheight>
<largewidth>800</largewidth>
<largeheight>418</largeheight>
<filetype>jpg</filetype>
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   <continent>
<name>Golden Horde</name>
<bonus>5</bonus>
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   <components>
<component>Moscow</component>
<component>Crimea</component>
<component>Bolgar</component>
<component>Astrakhan</component>
<component>Uzbeg</component>
<component>White Horde</component>
<component>Yenisei</component>
<component>Alans</component>
</components>
</continent>
-
   <continent>
<name>Ilkhanate</name>
<bonus>5</bonus>
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   <components>
<component>Lu-Mi Rum</component>
<component>Kara Yusuf</component>
<component>Baghdad</component>
<component>Khurasan</component>
<component>Khorazm</component>
<component>Kirman</component>
<component>Samarkand</component>
<component>Fars</component>
</components>
</continent>
-
   <continent>
<name>Chaghadi Khanate</name>
<bonus>4</bonus>
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   <components>
<component>Kara Khitai</component>
<component>Uigur</component>
<component>Kashgar</component>
<component>Kabul</component>
<component>Tian Shan</component>
</components>
</continent>
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   <continent>
<name>Great Khanate</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
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   <components>
<component>Naimans</component>
<component>Kurkis</component>
<component>Bargu</component>
<component>Karakorum</component>
<component>Onggt</component>
<component>Merkits</component>
</components>
</continent>
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   <continent>
<name>Yuan Khanate</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
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   <components>
<component>Himalayas</component>
<component>Idiqut</component>
<component>Inner Tibet</component>
<component>Yugor</component>
<component>Lhasa</component>
<component>Henan</component>
<component>Dali</component>
<component>Fujian</component>
</components>
</continent>
-
   <continent>
<name>Jin</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
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   <components>
<component>Kitan</component>
<component>Nuzhen</component>
<component>Korea</component>
<component>Keraits</component>
<component>Khanbaliq</component>
</components>
</continent>
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   <country>
<name>Moscow</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Crimea</border>
<border>Bolgar</border>
<border>Astrakhan</border>
<border>Alans</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>49</smallx>
<smally>79</smally>
<largex>62</largex>
<largey>97</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Crimea</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Moscow</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>77</smallx>
<smally>85</smally>
<largex>105</largex>
<largey>105</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Alans</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Astrakhan</border>
<border>Moscow</border>
<border>Lu-Mi Rum</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>112</smallx>
<smally>125</smally>
<largex>149</largex>
<largey>158</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Bolgar</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Moscow</border>
<border>Astrakhan</border>
<border>White Horde</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>177</smallx>
<smally>49</smally>
<largex>231</largex>
<largey>59</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Astrakhan</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Moscow</border>
<border>Alans</border>
<border>Bolgar</border>
<border>White Horde</border>
<border>Uzbeg</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>146</smallx>
<smally>93</smally>
<largex>193</largex>
<largey>115</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>White Horde</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Bolgar</border>
<border>Astrakhan</border>
<border>Uzbeg</border>
<border>Yenisei</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>218</smallx>
<smally>90</smally>
<largex>295</largex>
<largey>110</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Uzbeg</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Astrakhan</border>
<border>White Horde</border>
<border>Yenisei</border>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Khorazm</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>170</smallx>
<smally>131</smally>
<largex>228</largex>
<largey>163</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Yenisei</name>
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   <borders>
<border>White Horde</border>
<border>Uzbeg</border>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Naimans</border>
<border>Kurkis</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>227</smallx>
<smally>120</smally>
<largex>307</largex>
<largey>155</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Lu-Mi Rum</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Alans</border>
<border>Kara Yusuf</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>97</smallx>
<smally>157</smally>
<largex>134</largex>
<largey>205</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Kara Yusuf</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Lu-Mi Rum</border>
<border>Baghdad</border>
<border>Khurasan</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>114</smallx>
<smally>183</smally>
<largex>151</largex>
<largey>238</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Baghdad</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Kara Yusuf</border>
<border>Khurasan</border>
<border>Fars</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>111</smallx>
<smally>206</smally>
<largex>146</largex>
<largey>267</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Fars</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Baghdad</border>
<border>Khurasan</border>
<border>Kirman</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>123</smallx>
<smally>229</smally>
<largex>171</largex>
<largey>301</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Khurasan</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Kara Yusuf</border>
<border>Baghdad</border>
<border>Fars</border>
<border>Kirman</border>
<border>Samarkand</border>
<border>Khorazm</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>162</smallx>
<smally>208</smally>
<largex>220</largex>
<largey>267</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Kirman</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Fars</border>
<border>Khurasan</border>
<border>Samarkand</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>163</smallx>
<smally>247</smally>
<largex>234</largex>
<largey>320</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Khorazm</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Uzbeg</border>
<border>Khurasan</border>
<border>Samarkand</border>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Uigur</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>192</smallx>
<smally>190</smally>
<largex>220</largex>
<largey>212</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Samarkand</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Khorazm</border>
<border>Khurasan</border>
<border>Kirman</border>
<border>Lhasa</border>
<border>Uigur</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>203</smallx>
<smally>224</smally>
<largex>276</largex>
<largey>291</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Kara Khitai</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Uzbeg</border>
<border>Yenisei</border>
<border>Naimans</border>
<border>Tian Shan</border>
<border>Kashgar</border>
<border>Uigur</border>
<border>Khorazm</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>270</smallx>
<smally>149</smally>
<largex>370</largex>
<largey>192</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Uigur</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Kashgar</border>
<border>Kabul</border>
<border>Samarkand</border>
<border>Khorazm</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>233</smallx>
<smally>192</smally>
<largex>309</largex>
<largey>245</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Kashgar</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Tian Shan</border>
<border>Kabul</border>
<border>Uigur</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>259</smallx>
<smally>177</smally>
<largex>352</largex>
<largey>230</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Kabul</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Uigur</border>
<border>Kashgar</border>
<border>Tian Shan</border>
<border>Himalayas</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>265</smallx>
<smally>228</smally>
<largex>355</largex>
<largey>297</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Tian Shan</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Naimans</border>
<border>Kashgar</border>
<border>Kabul</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>299</smallx>
<smally>165</smally>
<largex>401</largex>
<largey>213</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Naimans</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Yenisei</border>
<border>Kurkis</border>
<border>Tian Shan</border>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Yugor</border>
<border>Karakorum</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>327</smallx>
<smally>153</smally>
<largex>440</largex>
<largey>197</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Kurkis</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Yenisei</border>
<border>Bargu</border>
<border>Karakorum</border>
<border>Naimans</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>329</smallx>
<smally>90</smally>
<largex>441</largex>
<largey>116</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Bargu</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Merkits</border>
<border>Karakorum</border>
<border>Kurkis</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>372</smallx>
<smally>93</smally>
<largex>499</largex>
<largey>114</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Karakorum</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Naimans</border>
<border>Kurkis</border>
<border>Bargu</border>
<border>Onggt</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>374</smallx>
<smally>136</smally>
<largex>502</largex>
<largey>178</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Onggt</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Karakorum</border>
<border>Henan</border>
<border>Khanbaliq</border>
<border>Keraits</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>422</smallx>
<smally>137</smally>
<largex>564</largex>
<largey>178</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Merkits</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Bargu</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>412</smallx>
<smally>79</smally>
<largex>554</largex>
<largey>99</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Kitan</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Nuzhen</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>518</smallx>
<smally>81</smally>
<largex>685</largex>
<largey>96</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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<name>Nuzhen</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Korea</border>
<border>Khanbaliq</border>
<border>Keraits</border>
<border>Kitan</border>
</borders>
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<smally>102</smally>
<largex>657</largex>
<largey>134</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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<name>Keraits</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Nuzhen</border>
<border>Khanbaliq</border>
<border>Onggt</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
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<smally>104</smally>
<largex>603</largex>
<largey>135</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Khanbaliq</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Nuzhen</border>
<border>Keraits</border>
<border>Onggt</border>
<border>Henan</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
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<smally>152</smally>
<largex>612</largex>
<largey>194</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Korea</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Nuzhen</border>
</borders>
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<smally>152</smally>
<largex>699</largex>
<largey>190</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Henan</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Khanbaliq</border>
<border>Onggt</border>
<border>Fujian</border>
<border>Dali</border>
<border>Yugor</border>
</borders>
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<smally>194</smally>
<largex>598</largex>
<largey>248</largey>
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</country>
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<name>Fujian</name>
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   <borders>
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<border>Dali</border>
</borders>
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<smally>209</smally>
<largex>649</largex>
<largey>273</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Dali</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Henan</border>
<border>Fujian</border>
<border>Yugor</border>
<border>Lhasa</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
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<smally>241</smally>
<largex>594</largex>
<largey>320</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Yugor</name>
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   <borders>
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<border>Dali</border>
<border>Lhasa</border>
<border>Inner Tibet</border>
<border>Idiqut</border>
<border>Naimans</border>
</borders>
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<largey>279</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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<name>Lhasa</name>
-
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<border>Yugor</border>
<border>Dali</border>
<border>Inner Tibet</border>
<border>Samarkand</border>
</borders>
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<smally>257</smally>
<largex>522</largex>
<largey>336</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Inner Tibet</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Yugor</border>
<border>Lhasa</border>
<border>Himalayas</border>
<border>Idiqut</border>
</borders>
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<smally>209</smally>
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<largey>303</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Idiqut</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Yugor</border>
<border>Inner Tibet</border>
<border>Himalayas</border>
</borders>
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<smally>230</smally>
<largex>417</largex>
<largey>299</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Himalayas</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Idiqut</border>
<border>Inner Tibet</border>
<border>Kabul</border>
</borders>
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hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sun May 27, 2007 12:23 pm

This is what you first wrote Guiscard mate. You dont need to play games with me as you wont win a prize. you clearly state you cant see the difference!!!So just grow up and if you dont want to fix them then dont.

And as for the borders, I know I'm a stickler for this in other maps but i quite honestly cannot see any difference in darkness. Perhaps it is the colour of the continent and unplayable land making it seem slightly different? There's no real reason for it to be any other darkness as all the borders were drawn with the same brush at the same time and have the same filters and effects applied. Anyone else have issues with the borders?

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sun May 27, 2007 12:42 pm

Be nice you two.

Hulmey, are you talking about the Great Khanate area? That's the only area I can see you maybe talking about, when you compare it to say Golden Horde. Perhaps part of west Yuan also. Is that what you are talking about?

Maybe a touch of fading, Guiscard, might do the trick.

--Andy