nietzsche wrote:sjnap wrote:nietzsche wrote:DiM wrote:why the hell would they give messi the trophy for the best player of the world cup? stupid stupid people.
No one agrees with that.
No one of the perhaps 30 analysts I've heard or the 10 regular viewers agree with that.
Why FIFA continues to f*ck up over and over? Recently FIFA said the penalty over Robben in the last minutes vs Mexico was correctly sanctioned, even though Robben has admitted he dived. And let's not forget Blatter's comment about CR7 saying he was a robot.
It was a correct penalty. And Robben never admitted he dived in that situation. He was clear with his words and said himself that was a 100 % penalty. I watched the interview with Robben live. And believe me i understand Dutch
. I try to explain you what he exactly told.There where 3 situations in the game where he was fauled in the penalty box. First time was in the last minute of the first half. That was actually already a penalty. What Robben also told. He spoke about a second situation in the second half. The penaly in the last minute was the third situation and a correct penalty in his eyes. Some countries now telling he admitted diving about that given penalty. Not true and not cool.
I was not aware of that. I read an article in Spanish and one in English saying he admitted diving. I will take your word on that.
But now, do you believe it was a penalty? Also answer please if you do follow football or are just a WC fan please. No disrespect, I just need to understand, because there's people who don't watch football regularly and they are easily influenced by the commentators. And others that watch football with the rules and unwritten rules of another sport in mind.
Just to be clear, I pointed out a couple of pages back in this same thread that I don't blame for the defeat of Mexico the fact that Robben dived:
nietzsche wrote:
Not blaming Robben nor the referee for the loss really. I'm aware of why we lost. But Robben dived twice before the penalty in the first half, and dived twice more before the awarded penalty in the second half. To me that's not fair play. He's all the time looking for a rival foot to hook into. The referees in this WC are all confused as to what they have to do, in any league of Europe a dive like those is a yellow card and, even if they forgive it, after he yells at them he'd get the yellow card.
Of course it pisses me off, but I repeat, that's not why Mexico lost.
As I said in a post here in the first half, Mexico was playing the way Holland wanted them to play: Mexico was running, Holland was doing everything to avoid running. Mexico had Salcido playing instead of Vazquez at the defensive midfield position and he wasn't up to the task, he is good, he knows where to be and all, but he's old. The other defensive midflielder had injured in before the WC and they didn't call another.
The third point is the first substitution, Aquino didn't show himself, he wasn't up to the task like the rest. The idea behind the substitution was not bad at all, but Aquino never did what Herrera told him to do.
I did not like the substitution from the moment I saw it coming. I was thinking more of moving Guardado to the defensive midfield position, Salcido out and Fabian in, that would've allowed us to keep the ball in the offensive, as Fabian has some skills.
What happened at the end was what always happens to Mexico in this round. You can describe how it happened, but that's not why it happened. I think it's more of a mindset.
I believe it was a penalty indeed. Some refs wouldnt give it as a penalty. I know the drill. As we all know often refs give a penalty as a sum of doubtfull situations. Also in this situation. It was the third time in the game. So he decided to give it.
And thrust me i know how you feel about it and feel your pain. Many times my team(s) i support had similar situations too in history. But thats football. As long as there are no camera refs or whatever doubtfull situations will not be handled correctly in our eyes. I still dont understand why FIFA, UEFA etc still dont have more modern technology. They say its the charm of the football. But to me its bullshit. Many times in history there been made big misstakes by refs which where decisive negative for a club or team. Which is ridiculous. But ok i will not speak about it because i think we all know it and think the same of it.
And yes i am a real football follower
. I know exactly what you mean. Because for me its a little bit strange that in every country suddenly with Worldcups or other big events there are many many more supporters all over the country. I also call them not real football fans.
I follow football since my birth
. I am totally crazy from it and to be honest i watched really to many games in my life.
I played also football from my sixth. Actually i was a pretty talented left footer
. Sadly i got a way to early bad injury so i needed to stop playing on a higher level wich i had big chance to. It chanched my life big time. Because it was my life. Since that last game i played i never returned to the playing yard anymore. I just couldnt anymore. To painfull. But i continued ofcourse going to big games in all Europe to follow my team(s). I witnessed many big players live in stadiums. As Zidane, Ronaldo, Pirlo etc etc.
Biggest game i saw i think was the EURO 2000 final in Rotterdam.
Also Messi when he played in Holland the youth WC. So yes i am a real football fan i think
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I mean, you are getting the chance to play in the match of your life and then you cannot remember anything from most of it... sources say that he can recall the victory ceremony though.
