Israel Plans to Restore Death Penalty for Everyone but Jews

[natty dread]

USA these days is pretty much spot on like the Empire in Star Wars.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

We've got any army of clones?

Sweet.

[DoomYoshi]

There was a time in CC's history when this would have been a worthwhile thread.

[AslanTheKing]

Americans training ISIL Army

[saxitoxin]

The Caliphate has announced, after conquering Saudi Arabia, it will destroy the Kaaba, the oldest building in the universe.

If Allah wills, we will kill those who worship stones in Mecca and destroy the Kaaba.

http://en.apa.az/news/213369

So I guess Mark Levin and ISIS have some common goals.

Meanwhile, the Caliphate stages an independence day parade in Mosul -

[warmonger1981]

I remember that crazy bastard Glenn Beck spouting madness of a Caliphate years ago. Are there known globalists involved in this mess? I mean big businesses cant pass up on these future money making countries. I hear Joe Bidens son is already on the board of directors of a major Ukrainian oil producer/refiner.

[DoomYoshi]

The poll options should list as -

How long until Baghdad falls?
April 9, 2003
July 14, 1958
April 1, 1941
March 10, 1917
1638
1623
1534
1401
February 10, 1258
1058
1055
945

[saxitoxin]

I remember that crazy bastard Glenn Beck spouting madness of a Caliphate years ago.

Glenn Beck in charge would have still seen the rise of a caliphate since he (1) supported the invasion of Iraq which directly led to its rise, and, (2) also and consistently spouts madness against Iran, Syria, and Hezbollah, the only three actors who are - and have always been - on the front lines of fighting the Salafist fundamentalists.

Think about that -- Hezbollah volunteers are today fighting the caliphate Glenn Beck fears and, in return, he tears them apart on radio from his air conditioned studio. Glenn Beck is every bit as hypocritical as Obama.

[warmonger1981]

Applause... The man is a total sell out. He would be a great politician. A little money and the fool flip flops. Trust me I'm not endorsing Glenn. Word on the streets is the USA trained some ISIS on a secret base in Lebanon. Hasn't the US funded all sides of these groups in the last 10 years so they can kill their enemies? So army we really just getting our shit back? AKA we fund them killing each other and go in for the victory?

[patches70]

Applause... The man is a total sell out. He would be a great politician. A little money and the fool flip flops. Trust me I'm not endorsing Glenn. Word on the streets is the USA trained some ISIS on a secret base in LebanonQatar. Hasn't the US funded all sides of these groups in the last 10 years so they can kill their enemies? So army we really just getting our shit back? AKA we fund them killing each other and go in for the victory?

ftfy

[AslanTheKing]

since usa and turkey are close allys ( since .....)
what is their common mayor goal in that area? ( after it has come clear that turkey somehow supported the isil ?
and is taking turkish embassy staff- around 50 people, maybe a false flag for common interests?
the other 30 turkish hostages have been set free from isil ( sidecomment)
turkish presidential elections are mid august 2014, coincidence?
i am getting confused with the mess down there

[AslanTheKing]

something tells me , this is not about iraq or syria,
this is all about constantinopel,
not babylon
the clock is ticking, tick tack, tick tack...
this makes sense why the european union put this carrot in front of the donkey
now the donkey is vulnerable, it cant catch the carrot until its exhausted or led the wrong way,
which it couldnt see cause it focused only on the carrot .....
wasnt there something in the media not long time ago,
that the hagia sophia ( a former church , now a museum)
shall become a mosque ?
on the other hand, the turks have been close allys of the germans in WWI,
and maybe secretly in WW II as well ?
( even they saved a lot of jews from the germans, turkey was a save shelter in WW II )
but since erdogan is in power i think the turkish and german emphaty cooled off,
the same with israel, turkish relations with israel was very friendly,
and erdogan destroyed that too, everything is weird down there,
what role does iran and russia play,
i dont get the picture

[Phatscotty]

I remember that crazy bastard Glenn Beck spouting madness of a Caliphate years ago.

Glenn Beck in charge would have still seen the rise of a caliphate since he (1) supported the invasion of Iraq which directly led to its rise, and, (2) also and consistently spouts madness against Iran, Syria, and Hezbollah, the only three actors who are - and have always been - on the front lines of fighting the Salafist fundamentalists.

Think about that -- Hezbollah volunteers are today fighting the caliphate Glenn Beck fears and, in return, he tears them apart on radio from his air conditioned studio. Glenn Beck is every bit as hypocritical as Obama.

Not that this means anything important or changes anything, and not that you don't have a good point about the new reality concerning Hezbollah etc, but war is a big one to be wrong about and then after shit is all F'd up just be like 'Oh, I was wrong btw, but too bad' but at least he comes out and says it which does take courage (yes even when it's as obvious as it is now) I haven't literally seen or heard anyone else admit they were wrong, and I know it's hard when the entire country is pissed off and wants payback and our leader is telling us this and that, but that's why it's so important not to follow blindly just because it's your guy in there or my guy in there leading us. There were quite a few Independents and Conservatives, specifically Tea Party types, who were right about opposing Iraq war as well, as I never have supported it and opposed it before it even started to the point of voting for Ralph Nader, because at that time Iraq war was so wrong to me and a main priority to get the hell out of there ASAP.

Glenn Beck "I was wrong, Liberals were right"


the full convo about the caliphate, just for context and to be clear. "Saying the Caliphate coming back is just the raving of a delusioal fool" 'Loony toons" "he needs medication" etc


and then, about what we were talking about a few pages back and how the currency situation is coming back around full circle to have the consequences of our policies fly in every Americans face with a vengeance and how our current system of printing money/juicing the debt exponentially does in fact perpetuate the wars around the world and certainly does not fix anything even in America, it only feels good for the short term and seems to work for a little while....

On June 10th, Sergey Glaziev, Putin's economy advisor published an article outlining the need to establish an international alliance of countries willing to get rid of the dollar in international trade and refrain from using dollars in their currency reserves. The ultimate goal would be to break the Washington's money printing machine that is feeding its military-industrial complex and giving the US ample possibilities to spread chaos across the globe, fueling the civil wars in Libya, Iraq, Syria and Ukraine. Glaziev's critics believe that such an alliance would be difficult to establish and that creating a non-dollar-based global financial system would be extremely challenging from a technical point of view. However, in her discussion with Vladimir Putin, the head of the Russian central bank unveiled an elegant technical solution for this problem and left a clear hint regarding the members of the anti-dollar alliance that is being created by the efforts of Moscow and Beijing:

“We've done a lot of work on the ruble-yuan swap deal in order to facilitate trade financing. I have a meeting next week in Beijing”, she said casually and then dropped the bomb: “We are discussing with China and our BRICS parters the establishment of a system of multilateral swaps that will allow to transfer resources to one or another country, if needed. A part of the currency reserves can be directed to [the new system].” (Prime news agency)

It seems that Kremlin chose the all-in-one approach for establishing its anti-dollar alliance. Currency swaps between the BRICS central banks will facilitate trade financing while completely bypassing the dollar. At the same time, the new system will also act as a de facto replacement of the IMF, because it will allow the members of the alliance to direct resources to finance the weaker countries. As an important bonus, derived from this “quasi-IMF” system, the BRICS will use a part (most likely the “dollar part”) of their currency reserves to support it, thus drastically reducing the amount of dollar-based instruments bought by some of the biggest foreign creditors of the US.

Skeptics will surely claim that a BRICS-based anti-dollar alliance will not manage to deprive the dollar of its global reserve currency status. Instead of arguing against this line of thought, it is easier to point out that Washington is doing its best to enlarge the ranks of the enemies of the dollar. Asked by the Russia 24 channel to comment on Nabiullina statements, Sergey Kostin, the president of the state-owned VTB bank and one of the staunchest supporters of anti-dollar policies, offered an interesting perspective on the situation in Europe:

“I think the work on ruble-yuan swap line will finalized in the nearest future and the way for ruble-yuan settlement will be open. Moreover, we are not the only ones with such initiatives. We know about the statements made by Mr. Noyer, chairman of the Bank of France. As a retaliation for what Americans have done to BNP Paribas, he opined that the trade with China must be done in yuan or euro.”

If the current trend continues, soon the dollar will be abandoned by most of the significant global economies and it will be kicked out of the global trade finance. Washington's bullying will make even former American allies choose the anti-dollar alliance instead of the existing dollar-based monetary system. The point of no return for the dollar may be much closer than it is generally thought. In fact, the greenback may have already past its point of no return on its way to irrelevance.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-0 ... r-alliance

[saxitoxin]

the full convo about the caliphate, just for context and to be clear. "Saying the Caliphate coming back is just the raving of a delusioal fool" 'Loony toons" "he needs medication" etc

funny video ... if I were one of Beck's followers this would be the final nail in the coffin of why I should run as far away from him as I could

Kindly read this 2011 rant by Beck:

One, a caliphate is a global government, and you know that's where we're headed. Everybody is headed now towards a global government. Well, so are the Islamic extremists, except theirs is Sharia law and infidels will be beheaded. The Shiite Muslims, the ones in Iran, believe in — and not all of them, not the people necessarily on the street — but the real radicals, the revolutionaries and the people at the very top are called Twelvers. They believe in the Twelfth Imam. And that will — that Twelfth Imam, when he returns, he will set up a global caliphate in ancient Babylon. This one should gravely concern you because he has all of the earmarks — in their own writings — of an antichrist, or the Antichrist. I don't know if he is or not. But there are those who will just claim, you know, he's the Twelfth Imam, et cetera et cetera. And the way to get there is global chaos.

Fast-forward to 2014, ISIS (who are not Twelvers, not Seveners, not even Shia at all, but Sunni) have just declared a caliphate and are being fought by Iran and Hezbollah ... the people Beck said were trying to recreate the caliphate! It's like saying, in 1937, "World War II is coming - France is going to invade Poland; fortunately, Germany will come to Poland's defense."

The warning of a Salafist drive for a recreated Islamic state was around for decades before Glenn Beck first went on air. The question on Beck, however, is why did he choose to reverse the identity of the bad guys in the version he presented to his listeners?* This is a tactic straight out of a hasbara playbook. Glenn Beck is a very loyal patriot ... it just happens the country he's loyal to isn't the USA.

* For that matter, why did Glenn Beck - in 2010 - issue an utterly crazy prophecy to his followers that Hezbollah would shortly attack the U.S. with car bombs (even though Hezbollah condemned 9/11 and took the lead in hunting Al Qaeda cells in Lebanon). And why didn't he explain why that prophecy didn't come true? Even Harold Camping offered explanations when his prophecy dates would pass without incident. The prophecy didn't come true but it did manage to deep-six U.S. attempts to normalize communications channels with Hezbollah. This benefitted the nation that Glenn Beck is loyal to while directly harming U.S. interests.

[saxitoxin]

In intentionally lying his listeners - as I've just shown - Glenn Beck demonstrates he is very much part of the historic bloc (the nexus of ideas that form the cornerstone of the dominant ideology, or what the historic bloc refers to as "common sense") right up there with Obama, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, and the rest. The ultimate solution to the equation he presents is identical to the solution to Obama's equation. They both proceed toward the same goal, just by different roads.

Gramsci explained the historic bloc is a fusion of often divergent political ideas; the different camps will be allowed to fight over dozens of ancillary differences but stay united to achieve a modest number of primary goals with an overwhelming majority. Different rationales will be presented as needed for each constituency. (Why do you think a6mzero disagrees with you about everything but one key thing on which you are almost uniformly united? It's because you are each members of a different constituency within the historic bloc.) In this way the historic bloc achieves power through mass democratic consent, which is more efficient and less expensive than bullets and batons.

[saxitoxin]

Kashi cereal is a GMO food manufactured by the Kellogg's food conglomerate on the afternoon shift of the same processing belt that churns out Frosted Flakes in the morning. But they slap "All Natural" on their boxes (or did until they got sued) and print their packaging in earth tones instead of base colors, and sell the cereal in co-ops instead of Wal-Mart.

Glenn Beck is loyal to a foreign nation, Scotty. His loyalty is not to the USA. He serves a foreign nation whose government and people think they are racially superior to you and will sacrifice you and all your neighbors without blinking to save just one of their own. He is manipulating you with a combination of (a) outright lies [as with my previous post], but also, (b) specific emotionally responsive imagery designed to activate your interest [like Kellogg's manipulates organic food nuts]. He needs you to empower your government to pursue an agenda that will favor the foreign state to which he's loyal. This agenda has thus far exacted a horrible death toll on your fellow citizens - most of whom have died extremely violent and painful deaths - and will very likely lead it into a final fireball of oblivion that will probably take out half the world with it.

And the people Beck spews his hate at and lies about - Iran, Syria (prior to 2011), Hezbollah* - these people have never claimed racial superiority to you, they have never machine-gunned U.S. Navy sailors to death in life rafts as they begged for their lives, they have never taken your tax dollars, and they are each engaged in a fight now that will protect Americans from being burned alive in exploding skyscrapers in 2022. Glenn Beck is a traitor of the highest caliber. Worse thank Tokyo Rose because he's more effective.

* among the numerous other lies he's used to whip up Americans into opposing his bosses enemies, in 2010 Glenn Beck issued a Harold Camping-esque prophecy that Hezbollah (which publicly condemned the 9/11 attack and took the lead in hunting Al Qaeda cells in Lebanon) was planning an imminent car bombing campaign against U.S. cities (did that happen? no - but Beck's false prophecy helped derail attempts to normalize contact with Hezbollah, helping his bosses agenda while simultaneously harming America)

[Phatscotty]

I've heard a couple people say that about him. I would be interested to see some more material on that if you would be so kind as to. There is no doubt in my mind he is probably one of the most staunchest supporters of Israel, and I am not on the same page as him when it comes to that.

[saxitoxin]

I've heard a couple people say that about him. I would be interested to see some more material on that if you would be so kind as to. There is no doubt in my mind he is probably one of the most staunchest supporters of Israel, and I am not on the same page as him when it comes to that.

He has been a liar when it comes to Syria, Iran, and Hezbollah. He has worked to create the impression that "Hezbollah & Iran = Al Qaeda," an idea which none of the Hezbollah soldiers who have given their lives fighting Al Qaeda would believe. That's also not gonna pass muster in Iran, which was supporting and arming the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan against the Taliban for at least 3 years before 9/11 at which time the U.S. took over that gig. He lied about Hezbollah trying to car bomb the U.S. in 2010 and he took a 30 year-old warning about Salafists creating a caliphate then swapped the Salafists out for Twelvers. His goal is for his millions of followers to create a mental link that says "enemies of Israel = enemies of USA."

All this should be offensive to any sane person, but I'm surprised patriotic Americans aren't particularly incensed by it ... Beck has placed the security of a foreign state (Israel) - a nation that, not that many years ago machine-gunned dying U.S. sailors in the water as they desperately begged for their lives - above the interests of his own country. But Beck has expertly wrapped his efforts to shove the USA in front of a train in red white and blue colors, in pictures of eagles, in pittance donations to the USO (really just a marketing spend since each dollar of donation is followed by ten dollars of advertising announcing he made the donation), and in liberally sprinkled quotes he's googled from Thomas Jefferson.

He didn't flip-flop positions on Iraq because he had a change of heart. In 2003 Israel's security was served by the downfall of the Iraqi Ba'ath Party. Now Israel's security is served by the ascendency of ISIS in Iraq. Israel's #1 goal, always, is to keep its neighbors in internal chaos because they'll be too weak to attack. The side effect of Israel's security policy is thousands of Americans being burned to a charred crisp every few years in 100 story tall steel and concrete ovens in NY. But, who cares? One hundred dead Americans is worth it if one of God's chosen people is saved. Remember, the Israelis don't think of you as a partner; you are racially inferior. They believe you are a resource God put on earth for their use, like a cow or a pig.

Article 10 of the Mormon 13 Articles of Faith says "we believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes." In order for Glenn Beck to ascend to heaven and gain immortality, Israel must survive. The U.S. doesn't need to survive. But Israel does.

[muy_thaiguy]

And there's that anti-semitism of saxi. Was wondering when it would show it's head.

[saxitoxin]

[warmonger1981]

Beck's faith plays a mojor roll in his philosophy and understanding of things. Just like anyone else would, he just believes in becoming a God in another life/planet. Still wondering how the globalists will slice up the middle east. Thomas Barnett wrote about the need to destabilize the middle east before a corporate world government.

[muy_thaiguy]

Oh come off it saxi, you have an odd boner for conspiracies against Israel and Jews in general. You've made as much abundently clear before.

And no, not Jewish in any way.

[saxitoxin]

Oh come off it saxi, you have an odd boner for conspiracies against Israel and Jews in general. You've made as much abundently clear before.

And no, not Jewish in any way.

Cool. That puts me in the company of Max Blumenthal and Seymour Hersch as being called an anti-Semite. If people named Blumenthal and Hersch are anti-Semites for criticizing Israel, then I guess I really don't care very much if I'm one, too. Ta.

[DoomYoshi]

They are double agents. New York Jews aren't real jews. Nor are "Jews". The only true Jews, according to Jewish law, are muslims.

[saxitoxin]

A young Palestinian child was pulled off the street by the Israelis two days ago. They doused him in gas and set him on fire. They took pity on him, though, and only let him burn a few minutes before putting him out of his misery with a brick to the skull. This is entertainment for Israelis. It is a high crime if they do it to other Israelis but is just animal cruelty if done to Palestinians, or Indians, or Americans, or French, or dogs, or goats.

Yesterday, the boy's cousin -a US citizen - was beaten up by the Israeli police. The cousin was the last person to see the boy alive and had important evidence to offer. As a patriotic American has Beck raced to the defense of his fratre citizen? No. He is issuing apologies for Israel, which is more important than the USA to him.

This child's death was not in vain. Each Israeli atrocity convinces an additional 100,000 people what a vile, barbaric entity Israel is and how no civilized people can live with it in their midst.