Lebensaar, Graceless, Guido74 [BG]

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11Joan11
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Lebensaar, Graceless, Guido74 [BG]

Post by 11Joan11 »

Hi,
See information below. Alchemistry and I 11joan11 would like to report the below named players. It is our understanding that to reveal information deliberately and ongoing even after being asked not to, is not ok in a fog game. Please inform us if this is correct and if so take steps against the named players. Thank you.
cheers Joan.

Accused:

[player]Lebensaar[/player]
[player]Graceless[/player]
[player]Guido74[/player]



The accused are suspected of:


Other: exposing all kinds of information in a fog game. See the chat pasted below.



Game number(s):

Game 14359098


Comments:
2014-04-29 20:03:15 - Lebensaar: yellow: how about a quick start truce, between the Baltic countries and Eastern Europe? Not counting Russia, or other areas?
2014-04-29 20:06:12 - guido74: ok
2014-04-29 20:06:21 - 11Joan11: hi al and good luck
2014-04-29 20:11:07 - guido74: as u might notice blue
2014-04-29 20:11:17 - guido74: im not staying in europe
2014-04-29 20:15:07 - Lebensaar: good luck elsewhere yellow!
2014-04-29 20:15:35 - guido74: thnx
2014-04-29 20:19:59 - guido74: sorry green
2014-04-29 20:20:05 - guido74: had to pass thru
2014-04-29 20:22:23 - 11Joan11: no worries guido. My game is not able to get started because of some lunatic attacking me consistently. ah well. so be my guest
2014-04-29 20:24:59 - Lebensaar: red: how do you feel about a truce in the North?
2014-04-29 20:25:56 - Alchemistery: you ask me for a truce after you attack me there lol
2014-04-29 20:26:18 - Lebensaar: it was a probing attack you lost 1 army!
2014-04-29 20:26:34 - Lebensaar: ;-)
2014-04-29 20:29:47 - Graceless_: green you want a truce?
2014-04-29 20:29:53 - Graceless_: i wont break you in italy if you back off me
2014-04-29 20:33:10 - 11Joan11: you just broke me pink. what kind of offer is that?
2014-04-29 20:33:53 - Lebensaar: red has Russia
2014-04-29 20:34:01 - Graceless_: you didn't respond
2014-04-29 20:34:16 - 11Joan11: saw it too late then.
2014-04-29 20:34:57 - Graceless_: didn't want to attaack but i took your silence as a no
2014-04-29 20:35:50 - 11Joan11: Im a yes if you still are
2014-04-29 20:42:04 - guido74: looks like ur done for blue
2014-04-29 20:43:08 - Lebensaar: yep
2014-04-29 20:43:27 - Lebensaar: I let Scandinavia get too strong while I was toying with green in Great Britain.
2014-04-29 20:43:41 - Lebensaar: green - that was fun though, eh?
2014-04-29 20:44:02 - guido74: never good to fight on too many fronts
2014-04-29 20:44:09 - Graceless_: red has russia now
2014-04-29 20:44:15 - Graceless_: it's over if he can hold
2014-04-29 20:44:35 - guido74: russia is only +4
2014-04-29 20:44:48 - Alchemistery: lol pink i dont
2014-04-29 20:44:50 - Graceless_: hes already getting +11
2014-04-29 20:44:54 - guido74: r we talking about the brown
2014-04-29 20:44:59 - guido74: transcontinental
2014-04-29 20:45:05 - Graceless_: he will get +16 next round
2014-04-29 20:45:09 - Graceless_: (game over)
2014-04-29 20:45:11 - Alchemistery: its fog
2014-04-29 20:45:26 - guido74: green is pretty strong too
2014-04-29 20:45:41 - Graceless_: green why the stack on italy?
2014-04-29 20:45:50 - guido74: how many troops does red have in russia?
2014-04-29 20:46:06 - Lebensaar: red has 17 on russia
2014-04-29 20:46:09 - Graceless_: he has a 24 stack
2014-04-29 20:46:16 - Graceless_: on turkey
2014-04-29 20:46:16 - 11Joan11: italy has more borders pink. also this is fog. I would appreciate it if you treat it that way
2014-04-29 20:46:27 - Alchemistery: if you tell how many troops i will send this log in complaint
2014-04-29 20:46:49 - Lebensaar: fog doesn't mean we can't spy - people can beliebve or not believe the information supplied
2014-04-29 20:46:52 - 11Joan11: fog is supposed to be fog. not tell taling on stacks etc.
2014-04-29 20:47:15 - Lebensaar: is that in the rules?
2014-04-29 20:47:33 - Alchemistery: ok i am sending this lopg to cc and repporting yellow and pink
2014-04-29 20:47:34 - Lebensaar: I could bluff and say yellow has 34 somewhere and nobody has to believe me
2014-04-29 20:47:39 - 11Joan11: also italy is not a stack. just a border protection pink.
2014-04-29 20:47:51 - 11Joan11: thanks red !
2014-04-29 20:47:56 - Lebensaar: is there somewhere in the rules that say we cannot
2014-04-29 20:47:56 - guido74: reporting yellow for what?
2014-04-29 20:48:03 - guido74: asking a question
2014-04-29 20:48:08 - Graceless_: just wanted to make sure you wrere not thinking about breaking truce thats all
2014-04-29 20:48:18 - 11Joan11: you're a nuisance blue and have been from the start. learn how to play the game
2014-04-29 20:48:29 - guido74: its not against rules to give info in fog
2014-04-29 20:48:37 - 11Joan11: when I agree to a truce. that is what I do. best trust on that
2014-04-29 20:48:57 - 11Joan11: its just not done yellow. unwritten rules
2014-04-29 20:48:59 - Graceless_: you never know in random speed games
2014-04-29 20:49:13 - 11Joan11: besides others could show up. as you see.
2014-04-29 20:49:16 - Graceless_: gg all
2014-04-29 20:49:20 - Lebensaar: "unwritten rules"
2014-04-29 20:49:22 - 11Joan11: pink
2014-04-29 20:50:09 - Graceless_: what?
2014-04-29 20:50:59 - 11Joan11: I wrote as you see. and that was meant for you so added your name pink.
2014-04-29 20:51:07 - Lebensaar: green I disagree totally. "Unwritten rules" is a cop out, and you can't complain if those unwritten rules change. I often will bluff or tell the truth to try and get people to attack another color... what's wrong with that, it is more realistic
2014-04-29 20:52:04 - 11Joan11: you will discover how this is treated blue when they get the report on this. I don't need to hear from you whats what.
2014-04-29 20:53:28 - Lebensaar: oh yes sir
2014-04-29 20:53:47 - guido74: well i dont think i violated rules by asking how many troops
2014-04-29 20:54:03 - Graceless_: blue why dont you just take off?
2014-04-29 20:54:06 - Lebensaar: you violated some set of "unwritten" rules apparently
2014-04-29 20:54:14 - Graceless_: you're out and you're jus stirring up trouble
2014-04-29 20:54:43 - Lebensaar: well I want to know where it states you cannot give (false or real) information in a fog game
2014-04-29 20:55:00 - 11Joan11: like I said. A nuisance.
2014-04-29 20:55:06 - Lebensaar: if it states that I will not do it. If it does not, this makes the game more interesting because you can bluff
2014-04-29 20:58:26 - Graceless_: big miss by red
2014-04-29 20:59:01 - Graceless_: only if green can break though
2014-04-29 21:01:29 - Graceless_: yellow, please kill me
2014-04-29 21:01:38 - Graceless_: /green
2014-04-29 21:04:20 - 11Joan11: fyi. am not reading the chat anymore. find it just distracting at this stage.
2014-04-29 21:04:57 - guido74: lol
2014-04-29 21:05:49 - guido74: pink i only see 2 of 3 terr
2014-04-29 21:05:56 - guido74: so stick it out
2014-04-29 21:10:57 - guido74: passing thru again green
2014-04-29 21:11:27 - guido74: i have to go pick up pizza soon
2014-04-29 21:11:34 - guido74: next turn will be my last
2014-04-29 21:11:41 - guido74: i will leave my pile in baltics
2014-04-29 21:12:07 - guido74: green and red u both seem pretty even
2014-04-29 21:12:18 - guido74: so should be a fair match for the 2 of u
2014-04-29 21:12:30 - guido74: oh and btw
2014-04-29 21:12:38 - guido74: red has 26 territories
2014-04-29 21:12:44 - guido74: green has 23
2014-04-29 21:12:56 - guido74: and pink has 3
2014-04-29 21:13:05 - guido74: im not gonna tell u how many i have
2014-04-29 21:13:47 - guido74: guess red didnt read
2014-04-29 21:13:52 - guido74: that was a waste red
2014-04-29 21:17:04 - Alchemistery: stop lying to everyone yellow leaving your men there and still attacking me
2014-04-29 21:17:18 - Alchemistery: you are never top be trusted
2014-04-29 21:18:44 - Alchemistery: you and pink ruined this game with your cheating
2014-04-29 21:19:24 - guido74: red
2014-04-29 21:19:34 - guido74: i was gonna just hit latvia b4 i went
2014-04-29 21:19:49 - guido74: but for some screwy reason u needed to blast my stack
2014-04-29 21:19:51 - Alchemistery: no one ever believes what you say
2014-04-29 21:19:58 - guido74: which was stupid considering im leaving
2014-04-29 21:20:02 - Alchemistery: did you send a report green?
2014-04-29 21:20:07 - guido74: speak for urself
2014-04-29 21:20:12 - guido74: later douche
2014-04-29 21:21:38 - Alchemistery: you attack all my countries to break the bonuses then you deadbeat
2014-04-29 21:31:43 - Alchemistery: they ruined this game gg
2014-04-29 21:33:10 - 11Joan11: gg all.
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ke_rassa
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Re: Lebensaar, Graceless, Guido74

Post by ke_rassa »

Its not against the rules. you can us the information to your advantage or straight up lie to people to get them to help ya.
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Re: Lebensaar, Graceless, Guido74

Post by IcePack »

Yep. Not against the rules. And you have the wrong graceless_ linked .
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Re: Lebensaar, Graceless, Guido74 [BG]

Post by BGtheBrain »

This is CLEARED

You are allowed to reveal whatever information you want inside the game chat, even in fog games.
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Re: Lebensaar, Graceless, Guido74 [BG]

Post by 11Joan11 »

ah well. too bad. what is the use of playing fog then ? seems pretty dumb to me. And like I said in the game. its like an unwritten rule amongst many players that you do not reveal what is hidden in fog games. I intend to continue to play this way and I hope a rule will be created to support this. Thank you for your response on this issue.
cheers. Joan.
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Re: Lebensaar, Graceless, Guido74 [BG]

Post by BGtheBrain »

Yeah. I would recommend putting any player that does it on your for list as well. That way you ensure you won't play with them again
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Re: Lebensaar, Graceless, Guido74 [BG]

Post by lykoz »

Alchemistry... Reporting a lot of players?

You break treaties... and are a fraud... Yet you have a lot to say about others?

Shame on you!
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Re: Lebensaar, Graceless, Guido74 [BG]

Post by Serbia »

This bump was like, totes necessary.

Bollocks.
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