If you plan on losing a Game why announce it???

Soloman · Post by **Soloman** » Tue May 22, 2007 7:43 am

it really burns me up when people decide for some petty reason to kamikazee not on a bold move to win but simply to make you both lose because they do not like what you said or did but what gets me more is the that they will have the gall to announce it in the chat. To me this ruins the game experience for all involved I have been the victim and benfactor in the past and each time I left negative feedback but there should be something else done I beleive especiallly in the situation where the person is stupid enough to announce it first what do you fair folks think???

alex_white101 · Post by **alex_white101** » Tue May 22, 2007 7:49 am

yup someones decided to that to me in a game thats happening right now

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=384286

does it deserve negative feedback? i think so as i would wish to warn players that if it dosent go his way he tries to ruin the game

Steel Panzer · Post by **Steel Panzer** » Tue May 22, 2007 7:53 am

the fact is that some people are stupid and like to admit it. thats just their way for saying: I got you... . My opinion:assholes :roll:

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:02 am

And what do you then do with people who suicide just because they want the game to end and don't care who they take with them?

The Weird One · Post by **The Weird One** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:27 am

For non-premium members who only have 4 games, it is more understandable.

I get why you're getting mad about this, but think about it from their point of view, if they only have four games and in one of them they're getting their ass kicked, they just want to get it over with so that they can get on with a game that they'd enjoy.

I'm not sure which side of this argument I'm on, but I'm just trying to see both sides of the story

podge · Post by **podge** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:38 am

being understandable still doesn't make it acceptable. You ruin the game for the rest of the players to satisfy your own need.

My motto is: If I wouldn't like it done to me then I won't do it to anybody else

Black Warior · Post by **Black Warior** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:11 am

Well planing to lose the game don't you lose points and of corse get a bad feedback?

Kahless · Post by **Kahless** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:16 am

I suspect some of these people aren't deliberately trying to lose, they just don't want to admit you beat them fair and square

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:40 am

Suiciding is worth a negative feedback...Also worth the ignore list in my book.

Whatever the reason, it is NOT the way to go. If you are almost losing, FIGHT and try to get out of the bad situation. Don't ruin it for someone else aswell...

I am not premium, yet I never suicide, even when I am about to lose. It wouldn't be fun if it was that way everytime.

Soloman · Post by **Soloman** » Tue May 22, 2007 12:42 pm

The Weird One wrote:For non-premium members who only have 4 games, it is more understandable.

I get why you're getting mad about this, but think about it from their point of view, if they only have four games and in one of them they're getting their ass kicked, they just want to get it over with so that they can get on with a game that they'd enjoy.

I'm not sure which side of this argument I'm on, but I'm just trying to see both sides of the story

the most recent bout of people is in a team game and the irony is both of these people who from research have not played together before have both said itn chat they will may lose but they will make sure they make me and my partner who is 11 lose because he said to the that they wasted an attack and left themselves open to the stronger player on the board they have pledged to make sure all 4 of us lose because he said that, but I guess my point is this is way to prevelant and this being the 1st time I have seen a whole team make this decision but on singles I would say one of these kamikaze angry over a move or comment comes out once every 10 or 15 games which is way to often for my taste but just my thought

coolpsp · Post by **coolpsp** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:20 pm

i sometimes go on kamikazi move 7 vs 10 i won and had 4 left

I always if i know im going to loose i try and help the loser a bit

Steel Panzer · Post by **Steel Panzer** » Tue May 22, 2007 2:23 pm

me personally try to fight until the end, no matter if its 3 vs 7 i'll try it if it could keep me in the game a round longer.

Spritzking · Post by **Spritzking** » Tue May 22, 2007 2:35 pm

well i mostly suicide if its an one on one. and i am far behind.....

though threathing some one with a suicide on him, of he does this or that can be effective, but you will have to execute if someone does not believe you..

The Weird One · Post by **The Weird One** » Tue May 22, 2007 4:20 pm

Steel Panzer wrote:me personally try to fight until the end, no matter if its 3 vs 7 i'll try it if it could keep me in the game a round longer.

Same here, I was just trying to explain a side of the argument that seemed to be overlooked. I in no way think that that justifies suiciding, but I felt that that had to be covered in this thread :!:

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Tue May 22, 2007 4:26 pm

Wow Alex, Negative feedbacks are used exactly for what happens to you in your game, this guy is clearly a whining ass, and should get a negative feedback for being a lousy sport.

wacicha · Post by **wacicha** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:08 pm

I have never given a negative feedback and have been playing over a year, also, there is no one on my ignore list.

I go into a game knowing there is a chance someone WILL do something I do not like. I then play to the best of my ability.

I am fortunite though, Most of the time the players that join my games are some of the most respected on the site

jaybebo · Post by **jaybebo** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:04 am

If I am within a turn or two of being eliminated, I will focus my efforts on the most powerful player on the board, as a final last hoorah before I go down in a blaze of glory. However, for the most part, I do not focus on one player...regardless of how many times he may attack me...even if it is every turn.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Thu May 24, 2007 12:39 am

I can think of one situation that is acceptable and I'm in it now with myself being the "guilty" party. I am a free player with only four slots and joined a tourney(with paid premium as a prize no less) and there is one game which is a 40+ round stalemate. This slot is my least recently started game and the others do not look like being finished any sooner. I need this slot for the tourney game. I stated in the chat that I would end this game in the upcoming round in an honorable manner. That is actually trying for the win(unlikely) and if I couldn't win I would suicide but equally on the two other players. Before anyone says that I should have taken the length of some games into consideration before joining a tournament, This was supposed to be an rt game which I joined several days ago. Me suiciding would hurt me the most as I've been able to hold onto two continents for several rounds and been repeatedly able to break the other two's continents sporadically without them breaking mine. It's not enough to win it soon though and I'm convinced that if I stuck it out for the 20 more rounds I expect it to go then I would win. Anyone's comments on this? Is this justified or not?

Game number is 437326 but it might be over before anyone sees it.

JMody · Post by **JMody** » Thu May 24, 2007 1:19 am

The way i see it is go for the win. But if your not winning your rolls don't hold back. Get everything down to 1 guy if you want. It isn't really suicide. Well i guess it is but your technically going for the win so it don't really matter. I would do it. It could be a good tactic. If they are only able to get 3 armies each next turn and you leave a barrier of their guys between their large army and you then you can definitely wipe them out next turn for sure.

podge · Post by **podge** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:41 am

kwanton wrote:I can think of one situation that is acceptable and I'm in it now with myself being the "guilty" party. I am a free player with only four slots and joined a tourney(with paid premium as a prize no less) and there is one game which is a 40+ round stalemate. This slot is my least recently started game and the others do not look like being finished any sooner. I need this slot for the tourney game. I stated in the chat that I would end this game in the upcoming round in an honorable manner. That is actually trying for the win(unlikely) and if I couldn't win I would suicide but equally on the two other players. Before anyone says that I should have taken the length of some games into consideration before joining a tournament, This was supposed to be an rt game which I joined several days ago. Me suiciding would hurt me the most as I've been able to hold onto two continents for several rounds and been repeatedly able to break the other two's continents sporadically without them breaking mine. It's not enough to win it soon though and I'm convinced that if I stuck it out for the 20 more rounds I expect it to go then I would win. Anyone's comments on this? Is this justified or not?

Game number is 437326 but it might be over before anyone sees it.

Although I'm a prem I can see where your coming from kwanton, the worst thing for a non-prem is to play in an rt that goes standard. Having said that if you are going to suicide then you must do it equal between the players that are left so your action does not give an unfair advantage to one of the other players. Also let the other players know that that is your intention and ask them to take you out quickly with a truce between the remaining players until you are eliminated.

That way there should be no cause for complaints or neg feedback.