Re: 1v1: Promontory Summit [10.3.14] BETA

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:29 pm

V04_Prom_Summit.xml: (15.89 KiB) Downloaded 934 times

This is V16....gameplay and gfx changes.

1. notice the names on gold spikes have changed to CP Gold Spike and UP Gold Spike, and Up Gold Spike position has moved.
2. Spikes can assault each other notation has moved.

Gameplay changes.
1. CP Prom Summit one-way assaults CP Gold Spike, and from there assaults all spikes
2. UP Prom Summit one-way assaults UP Gold Spike, and from there assuatls all spikes

Objective: it is thought that this will make in easier to hold and maintain all spikes from within the spikes group in many games particularly chained games

New .jpg images for upload

[bigimg]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282/cairnswk/Promontory_Point/Promontory_Summit_V16L-1.jpg~original[/bigimg]

koontz1973 · Post by **koontz1973** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:54 am

After 2 months now, can we get this into play on the main site. Then we can really see all the bugs and how it plays on all settings.

Gilligan · Post by **Gilligan** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:20 pm

i'm just curious what the status is here.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:28 pm

koontz1973 wrote:After 2 months now, can we get this into play on the main site. Then we can really see all the bugs and how it plays on all settings.

Gilligan wrote:i'm just curious what the status is here.

You guys need to ask the boss.

Gilligan · Post by **Gilligan** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:27 pm

cairnswk wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:After 2 months now, can we get this into play on the main site. Then we can really see all the bugs and how it plays on all settings.

Gilligan wrote:i'm just curious what the status is here.

You guys need to ask the boss.

The final files are the ones on this page?

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:37 pm

Gilligan wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:After 2 months now, can we get this into play on the main site. Then we can really see all the bugs and how it plays on all settings.

Gilligan wrote:i'm just curious what the status is here.

You guys need to ask the boss.

The final files are the ones on this page?

The final ones were sent to bigWham ages ago when we were playing and testing the map

agentcom · Post by **agentcom** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:44 am

My impression is that BW doesn't care for the balance of this map on certain settings and is holding things up. Since this is one of the only current maps that will have settings restrictions (in this case players=2), it sounded to me like he wanted to be sure it's done right.

Personally, I disagree with him and think the best way to get any balance issues worked out is to get it into Beta, but I understand where he's coming from.

Don't take my word for it though. This was a somewhat informal discussion/debate/disagreement that we had a couple months ago at this point. But I think you gotta talk to the boss to get this moving forward again.

iAmCaffeine · Post by **iAmCaffeine** » Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:58 am

How did this get a graphics stamp?

Gilligan · Post by **Gilligan** » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:31 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:How did this get a graphics stamp?

Great idea on how to make it better!

iAmCaffeine · Post by **iAmCaffeine** » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:36 am

Gilligan wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:How did this get a graphics stamp?

Great idea on how to make it better!

I don't see the point in going into depth on how to improve the graphics if it's already passed that stage.

Butters1919 · Post by **Butters1919** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:56 pm

more to the point, when is this actually going to go "beta"?

Gilligan · Post by **Gilligan** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:55 pm

Beta - Quenching

---The development period has concluded for the Promontory Summit Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Beta Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for BETA Play. After an extended period of time in BETA and once all quirks and issues have been resolved, the map will be put into Full Play (barring any Admins or Foundry Foreman vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!

While the map is in BETA Play, there are a couple of administrative tasks that are required of the mapmaker(s) in addition to the initial gameplay testing:
1. Please ensure that the first post of the thread contains all the necessary information to help future visitors to the development thread; it's particularly important to ensure the most recent images are there, along with any helpful guides (such as gameplay quirks/nuances or the location/size of any starting neutrals etc.)
2. It is the responsibility of the mapmaker(s) to ensure that they respond to further feedback in a timely and constructive manner.
3. Write a "creative" map description and send it to the Foundry Foreman via PM. You're encouraged to post it into the first post of the thread as well; the description will be used to populate the maps database.

Gilligan

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:32 pm

Thanks Gilligan

degaston · Post by **degaston** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:13 am

Is "Townsfolk rally against Morman control" a typo?

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:13 pm

degaston wrote:Is "Townsfolk rally against Morman control" a typo?

No it is not a typo, but a creative slant on what actually occurred.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinne,_Utah

patrick1234321 · Post by **patrick1234321** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:12 pm

I enjoy the map and the gameplay. Thank You for making this!

codierose · Post by **codierose** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:39 pm

patrick1234321 wrote:I enjoy the map and the gameplay. Thank You for making this!

me 2 bit of a neut basher but loving it so far =D>

agentcom · Post by **agentcom** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:01 pm

cairnswk wrote:
degaston wrote:Is "Townsfolk rally against Morman control" a typo?

No it is not a typo, but a creative slant on what actually occurred.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinne,_Utah

Unless I'm missing something meta here, I think he's talking about "Morman" v "Mormon"

kizkiz · Post by **kizkiz** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:47 pm

Played a few now.
The one really confusing thing was working out the victory condition at first.
At the moment it says, "Who will win the race to drive the gold and silver spikes". Given that there are two of each, including one that is both gold and silver, this is a little confusing.
Perhaps, "Who will win the race to drive all the gold and silver spikes" would be clearer?

I do like the bridge bombard though. Makes it slightly less of a race and adds one small element of strategy with stacking

biscuit boy · Post by **biscuit boy** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:28 pm

Playing this game with Nuc, trench and chain settings can setup some really good interesting battles at the end. Like the bridge element. If you don't get off to a good start though it is rough to come back on.

Vorpal Blade · Post by **Vorpal Blade** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:13 pm

Game 14140775 Green was able to get spoils by bombarding an empty green river.

That does not seem like correct behavior.

Gilligan · Post by **Gilligan** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:45 pm

Vorpal Blade wrote:Game 14140775 Green was able to get spoils by bombarding an empty green river.

That does not seem like correct behavior.

It is. As long as you successfully bombard or attack something, you get a spoil...regardless of map.

degaston · Post by **degaston** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:51 pm

agentcom wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
degaston wrote:Is "Townsfolk rally against Morman control" a typo?

No it is not a typo, but a creative slant on what actually occurred.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinne,_Utah

Unless I'm missing something meta here, I think he's talking about "Morman" v "Mormon"

Correct. The link provided by cairnswk mentions Mormons, but does not contain the word "Morman"

Dondersteen · Post by **Dondersteen** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:52 pm

I played this where the reos were set to chained and you wind up with lots of orphaned troops strung out behind you. It's unlikely to be won in "a couple turns" unless you have reos set to unltd. Also, I held the gold spike but the game didn't end because I hadn't conquered Brigham Young. I can see where you have to hold all stations along the line, but since the resources are on spur lines, they should be optional for victory. Particularly given that taking them is not really that advantageous unless reos are set to unltd: with all those stacks strung out behind you and only one reo per turn, they become quite useless. (Unless your oppo has made it to your side of the board - a) which should rarely happen and b) is highly unlikely to be a recoverable position, unless you roll all 6s.)

I like the concept of the map - and it reminds me of the Corb Lund song

Maybe put a note on it somewhere that you recommend playing with reos = unltd and/or make resources optional to hold, MHO.

With a bit of dice luck (which does seem to be a determining factor over strategy) a guy can play lots of these and rank up very quickly... :mrgreen:

Nice work

Dondersteen · Post by **Dondersteen** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:56 pm

here is a pic of my game...note all the orphans Game 14144153