Greater China [Quenched] (thanks Widowmakers)

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat May 19, 2007 3:58 am

update:

changed mountain
(i decided to keep the sea border as it is)
still need that xml feature,

i think everything exept that single xml issue is done

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat May 19, 2007 1:15 pm

Regarding the XML, is it the neutral start you are speaking of?

Also, I gave it some thought...and I think this map would maybe benefit from a more stylized graphic for mountains. The current ones really just don't look like they go with the map (And the wall is close also). I'd consider something like Fight for Alexander's Empire, or Australia, maybe Middle-Earth. Something stylized and not abstract. The abstract mountain I think hinders the look of the map a little, since you've got this specific feel on the gameboard...hm.

--Andy

edbeard · Post by **edbeard** » Sat May 19, 2007 2:49 pm

I thought you were going to get rid of a territory? Or, add one. You still have 29, so I'm confused

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat May 19, 2007 3:11 pm

edbeard wrote:I thought you were going to get rid of a territory? Or, add one. You still have 29, so I'm confused

no read what i said, i need a xml feature "Starting Neutral Territories shuffle"
(Starting Neutral Territories is already been accepted but mine isn't looked at)
so that 1 country of jinan is neutral at the start so you have 28 normal and 1 neutral in jinan

Andy:
yes that was the xml issue i ment

and i will look to the mountains again

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat May 19, 2007 4:56 pm

if i test my xml i get those errors:

<ranged attacks> - Specification mandate value for attribute attacks

<ranged attack>Eastern Xizang</ranged attack> - Specification mandate value for attribute attack

<ranged attack>Eastern Xizang</ranged attack> - expected '>'

</ranged attacks> - expected '>'

is there anything wrong? i putted the rang att so:

<country>
<name>\\\</name>
<borders>
<border>Xinjiang</border>
<border>Western Xizang</border>
</borders>
<ranged attacks>
<ranged attack>Eastern Xizang</ranged attack>
</ranged attacks>
<coordinates>
<smallx>29</smallx>
<smally>263</smally>
<largex>44</largex>
<largey>345</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sat May 19, 2007 5:29 pm

it appears it's not yet implemented, or the xml tester is not updated.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat May 19, 2007 5:47 pm

DiM wrote:it appears it's not yet implemented, or the xml tester is not updated.

well he does accept the new bonus tag...

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun May 20, 2007 4:50 am

update:

xml

*changed mountains they do look now made from paper (or something

)

still w8ing for the xml feature, then ready for takeoff

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sun May 20, 2007 7:32 am

Wisse wrote:update:
*changed mountains they do look now made from paper (or something )

or something :wink:

to be honest they look like a long piece of poo. th other ones weren't better but at least they did not give this impression. why don't you try drawing them?

just make some simple empty triangles. 5 shapes is enough. then add some slope lines of the same colour inside the triangle. after that fill the blank inside with some wobbly hatched texture. brownish or greenish. at the top ad some pixels of grey and white to resemble the snow. now you have 5 different small mountains. just take them and put them on them map to form a long mountain chain. don't worry if some of them intersect it makes the chain look better. now it's time for some effects. add shades and bevel if you need and any other effect that might suit you and you've got yourself a nice mountain border.

right now you're just drawing a line and adding texture and bevel to it.

hope it helps.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun May 20, 2007 7:57 am

DiM wrote:
Wisse wrote:update:
*changed mountains they do look now made from paper (or something )

or something
to be honest they look like a long piece of poo. th other ones weren't better but at least they did not give this impression. why don't you try drawing them?

just make some simple empty triangles. 5 shapes is enough. then add some slope lines of the same colour inside the triangle. after that fill the blank inside with some wobbly hatched texture. brownish or greenish. at the top ad some pixels of grey and white to resemble the snow. now you have 5 different small mountains. just take them and put them on them map to form a long mountain chain. don't worry if some of them intersect it makes the chain look better. now it's time for some effects. add shades and bevel if you need and any other effect that might suit you and you've got yourself a nice mountain border.

right now you're just drawing a line and adding texture and bevel to it.

hope it helps.

i am very bad at drawing

but i will try

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon May 21, 2007 10:55 am

update:

xml

*changed mountains, they look more like it now and its in the style of the map:

*changed place of arrow above mountains

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon May 21, 2007 12:39 pm

bumpo

P.S
i don't know how mibi creat his maps so easely but it toke me half an hour to make the mountain

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:40 pm

no feedback? anyone??

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:57 pm

Wisse wrote:i don't know how mibi creat his maps so easely but it toke me half an hour to make the mountain

mibi is a proffesional graphic designer and i think that says all.
he's probably been doing it for several years at a professional level.

by comparisson we are mere beginners. for example before i came here i never used anything other than ms paint.

also he probably has other means of developing his maps. like a drawing tablet. boy i could really use one of those. it makes the job a whole lot easier.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:01 pm

DiM wrote:
Wisse wrote:i don't know how mibi creat his maps so easely but it toke me half an hour to make the mountain

mibi is a proffesional graphic designer and i think that says all.
he's probably been doing it for several years at a professional level.

by comparisson we are mere beginners. for example before i came here i never used anything other than ms paint.

also he probably has other means of developing his maps. like a drawing tablet. boy i could really use one of those. it makes the job a whole lot easier.

now i think of it, my father must have some anywhere, we didn't use it because the comp then always got laggy

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:03 pm

Wisse wrote:
DiM wrote:
Wisse wrote:i don't know how mibi creat his maps so easely but it toke me half an hour to make the mountain

mibi is a proffesional graphic designer and i think that says all.
he's probably been doing it for several years at a professional level.

by comparisson we are mere beginners. for example before i came here i never used anything other than ms paint.

also he probably has other means of developing his maps. like a drawing tablet. boy i could really use one of those. it makes the job a whole lot easier.

now i think of it, my father must have some anywhere, we didn't use it because the comp then always got laggy

lucky you. i recommend testing that tablet eight away. you'll see drawing becomes a lot easier with a stylus than with the mouse.

Gilligan · Post by **Gilligan** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:06 pm

Wisse wrote:no feedback? anyone??

What is the black hole going to be called?
What is the point of attacking E. Xizang but can't conquer it?

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:11 pm

Gilligan wrote:
Wisse wrote:no feedback? anyone??

What is the black hole going to be called?
What is the point of attacking E. Xizang but can't conquer it?

you mean the \\\ country? its called \\\

its a ranged attack, to weaken the attack from e.xizang so that its difficult to get in there
the \\\ country is a defensive country in china

Gilligan · Post by **Gilligan** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:26 pm

Wisse wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
Wisse wrote:no feedback? anyone??

What is the black hole going to be called?
What is the point of attacking E. Xizang but can't conquer it?

you mean the \\\ country? its called \\\
its a ranged attack, to weaken the attack from e.xizang so that its difficult to get in there
the \\\ country is a defensive country in china

Oh that makes sense now.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:06 pm

Gilligan wrote:
Wisse wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
Wisse wrote:no feedback? anyone??

What is the black hole going to be called?
What is the point of attacking E. Xizang but can't conquer it?

you mean the \\\ country? its called \\\
its a ranged attack, to weaken the attack from e.xizang so that its difficult to get in there
the \\\ country is a defensive country in china

Oh that makes sense now.

the \\\ has a real name but i think its to long

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue May 22, 2007 7:38 am

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Tue May 22, 2007 8:41 am

Wisse wrote:bump

no bump. get that tablet and draw some nice mountains.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:03 am

DiM wrote:
Wisse wrote:bump

no bump. get that tablet and draw some nice mountains.

lol with the tablet i don't get better mountains

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:10 am

Wisse wrote:
DiM wrote:
Wisse wrote:bump

no bump. get that tablet and draw some nice mountains.

lol with the tablet i don't get better mountains

don't tell me you can draw better with your mouse than with a stylus on a tablet. :shock:

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:21 am

DiM wrote:
Wisse wrote:
DiM wrote:
Wisse wrote:bump

no bump. get that tablet and draw some nice mountains.

lol with the tablet i don't get better mountains

don't tell me you can draw better with your mouse than with a stylus on a tablet.

no, but this is done with filters