Mongol Empire Map [Quenched]

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Wed May 09, 2007 5:58 pm

your border lines are darker in some places than other places!!! For example your himalyas bottom stands out and is very dark compared to other border lines...Whats the reason for this?

SolidWolf34 · Post by **SolidWolf34** » Wed May 09, 2007 6:05 pm

well it takes time to build a map.. but with the right people , right help, and right support, and the right tools and the right palce with the right time and the right corner, you should be fiun.

snufkin · Post by **snufkin** » Wed May 09, 2007 6:12 pm

Do you have different opacity on the name shadows for the large and small maps?

The small map looks brighter around the names making it harder to read than if you had just scaled down the large map.

I suspect most people play the small maps so isn´t that version more important than the large.. ?

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Wed May 09, 2007 6:27 pm

snufkin wrote:Do you have different opacity on the name shadows for the large and small maps?

The small map looks brighter around the names making it harder to read than if you had just scaled down the large map.

I suspect most people play the small maps so isn´t that version more important than the large.. ?

I do, but that was a change implemented at Andy's request to brighten the names on the small map. It isn't opacity, it is less shadow as the shadow on the small map made them look muddy and un-readable. Does anyone else think this is a problem? If you go back to page 20ish (maybe) there should be a version more shadow so you can see the problem.

And as for the borders, I know I'm a stickler for this in other maps but i quite honestly cannot see any difference in darkness. Perhaps it is the colour of the continent and unplayable land making it seem slightly different? There's no real reason for it to be any other darkness as all the borders were drawn with the same brush at the same time and have the same filters and effects applied. Anyone else have issues with the borders?

*** Damn, one thing I have just noticed is the outline of the bonus number circles has gone massive. I'll deal with that next update, but the positions of the army circles won't change if johloh wants to tweak the XML (if not I'll have a go but I'm not making promises

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Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Wed May 09, 2007 6:27 pm

SolidWolf34 wrote:well it takes time to build a map.. but with the right people , right help, and right support, and the right tools and the right palce with the right time and the right corner, you should be fiun.

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Thu May 10, 2007 12:29 pm

ok Guiscard i have circled for you in RED the borders that seem to be more Bold than other borders. There are others which are slightly different as well

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Thu May 10, 2007 1:45 pm

hulmey wrote:ok Guiscard i have circled for you in RED the borders that seem to be more Bold than other borders. There are others which are slightly different as well

i zoomed in and find 2 of the same darkness:
between uzbeg and yenisei
between uigur and kashgar

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:33 pm

hulmey wrote:ok Guiscard i have circled for you in RED the borders that seem to be more Bold than other borders. There are others which are slightly different as well

OK there's no need to get uptight about it. I'll take a look and lighten them, although I can only really see a difference in Kara Yusuf. Thanks for pointing it out, though.

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:59 pm

no ones getting up tight Guiscard. The foundry process is working :wink:

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:07 pm

guiscard, i can do the new code...ill get it done in the next few days.

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:09 pm

The Kara Yusuf/Baghdad/Khurasan area is obvious, but I'm not picking up the other ones... except maybe Kirman. Crimea seems to have a little bit missing out of the border a few pixels over from the C. I don't see any problems with the borders in the two Khanates though.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:14 pm

KEYOGI wrote:The Kara Yusuf/Baghdad/Khurasan area is obvious, but I'm not picking up the other ones... except maybe Kirman. Crimea seems to have a little bit missing out of the border a few pixels over from the C. I don't see any problems with the borders in the two Khanates though.

I think it may have been a missed bit of blur over there as I changed those borders later on... Crimea may be because of the shadow from the label, but I'll thicken that little bit anyway. I think the Himalayas one is a little uneven, but like you I can't see anything different with the khanate borders. I'll try, but if it looks too light I'm not gonna make the changes there. Will sort out the others in the next update though.

Whilst we're at it, has anyone else got any comments before I make some more tweaks?

Joloh, thanks again for the XML. No rush whatsoever (and congrats on getting SF up for play!)

for dummies · Post by **for dummies** » Sat May 12, 2007 4:35 pm

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat May 12, 2007 4:39 pm

for dummies wrote:bump

no need for bumping someone else topic without reason...

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sat May 12, 2007 5:09 pm

Just wanted to give it a couple days to see if people had any other comments before I do an update - I'd rather deal with a few things in one update than each individually in loads of little updates.

snufkin · Post by **snufkin** » Sat May 12, 2007 7:41 pm

Guiscard wrote:
snufkin wrote:Do you have different opacity on the name shadows for the large and small maps?

It isn't opacity, it is less shadow as the shadow on the small map made them look muddy and un-readable. Does anyone else think this is a problem?

Just realised that the large map is small enough.. I´ll just pretend it´s the small one.. problem gone as far as I´m concerned.

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Sun May 13, 2007 5:08 am

your desert look worst than my borders man just make a border around it

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sun May 13, 2007 12:05 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:your desert look worst than my borders man just make a border around it

Lone just drop it please. Don't bring problems from other threads into this one. The desert issue has been resolved already.

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Sun May 13, 2007 2:43 pm

what you desert look shit put border around it is all i said

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sun May 13, 2007 3:11 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:what you desert look shit put border around it is all i said

And I said the issue has been resolved, so please drop it. We can't all have what we want and in this case I went with the majority. I've explained it already in more detailed posts, so you can either read them and stop whining or else PM Andy and make a complaint. Your choice. I just don't want my thread clogged up with the same argumentative crap we have elsewhere.

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sun May 13, 2007 3:44 pm

he has a point though, the desert does look bad

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sun May 13, 2007 3:46 pm

Guiscard wrote:And I said the issue has been resolved, so please drop it. We can't all have what we want and in this case I went with the majority. I've explained it already in more detailed posts, so you can either read them and stop whining or else PM Andy and make a complaint. Your choice. I just don't want my thread clogged up with the same argumentative crap we have elsewhere.

Same to you as well Hulmey.

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sun May 13, 2007 3:48 pm

hehehe - just lpayin around with Guiscard x

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Mon May 14, 2007 8:28 am

Are we just waiting for the XML?

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Mon May 14, 2007 10:10 am

The1exile wrote:Are we just waiting for the XML?

Yeh (but no rush Johloh

) - And also I've got a minor update to make to fix the borders of the bonus numbers in the small map.

Just wanted to give people time to comment on any other little niggles before I do another update. But its looking good so far...

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