Themeless twisted mafia Day 2. No deaths, 13/14 alive.

[spiesr]

okay by my count neb has 4 votes now, and i would have to agree that neb should now better than to band wagon like that, so lets here a claim neb, and to further that cause,unvote, vote neb

So you are bandwagoning Nebuchadnezer to force a claim, because he bandwagoned DoomYoshi to force a claim? Or is there some other logic to your vote that I don't see?

[edocsil]

Lol...once again I've gotten myself into a pickle.

I'm a vanilla townie. Check the matrix game. I did the same stupid thing. I guess I haven't figured out how to play as vt...or maybe this is best for town as you can lynch me, not lose much, get information and protect your power roles. Either way, I'm good with it.

.....

Here is how a VT goes. Blatantly softclaim power role. Get killed. Mission accomplished, you just saved the real cop. You never want to be forced int a situation like this, because you are not an asset to the town except for your vote. There is no way to prove you are town, baring a investigation which is a waste, or a track, which is slightly less wasteful.

[DoomYoshi]

On the other hand, its not a bad D1 lynch.

[gregwolf121]

okay by my count neb has 4 votes now, and i would have to agree that neb should now better than to band wagon like that, so lets here a claim neb, and to further that cause,unvote, vote neb

So you are bandwagoning Nebuchadnezer to force a claim, because he bandwagoned DoomYoshi to force a claim? Or is there some other logic to your vote that I don't see?

more or less, but the difference being that doom just had a bunch of joke votes, and from how i read it neb joined on because it had the most votes, which in my book is a scum move, so he seemed the most scummy to me at the time, granted it wasn't much to go on but you really can't expect more day 1,

[edocsil]

Hang, not hang, or talk more?

Lets not waste time.

[Iron Butterfly]

One concern. The player shape.

He has not posted on the CC sight since March 27th and has not even confirmed for the game so you may wish to replace him.

[Metsfanmax]

One concern. The player shape.

He has not posted on the CC sight since March 27th and has not even confirmed for the game so you may wish to replace him.

Shape has actually been guested, so replacement would be a wise option.

more or less, but the difference being that doom just had a bunch of joke votes, and from how i read it neb joined on because it had the most votes, which in my book is a scum move, so he seemed the most scummy to me at the time, granted it wasn't much to go on but you really can't expect more day 1,

The same could be said about anyone who jumped on the wagon against neb. Any one of these people could be scum, hitching on to what most people are claiming is a slip. I won't scream too loudly if we lynch neb, since D1 lynches aren't often better than what we've got now. But I'm also not going to rush a lynch just because this is all we have got.

[superkeener]

I see no reason why a neb lynch shouldn't happen. With that being said, I don't think it is necessarily our best option. And before you ask me who is a better option, at this point, I have no idea.

[jonty125]

My vote remains on Neb, WCS is we lynch a VT.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Lynch me. I'll take shape's place.

[DoomYoshi]

vote neb

[superkeener]

Lynch me. I'll take shape's place.

you got it,

UNVOTE
VOTE NEB

that was the hammer

[freezie]

One concern. The player shape.

He has not posted on the CC sight since March 27th and has not even confirmed for the game so you may wish to replace him.

I will get on that right away.

Lynch me. I'll take shape's place.

As much as I'd like you to do, I cannot allow anyone to re-play the game.


Vote count coming, but I think everyone knows how it's gonna end.

[freezie]

VOTE COUNT

superkeener(1): Safari
Doomyoshi(3): doomyoshi, Mets, Neb
Iron Butterfly(1): Spiesr
Spiers(1): Iron butterfly
-2 Nebuchadnezer(5): Edocsil, Jonty, Thechuck, aage, Gregwolf, Superkeener

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

People should read the rules more.

[DoomYoshi]

unovte
vote neb

[Nebuchadnezer]

Well then...we should then take a look at those eager to be rid of me...knowing that i cannot come back certainly makes me want to stay alive a little longer...while mafia were sure to think they had an easy lynch. Who was it that thought he hammered me? Superkeener?

Now doomyoshi?

[aage]

VOTE COUNT

superkeener(1): Safari
Doomyoshi(3): doomyoshi, Mets, Neb
Iron Butterfly(1): Spiesr
Spiers(1): Iron butterfly
-2 Nebuchadnezer(5): Edocsil, Jonty, Thechuck, aage, Gregwolf, Superkeener

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

People should read the rules more.

Is Neb actually at -3 or is there an invisible vote/is he some variant of a hated towny?

[DoomYoshi]

Well then...we should then take a look at those eager to be rid of me...knowing that i cannot come back certainly makes me want to stay alive a little longer...while mafia were sure to think they had an easy lynch. Who was it that thought he hammered me? Superkeener?

Now doomyoshi?

I am replacing my vote which wasn't counted. My intentions before/after have unchanged. It's unfortunate, but there is no reset button in this game. Why would I vote you knowing you can come back and then unvote knowing that you can't?

If I vote you, and think that you can come back, that means that I know you are a Vanilla Townie. Why would I vote for somebody who I know to be a townie?

[spiesr]

VOTE COUNT

superkeener(1): Safari
Doomyoshi(3): doomyoshi, Mets, Neb
Iron Butterfly(1): Spiesr
Spiers(1): Iron butterfly
-2 Nebuchadnezer(5): Edocsil, Jonty, Thechuck, aage, Gregwolf, Superkeener

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

People should read the rules more.

Is Neb actually at -3 or is there an invisible vote/is he some variant of a hated towny?

That 5 should actually be a 6.

Anyhow I have mixed feelings on lynching Neb right now. Does him having thought he could replace before (or at least claiming to) mean that he is really a Vanilla Townie? Does freezie telling him he can't mean he isn't?

[DoomYoshi]

I think the second option refers to the fact that there is a twist in this game, and that players may know more than they think they do.

The first I am willing to entertain, but not if the alternative is No Lynch.

[Iron Butterfly]

I see...I forgot to unvote my joke vote when I voted Neb.

Seeing how the game has taken an interesting Day one development I will hold off on my vote.

[rishaed]

Since it seems like Jak's mafia isn't going to start soon, and I should be able to handle 2 games I can be your replacement.

[aage]

Well then...we should then take a look at those eager to be rid of me...knowing that i cannot come back certainly makes me want to stay alive a little longer...while mafia were sure to think they had an easy lynch. Who was it that thought he hammered me? Superkeener?

Now doomyoshi?

I am replacing my vote which wasn't counted. My intentions before/after have unchanged. It's unfortunate, but there is no reset button in this game. Why would I vote you knowing you can come back and then unvote knowing that you can't?

If I vote you, and think that you can come back, that means that I know you are a Vanilla Townie. Why would I vote for somebody who I know to be a townie?

The revive-thing was bullshit from the start. We're lynching the role, not the player. I couldn't care less how Neb feels about it. It actually paints Neb more scum, since it's an irrational argument.

[aage]

Sorry about the doublepost...

Is Neb actually at -3 or is there an invisible vote/is he some variant of a hated towny?

That 5 should actually be a 6.

Anyhow I have mixed feelings on lynching Neb right now. Does him having thought he could replace before (or at least claiming to) mean that he is really a Vanilla Townie? Does freezie telling him he can't mean he isn't?

What Freezie says on the matter shouldn't influence our suspicion towards Neb. The mod doesn't want to replace with dead players, fine. He is right to do so, I believe I argued this before recently in a different game.

You are correct on the count and I should double check my quotes. Neb is at L-1 now, I would not criticize a hammer.

[safariguy5]

I don't think Neb trying to Meta a replacement helps his defense much. Therefore, I will unvote vote neb