Netherlands [Quenched]

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:46 am

KEYOGI wrote:I won't warn you again qwert. Get your facts straight before you post and take any grudges with me to the Flame Wars forum.

Back on topic... I think the blurring has worked well in some places, but not in others.

thats because i needed to blur the background around it too, because he has a 1px border

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:06 am

Wisse wrote:thats because i needed to blur the background around it too, because he has a 1px border

I'm not sure I understand. If there's a 1px border I don't see why the background would need blurring.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:13 am

KEYOGI wrote:
Wisse wrote:thats because i needed to blur the background around it too, because he has a 1px border

I'm not sure I understand. If there's a 1px border I don't see why the background would need blurring.

because if i would only blur the line you would not see a line anymore, it would be nearly vaneshed

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:24 am

Wisse wrote:because if i would only blur the line you would not see a line anymore, it would be nearly vaneshed

How did you blur it? I tend to use Gaussian Blur with a value of 0.1 or 0.2 if needed. Perhaps it would work better with a drop shadow. You could try it with a distance of 0, size of 1-3 and a spread of up to 15.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:59 am

KEYOGI wrote:
Wisse wrote:because if i would only blur the line you would not see a line anymore, it would be nearly vaneshed

How did you blur it? I tend to use Gaussian Blur with a value of 0.1 or 0.2 if needed. Perhaps it would work better with a drop shadow. You could try it with a distance of 0, size of 1-3 and a spread of up to 15.

i tried everything but it doesn't work with a 1 px border
i did blur it with the blur tool and put it on "use all layers"
every other thing i tried failed

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:30 am

Ok, i will watch these topic, to see what will hepend next.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:07 am

KEYOGI wrote:
Wisse wrote:because if i would only blur the line you would not see a line anymore, it would be nearly vaneshed

How did you blur it? I tend to use Gaussian Blur with a value of 0.1 or 0.2 if needed. Perhaps it would work better with a drop shadow. You could try it with a distance of 0, size of 1-3 and a spread of up to 15.

The problem is more with the thickness. There are several layers of border so in some places (the north bank of the river for example) it is a pretty solid 3 px wide and inothers it looks more like 1 px, especially on vertical sections (next to the Biesboch army circle for example).

What it really needs is for someone to just get rid of the borders (which leaves white ones from the layers underneath) and then go over the whole map with a simple 2px round black brush, then add a little bit of graussian blur to taste.

I just don't really have the time to go over the whole map at the moment.

It is more thickness than blur to be honest. It just needs to be consistent, which is what the map is lacking currently.

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:55 am

if its a 1px border you can add a 1px stroke to the outside or center, then merge that layer onto a blank new layer which will flatten the stroke, then you can blur it.

but really, i think this is all a bit ridiculous as i see nothing wrong with the current borders.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:02 am

mibi
but really, i think this is all a bit ridiculous as i see nothing wrong with the current borders.

Finaly, someone too agree with me.

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:28 am

i cannot actually see a problem with the borders but if it is there it must be fixed as i will not complain if it is done

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:31 am

wisse ur borders look way more worst than mine in m terms of unity look

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:33 am

i marginally prefer wisse's lines but i dont like the parts where they seem too transparent

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:43 am

Lone.prophet wrote:wisse ur borders look way more worst than mine in m terms of unity look

i guess you have to read first! :roll:

its because you have a 1px border...

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:27 pm

ohh so and?

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:39 pm

No-one else's borders matter really. I've been having a play around and I'm having a lot of trouble. The emboss effect you have on the land makes some of the borders too thick, and the river border and texture seems to be a single layer.

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:45 pm

you can make the land mass seperate and oeverlapping so the emboss wont create dark spaces which make the borders look thick

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:46 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:you can make the land mass seperate and oeverlapping so the emboss wont create dark spaces which make the borders look thick

Or you could. Its your map. I said I'd take a look, and I've given you my advice... I didn't say I'd finish it for you.

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Tue May 01, 2007 6:50 am

i really think there wasnt a problem ur just being gay as is the rest of the whining people

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:32 am

he has just helped you by giving you advice now dont abuse him, this is the way of the foundry and it works please just go withit that is a lot easier

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Tue May 01, 2007 10:17 am

this hole foundry is a joke with on the top some dictators

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Tue May 01, 2007 10:24 am

well, there is always the BeNeLux map.

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Tue May 01, 2007 10:38 am

Lone.prophet wrote:this hole foundry is a joke with on the top some dictators

who is forcing you to continue the map if you dont want to do it, this is not your site and the person that owns the site has asked certain other people to ensure that the maps on the website are top notch, nobody is forcing you to change stuff that belongs to you. If you like the map as it is print it off and play it with your mates. If you want it on the site then abide by the procedurs

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue May 01, 2007 11:57 am

These not right, first you tell that borders is problem and when Lone say"ok i give you open hands to you solve these problem", now you tell "I dont mine its yours map", and you these call help.

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Tue May 01, 2007 12:06 pm

uh oh.... another case of cartographer burnout...

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Tue May 01, 2007 2:04 pm

qwert wrote:These not right, first you tell that borders is problem and when Lone say"ok i give you open hands to you solve these problem", now you tell "I dont mine its yours map", and you these call help.

qwert please dont take this personally but i really think you should not get involved unless you have something constructive to say. We know that neither of you like the system but if you feel that strongly about it then stop making maps because it just causes arguments. Otherwise please just take some advice. I dont see much wrong with the borders but if there was a poll i would vote for them to be changed 'to make your best better' for want of a less cheesy motto