More Romney Video

[The Bison King]

I know that the 47% comment is what most people focus on but let's not over look this statement that I find much more disturbing.

In this comment Romney claims that if the Latino voting block becomes as committed to the Democratic party as the African American's then the Republicans are in trouble as a party as America is as a nation.

What I find fundamentally wrong about this is that he assumes that what's best for the Republican party is what's best for the nation as a whole, when in reality if the Republican party had Black and Hispanic interests at heart they would have their vote. It's putting the cart before the horse. If he wants black and Hispanic votes he needs to represent their interest. The fact that he doesn't find his own interest intersecting with those communities basically implies that he finds those communities themselves to be what troubles the nation as a whole. He want's to be the president of the united states but for himself not for us. He has no interest in representing the interests of the African American and Latino communities as well as the 47% of Americans who didn't pay income taxes (A percentage of which I am a member)

I'm sorry I haven't been an active member of these forums for a while. So it's kinda bullshit that I post a thread like this after a long period of silence. But it's bullshit that a man like this can run for president, and it's even more bullshit that people are still going to vote for him.

[Night Strike]

And those interests are?

[The Bison King]

And those interests are?

He was sitting in a room full of millionaires and billions. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.

[Night Strike]

No, what are the interests of African Americans and Hispanics?

[BigBallinStalin]

I know that the 47% comment is what most people focus on but let's not over look this statement that I find much more disturbing.

In this comment Romney claims that if the Latino voting block becomes as committed to the Democratic party as the African American's then the Republicans are in trouble as a party as America is as a nation.

What I find fundamentally wrong about this is that he assumes that what's best for the Republican party is what's best for the nation as a whole, when in reality if the Republican party had Black and Hispanic interests at heart they would have their vote. It's putting the cart before the horse. If he wants black and Hispanic votes he needs to represent their interest. The fact that he doesn't find his own interest intersecting with those communities basically implies that he finds those communities themselves to be what troubles the nation as a whole. He want's to be the president of the united states but for himself not for us. He has no interest in representing the interests of the African American and Latino communities as well as the 47% of Americans who didn't pay income taxes (A percentage of which I am a member)

I'm sorry I haven't been an active member of these forums for a while. So it's kinda bullshit that I post a thread like this after a long period of silence. But it's bullshit that a man like this can run for president, and it's even more bullshit that people are still going to vote for him.

The president has allowed the Federal Reserve to go unscathed as it has completely eroded your means of safely investing in your own future. The Fed has led ourselves into a precarious situation of potentially rampant inflation.

Oh, but yes, let's scream like little children at something the presidential candidate said while shielding ourselves from what the president has been doing.

[Night Strike]

The president has allowed the Federal Reserve to go unscathed as it has completely eroded your means of safely investing in your own future. The Fed has led ourselves into a precarious situation of potentially rampant inflation.

Don't forget that Bernanke has already lied under oath because he told Congress he would not monetize the debt. He should be held in contempt and impeached.

[The Bison King]

No, what are the interests of African Americans and Hispanics?

You know the usual stuff. Health care, affordable education, not having family members deported.

[john9blue]

What I find fundamentally wrong about this is that he assumes that what's best for the Republican party is what's best for the nation as a whole, when in reality if the Republican party had Black and Hispanic interests at heart they would have their vote. It's putting the cart before the horse. If he wants black and Hispanic votes he needs to represent their interest. The fact that he doesn't find his own interest intersecting with those communities basically implies that he finds those communities themselves to be what troubles the nation as a whole. He want's to be the president of the united states but for himself not for us. He has no interest in representing the interests of the African American and Latino communities as well as the 47% of Americans who didn't pay income taxes (A percentage of which I am a member)

you have it backwards.

blacks and latinos vote for obama for personal gain. obama represents their interests at the expense of everyone else. then you have the problem of black racism (voting for obama because of his skin color).

anyone who has "latino interests" or "black interests" at heart, trumping the interests of all, is probably a racist.

[rdsrds2120]

What I find fundamentally wrong about this is that he assumes that what's best for the Republican party is what's best for the nation as a whole, when in reality if the Republican party had Black and Hispanic interests at heart they would have their vote. It's putting the cart before the horse. If he wants black and Hispanic votes he needs to represent their interest. The fact that he doesn't find his own interest intersecting with those communities basically implies that he finds those communities themselves to be what troubles the nation as a whole. He want's to be the president of the united states but for himself not for us. He has no interest in representing the interests of the African American and Latino communities as well as the 47% of Americans who didn't pay income taxes (A percentage of which I am a member)

you have it backwards.

blacks and latinos vote for obama for personal gain. obama represents their interests at the expense of everyone else. then you have the problem of black racism (voting for obama because of his skin color).

anyone who has "latino interests" or "black interests" at heart, trumping the interests of all, is probably a racist.

Racism...



BMO

[Phatscotty]

What I find fundamentally wrong about this is that he assumes that what's best for the Republican party is what's best for the nation as a whole, when in reality if the Republican party had Black and Hispanic interests at heart they would have their vote. It's putting the cart before the horse. If he wants black and Hispanic votes he needs to represent their interest. The fact that he doesn't find his own interest intersecting with those communities basically implies that he finds those communities themselves to be what troubles the nation as a whole. He want's to be the president of the united states but for himself not for us. He has no interest in representing the interests of the African American and Latino communities as well as the 47% of Americans who didn't pay income taxes (A percentage of which I am a member)

you have it backwards.

blacks and latinos vote for obama for personal gain. obama represents their interests at the expense of everyone else. then you have the problem of black racism (voting for obama because of his skin color).

anyone who has "latino interests" or "black interests" at heart, trumping the interests of all, is probably a racist.

Racism...



BMO

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

....Not because of skin color, but because of the content of character

My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

Who is asking "What can the president do for ME" and who is asking "What can I do for my country"?

[john9blue]

Racism...



BMO

it's like symmetry and woodruff, but with pictures! cute.

[Woodruff]

Racism...



BMO

it's like symmetry and woodruff, but with pictures! cute.

Ignorance must be a heavy burden for you.

[john9blue]

Ignorance must be a heavy burden for you.

dude, at least i try to make a coherent point when i flame.

this is just "UR DUMB LOL"

you can do better. not much better, but still better.

[Night Strike]

No, what are the interests of African Americans and Hispanics?

You know the usual stuff. Health care, affordable education, not having family members deported.

Health care is not a right nor is it the federal government's job to be involved in it. Education is already completely paid for by the taxpayers up through 12th grade with public colleges being highly subsidized by the taxpayers (without even mentioning all the student loans and grants already available). If a person is here illegally, then they're already breaking the law. Claiming they don't want a family member deported is like saying a person doesn't want their family member to go to jail after committing a felony; it's ridiculous.

[Woodruff]

Ignorance must be a heavy burden for you.

dude, at least i try to make a coherent point when i flame.

this is just "UR DUMB LOL"

you can do better. not much better, but still better.

To help you out with your ignorance..."ignorance" means "lack of knowledge", not "lack of intelligence".
I refer to your ignorance because you seem to be happily and blithely ignoring the actual definition
of racism, and I don't want to unnecessarily label you with something that might make you appear
more...intentional about it.

My point was quite coherent to those of us who aren't quite so ignorant of the various words in use
here.

[john9blue]

Ignorance must be a heavy burden for you.

dude, at least i try to make a coherent point when i flame.

this is just "UR DUMB LOL"

you can do better. not much better, but still better.

To help you out with your ignorance..."ignorance" means "lack of knowledge", not "lack of intelligence".
I refer to your ignorance because you seem to be happily and blithely ignoring the actual definition
of racism, and I don't want to unnecessarily label you with something that might make you appear
more...intentional about it.

My point was quite coherent to those of us who aren't quite so ignorant of the various words in use
here.

i know what ignorance means. i'm saying that you made a pointless post and it betrays your lack of intelligence.

[Woodruff]

Ignorance must be a heavy burden for you.

dude, at least i try to make a coherent point when i flame.

this is just "UR DUMB LOL"

you can do better. not much better, but still better.

To help you out with your ignorance..."ignorance" means "lack of knowledge", not "lack of intelligence".
I refer to your ignorance because you seem to be happily and blithely ignoring the actual definition
of racism, and I don't want to unnecessarily label you with something that might make you appear
more...intentional about it.

My point was quite coherent to those of us who aren't quite so ignorant of the various words in use
here.

i know what ignorance means.

If you knew what "ignorance" means, as you claim, then you wouldn't have taken my earlier statement to be any form of "U R DUMB LOL". Therefore, I am afraid your attempt to beg out of ignorance is failing spectacularly.

i'm saying that you made a pointless post and it betrays your lack of intelligence.

My post was simply highlighting your ignorance, which seems to shine through ever brighter each time you attempt to justify your statements. Perhaps your statement was much more intentional than I originally gave you credit for...that would be unfortunate.

[john9blue]

i know what ignorance means.

If you knew what "ignorance" means, as you claim, then you wouldn't have taken my earlier statement to be any form of "U R DUMB LOL". Therefore, I am afraid your attempt to beg out of ignorance is failing spectacularly.

but that was what you said.

"john is dumb"

that was the entire point of your post

i suppose i'll commend you for taking the forum name change so seriously...

i'm saying that you made a pointless post and it betrays your lack of intelligence.

My post was simply highlighting your ignorance, which seems to shine through ever brighter each time you attempt to justify your statements. Perhaps your statement was much more intentional than I originally gave you credit for...that would be unfortunate.

i don't think it was "highlighting my ignorance"

i think you just got upset because you're realizing that everyone's tired of your "reading comprehension" shtick. symmetry does it better than you do, honestly, and even he looks like an idiot when he does it.

[rdsrds2120]

It's not a matter of reading comprehension, but racism refers to a certain set of values. Voting for Obama because he's black doesn't fall into racism for the same reason that February being Black History Month isn't racist.

It's not even nitpicking, it's whole concept evasion.

BMO

[Dibbun]

It's not a matter of reading comprehension, but racism refers to a certain set of values. Voting for Obama because he's black doesn't fall into racism for the same reason that February being Black History Month isn't racist.

It's not even nitpicking, it's whole concept evasion.

BMO

I'm voting Romney because he's white, and support White History Month. You agree I'm not racist, deal with it.

[Phatscotty]

It's not a matter of reading comprehension, but racism refers to a certain set of values. Voting for Obama because he's black doesn't fall into racism for the same reason that February being Black History Month isn't racist.

But voting for Obama because he is black is the opposite of what Martin Luther King taught. That is making decision based solely on skin color.

btw, charges of racism only work against people who are not racist, because if you charge a racist with racism, they will say "yeah.....and???"

Food for thought

[BigBallinStalin]

It's not a matter of reading comprehension, but racism refers to a certain set of values. Voting for Obama because he's black doesn't fall into racism for the same reason that February being Black History Month isn't racist.

It's not even nitpicking, it's whole concept evasion.

BMO

I'm voting Romney because he's white, and support White History Month. You agree I'm not racist, deal with it.

Yeah, that does sound racist.

[john9blue]

btw, charges of racism only work against people who are not racist, because if you charge a racist with racism, they will say "yeah.....and???"

Food for thought

this isn't true most of the time.

the human mind can distort the meaning of words and actions in order to justify itself. we see this in idiotic definition debates here in OT, but it happens in the real world as well.

i think most racists believe that they aren't racist because that word carries a strong negative connotation. since they think their beliefs are correct, and "racism" implies "wrong", then they think their beliefs cannot possibly be racist (even though, in truth, there are many true beliefs that are racist)

[Woodruff]

i know what ignorance means.

If you knew what "ignorance" means, as you claim, then you wouldn't have taken my earlier statement to be any form of "U R DUMB LOL". Therefore, I am afraid your attempt to beg out of ignorance is failing spectacularly.

but that was what you said.

"john is dumb"

that was the entire point of your post

No, that was not a reference of my post at all, never my "the entire point" of it. I quite specifically stated that "Ignorance must be a heavy burden for you."...you know...that word "ignorance. Now I've spent several posts attempting to get you to understand precisely the point I was making, but you're managing to continue to willfully wallow in your ignorance.

i'm saying that you made a pointless post and it betrays your lack of intelligence.

My post was simply highlighting your ignorance, which seems to shine through ever brighter each time you attempt to justify your statements. Perhaps your statement was much more intentional than I originally gave you credit for...that would be unfortunate.

i don't think it was "highlighting my ignorance"

It certainly was. Of course, your attempt to take me to task on this tangent has simply further highlighted your ignorance.

i think you just got upset because you're realizing that everyone's tired of your "reading comprehension" shtick. symmetry does it better than you do, honestly, and even he looks like an idiot when he does it.

Perhaps if you'd read for comprehension, you wouldn't have so much difficulty with it. Words have meaning, John. Use them correctly.

[Woodruff]

It's not a matter of reading comprehension, but racism refers to a certain set of values. Voting for Obama because he's black doesn't fall into racism for the same reason that February being Black History Month isn't racist.

But voting for Obama because he is black is the opposite of what Martin Luther King taught. That is making decision based solely on skin color.

Which is absolutely stupid, no question. But it's not racism.

btw, charges of racism only work against people who are not racist, because if you charge a racist with racism, they will say "yeah.....and???" Food for thought

That doesn't even make basic sense, Phatscotty.