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- paranoid-android
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paranoid-android wrote:i was not aware this quote was present in the movie....i think i must dust off the movies to double check that.
Well, technically the quote it "There's no mystical energy force controlling my destiny" but it's on the list of 100 Star Wars quotes made better by substituting the word 'pants.'
It's on the list with "I find your lack of pants disturbing." or "Search your pants, you know it to be true."
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Numia Kereru wrote:I'm a staunch follower of the Shaolin religion
In that case, I'm a follower of Wu-Tang!
qwert wrote:Can i ask you something?What is porpose for you to open these Political topic in ConquerClub? Why you mix politic with Risk? Why you not open topic like HOT AND SEXY,or something like that.
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Guiscard wrote:Numia Kereru wrote:I'm a staunch follower of the Shaolin religion
In that case, I'm a follower of Wu-Tang!
Ahhh... Buddha Blessss
do you play 9D?
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- unriggable
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z19z4 wrote:oooooooooook ur a just so jelous u dont have 1 to comite to
No, we just don't see the need to go to a church every sunday to pay money to people who abuse children for saying several verses that are in a book written two millenia ago by people we don't even know about claiming to spread the word of god even though they could well have been doing peyote at the time.
I know peyote didn't exist in the Mideast. Shut up.

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unriggable wrote:z19z4 wrote:oooooooooook ur a just so jelous u dont have 1 to comite to
No, we just don't see the need to go to a church every sunday to pay money to people who abuse children for saying several verses that are in a book written two millenia ago by people we don't even know about claiming to spread the word of god even though they could well have been doing peyote at the time.
I know peyote didn't exist in the Mideast. Shut up.
I'm almost positive that shrooms were abundant, however

- unriggable
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Opiate by Tool wrote:Choices always were a problem for you
What you need is someone strong to guide you
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
What you need is someone strong to guide you...
Like me
Like me
Like me
Like me
If you want to get your soul to heaven
Trust in me, now don't you judge or question
You are broken now, but faith can heal you
Just do everything i tell you to do
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
What you need is someone strong to guide you
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
Let me lay my holy hand a, hand upon you
My god's will
Becomes me
When he speaks
He speaks through me
He has needs
Like i do
We both want
To rape you
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your light, now
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your lies, now
If you want to get your soul to heaven
Trust in me, now don't you judge or question
You are broken now, but faith can heal you
Just do everything i tell you to do
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your light, now
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your lies, now
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
Let me lay my holy hand a, hand upon you
My god's will
Becomes me
When he speaks
He speaks through me
He has needs
Like i do
We both want
To rape you!

unriggable wrote:Opiate by Tool wrote:Choices always were a problem for you
What you need is someone strong to guide you
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
What you need is someone strong to guide you...
Like me
Like me
Like me
Like me
If you want to get your soul to heaven
Trust in me, now don't you judge or question
You are broken now, but faith can heal you
Just do everything i tell you to do
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
What you need is someone strong to guide you
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
Let me lay my holy hand a, hand upon you
My god's will
Becomes me
When he speaks
He speaks through me
He has needs
Like i do
We both want
To rape you
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your light, now
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your lies, now
If you want to get your soul to heaven
Trust in me, now don't you judge or question
You are broken now, but faith can heal you
Just do everything i tell you to do
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your light, now
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your lies, now
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
Let me lay my holy hand a, hand upon you
My god's will
Becomes me
When he speaks
He speaks through me
He has needs
Like i do
We both want
To rape you!
I fucking love Tool
- Reamus1205
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I don't think so
z19z4 wrote:oooooooooook ur a just so jelous u dont have 1 to comite to
I don't think so. A lot of people have spiritual beliefs that are not represented by an institutional organization. Many people may not be able to fully articulate their beliefs, but everyone has some... even if it IS a complete belief that this physical world and body we have is all there is, and that it's all just a collection of mater and energy.
The fact of the mater is, that religious institutions all over the world are experiencing drops in converts, with the globalization of the world, people's religious and spiritual beliefs are just getting more and more integrated, and with the advances of modern science they are also getting more complex. How do things like the Big Bang, Evolution, and Quantum Theory all enter in to the religious equation?
For example, Imagine a table with jigsaw pieces spread around in what people might consider "a mess." Now imagine that this jigsaw table starts shaking and vibrating. As it does these pieces start to bounce around, and given enough time it is very plausible that some pieces will connect to each other, become one piece, and continue bouncing around until hooking up again. Eventualy it is possible that these pieces all come together to make one complete jigsaw image (say for example with an image of the Mona Lisa on it).
The question one might ask is, "was all of this random chance?" It is understandable to say yes, that this Mona Lisa image sitting on this table is the product of random collisions. However, it would be also understandable to state that no, every motion of those pieces was the direct and predictable result of the motion and force of the table moving.
A greater question then reveals itself... Is the existence of the Mona Lisa chance then, or was there some intelligence with a purpose to create the Mona Lisa?
In the case of the table, the Mona Lisa is in "actual" existence. Meaning it is actualy existing at that moment. However, when the pieces were not together and they were instead scattered all about the table, did the Mona Lisa exist then?
Some might be tempted to say no, but I would like to make a distinction here. I wil contend that the Mona Lisa existed "potentially" when the pieces were scattered about. and when they came together the Mona Lisa existed "actually." However, Da Vinci's Last Supper did not exist potentially. Unless someone changes some of the jigsaw pieces, or makes different color images on each one, there is no possibility of The Last Supper painting coming out the the pieces that made the Mona Lisa.
Does this point to a purpose, or some Intellegent order to the universe? Or not?
Though we can pursue this a heck of a lot further, the point of this examination is to reiterate my initial response... Though the analogy with the table deals with cosmic order and divine intellegence, It has little to do with things like the afterlife, the soul, and many other intagible concepts of metaphysics.
As I said, the initial point is that People's spiritual beliefs are rarely able to be summed up in a couple books of scripture and mythology, and are actually much more complex than any religious institution provides.
Religion and church are good for some people I will admit (it allows some people to focus things they may "feel" but can't articulate). But for many, religions just feel "unsatisfying" in one way or another and never able to help with all issues in that person's life.
Just because someone doesn't choose a religion doesn't mean they are "jealous" of your devotion to a particular one, or that they are naive, or blind. What it most likely means is that what they believe actually IS bigger, or at least not represented, by any particualr religion.
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Re: I don't think so
Reamus1205 wrote:z19z4 wrote:oooooooooook ur a just so jelous u dont have 1 to comite to
I don't think so. A lot of people have spiritual beliefs that are not represented by an institutional organization. Many people may not be able to fully articulate their beliefs, but everyone has some... even if it IS a complete belief that this physical world and body we have is all there is, and that it's all just a collection of mater and energy.
The fact of the mater is, that religious institutions all over the world are experiencing drops in converts, with the globalization of the world, people's religious and spiritual beliefs are just getting more and more integrated, and with the advances of modern science they are also getting more complex. How do things like the Big Bang, Evolution, and Quantum Theory all enter in to the religious equation?
For example, Imagine a table with jigsaw pieces spread around in what people might consider "a mess." Now imagine that this jigsaw table starts shaking and vibrating. As it does these pieces start to bounce around, and given enough time it is very plausible that some pieces will connect to each other, become one piece, and continue bouncing around until hooking up again. Eventualy it is possible that these pieces all come together to make one complete jigsaw image (say for example with an image of the Mona Lisa on it).
The question one might ask is, "was all of this random chance?" It is understandable to say yes, that this Mona Lisa image sitting on this table is the product of random collisions. However, it would be also understandable to state that no, every motion of those pieces was the direct and predictable result of the motion and force of the table moving.
A greater question then reveals itself... Is the existence of the Mona Lisa chance then, or was there some intelligence with a purpose to create the Mona Lisa?
In the case of the table, the Mona Lisa is in "actual" existence. Meaning it is actualy existing at that moment. However, when the pieces were not together and they were instead scattered all about the table, did the Mona Lisa exist then?
Some might be tempted to say no, but I would like to make a distinction here. I wil contend that the Mona Lisa existed "potentially" when the pieces were scattered about. and when they came together the Mona Lisa existed "actually." However, Da Vinci's Last Supper did not exist potentially. Unless someone changes some of the jigsaw pieces, or makes different color images on each one, there is no possibility of The Last Supper painting coming out the the pieces that made the Mona Lisa.
Does this point to a purpose, or some Intellegent order to the universe? Or not?
Though we can pursue this a heck of a lot further, the point of this examination is to reiterate my initial response... Though the analogy with the table deals with cosmic order and divine intellegence, It has little to do with things like the afterlife, the soul, and many other intagible concepts of metaphysics.
As I said, the initial point is that People's spiritual beliefs are rarely able to be summed up in a couple books of scripture and mythology, and are actually much more complex than any religious institution provides.
Religion and church are good for some people I will admit (it allows some people to focus things they may "feel" but can't articulate). But for many, religions just feel "unsatisfying" in one way or another and never able to help with all issues in that person's life.
Just because someone doesn't choose a religion doesn't mean they are "jealous" of your devotion to a particular one, or that they are naive, or blind. What it most likely means is that what they believe actually IS bigger, or at least not represented, by any particualr religion.
in english please? i dont have the attention span to pay attention to ALL of that.
- CrazyAnglican
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Hi
Howdy,
I'm a Christian. Welcome to the site.
I'm a Christian. Welcome to the site.
- Reamus1205
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Re: I don't think so
jnd94 wrote:in english please? i dont have the attention span to pay attention to ALL of that.
Sorry. However, I imagine you wouldn't have any trouble paying attention to many small posts that when you put them all together make up the same amount?
I guess I just thought it would be more efficient this way.
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- b.k. barunt
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As you can see, there is a lot of hostility on this site toward the "Jesus Freaks". Why do you suppose that is? Well you could just shrug it off (irresponsible at best) and become one of that crowd here. But allow me to submit to you that we have a lot of overbearing, arrogant assholes on this site that drag the name of Jesus through the mud. With 2 or 3 exceptions, the "Jesus Freaks" at CC seem to be using their religion as an excuse to justify their asinine right wing politics. You have already begun to follow their lead with your catty remark: "you're just jealous . . . (nya nya nya). Is this how Jesus would have responded? Take another look at your beliefs and understanding of such before you join the assholes. "Depart from me, I never knew you" is going to come as a very rude surprise to some.
- paranoid-android
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b.k. barunt wrote:As you can see, there is a lot of hostility on this site toward the "Jesus Freaks". Why do you suppose that is? Well you could just shrug it off (irresponsible at best) and become one of that crowd here. But allow me to submit to you that we have a lot of overbearing, arrogant assholes on this site that drag the name of Jesus through the mud. With 2 or 3 exceptions, the "Jesus Freaks" at CC seem to be using their religion as an excuse to justify their asinine right wing politics. You have already begun to follow their lead with your catty remark: "you're just jealous . . . (nya nya nya). Is this how Jesus would have responded? Take another look at your beliefs and understanding of such before you join the assholes. "Depart from me, I never knew you" is going to come as a very rude surprise to some.
Good call. Or "Jesus Freaks" in general.
"Lets impose our beliefs on millions of people, break them down, then convert them. While were at it, let's elect the worst leader a country has ever seen, just because he is a "Man of God" and he was "chosen by God for this job."
"God loves you, but only if you do this, this, and this. If you do none of these, then His vengeance will be swift!"
"Have a wonderful day! thank you for your money and our tax-exempt status!"
I'm sorry, but i just don't understand how anyone, even The Almighty, if there was one, would want to be associated with money stealers and pedophiles. It's just beyond me.
- Windparson
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Not every belief or church is like that Paranoid. One bad apple on an apple tree, does not condemn the whole tree.
I don't like people forcing their religious views on any one. I, for that matter, being a pastor, am not part of a "religion", I have a Faith. There is a huge difference.
Just as the "Jesus Freaks" should not make blanket pronouncements about their views, others should not make blanket announcements condemning all religion as well. Its a two way street.
Just me two cents, and, with an additional 3 dollars, will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
Windparson
I don't like people forcing their religious views on any one. I, for that matter, being a pastor, am not part of a "religion", I have a Faith. There is a huge difference.
Just as the "Jesus Freaks" should not make blanket pronouncements about their views, others should not make blanket announcements condemning all religion as well. Its a two way street.
Just me two cents, and, with an additional 3 dollars, will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
Windparson
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Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving on. U.S. Grant
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