Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ Endgame, Scum win!

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Mod, could you change the front page's phase, please?
I have some ideas, but perhaps we should hear from vodean first.

[vodean]

It would help know who Thor was aiming for.

not really. FOS dj for saying that.

[pancakemix]

i back my statement that he may be the sk or mafia even though mafia is unlikely maybe he is sk...all the scene points to him being an sk

You're an idiot.

Vote Clever

It would help know who Thor was aiming for.

not really. FOS dj for saying that.

Why the hell not?

[pancakemix]

Wow, I didn't mean to write something that pissy. More kindly:

There is no situation anywhere at any time that Thor is a baddie (except maybe some Marvel comic, but that's a Marvel comic and not Norse mythology). So no, and you're scum or an idiot for suggesting that. Maybe both.

Second, I see no harm in revealing more about Thor s long as his identity is hidden. You're masoned with him and claimed to share a role pm with him, so you probably know what's up. It's pretty apparent that he's a vig anyway, amirite?

[safariguy5]

I detect extreme defensiveness from vodean with regards to Thor, and while I understand that leaving him unknown is probably best for now, I don't see how revealing his night target is bad. Especially since he appears to be a vig of some kind and not a cop or something.

Also, it makes no sense for Thor to be an SKer or vig if Loki is portrayed as being the antagonist. All the night time chatter to the side, for clever to claim Thor as mafia/sker makes me think clever might be some sort of lyncher.

vote clever

[soundman]

So I gave it a bit of thought and came up with a possibility. Mafia targets player X, Thor targets player X (Assuming he has a kill of some sort). Player X is then busdriven with Strike. Vodean, can you just tell us who Thor targeted? And if he's not a Vig then what is he? You don't need to tell us who he is yet, just some specifics.

Clever, really? Thor as Mafia or SK? That doesn't fit at all and warrants some pressure. Vote Clever

[vodean]

ok. thor is vig.
he targeted safguy.

on the other hand, other than being an idiot, i dont see much of a case against clever.

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Well, there was the matter of him and jonty defending each other.
But, this new evidence does seem incriminating, vote saf, any ideas why night may have turned out this way?

[vodean]

Well, there was the matter of him and jonty defending each other.
But, this new evidence does seem incriminating, vote saf, any ideas why night may have turned out this way?

did you mean to say saf? or clever?

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Well, there was the matter of him and jonty defending each other.
But, this new evidence does seem incriminating, vote saf, any ideas why night may have turned out this way?

did you mean to say saf? or clever?

I was commenting that Clever was defending Jonty yesterday, in response to you saying there is no case on clever.
But voted Saf based on the scene and info we have.

[Djfireside]

The main thing that is bothering me about the scene and that Thor did have a target is that why would a town Vig, unless they had a feeling about something or were forced, fire off on D1. Nevertheless it happened. Saf however appears to be the target of a drive so the question now comes out of it, Why Saf and why did two hit at him and for what reasoning. The question is pertainent because from what I remember he was drawing attention but was also going after Vodean and putting negative attention that way. Since I believe vodean, I believe thor is town, meaning that either it was coincidence or saf was being protected.

I think I want to hear what saf is

Vote Safari

[everywhere116]

Well, there was the matter of him and jonty defending each other.
But, this new evidence does seem incriminating, vote saf, any ideas why night may have turned out this way?

Wait, how does saf being targeted by the vig signify him being scum? Can you clarify that for me? I agree he was acting somewhat scummy yesterday, but I don't see how this tips the scales.

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Well, there was the matter of him and jonty defending each other.
But, this new evidence does seem incriminating, vote saf, any ideas why night may have turned out this way?

Wait, how does saf being targeted by the vig signify him being scum? Can you clarify that for me? I agree he was acting somewhat scummy yesterday, but I don't see how this tips the scales.

The scene seems to indicate Thor did something to someone who was doing something to Odin. (unless someone has a better explanation)
It may not have been the killer as the scene indicates thor made the killing blow, but I would like to hear more.

[Djfireside]

He was the target of both the mafia and the vig, traditionally a good mafia busser will use their own people to bus around so coupled with yesterdays showing it gained enough.

[vodean]

im still in full support of the case against saf, but im not sure why / voted him.
vote saf

i still dont understand the case against clever.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

i back my statement that he may be the sk or mafia even though mafia is unlikely maybe he is sk...all the scene points to him being an sk

You're an idiot.

Vote Clever

It would help know who Thor was aiming for.

not really. FOS dj for saying that.

Why the hell not?

i dont like being personally insulted. ill leave it be though. im sorry i didnt add the vig option i think of vig and sk as the same. just the way i think sorry.

[pancakemix]

I don't usually go the insult route either. My bad.

It still stands to reason that suggesting Thor is scum doesn't make a lick of sense, which is WHY I find it odd that you didn't consider vig.

[edocsil]

Heads up guys. With the rushed scene I was playing a little fast and loose with the names. Night actions in the scenes =/= exactly to what happened. Yes, there were busdrives, yes Odin died, yes Thor tried to kill, but as far as the rest of it goes, well I had a scene to write. All characters that acted in the night are obviously not in the scene.

[freezie]

Well, there was the matter of him and jonty defending each other.
But, this new evidence does seem incriminating, vote saf, any ideas why night may have turned out this way?

Wait, how does saf being targeted by the vig signify him being scum? Can you clarify that for me? I agree he was acting somewhat scummy yesterday, but I don't see how this tips the scales.

The scene seems to indicate Thor did something to someone who was doing something to Odin. (unless someone has a better explanation)
It may not have been the killer as the scene indicates thor made the killing blow, but I would like to hear more.

Actually, thor tried to do something on someone other than Odin, but was redirected. Odin obviously had something done to him as he died. Something.


--Something

[safariguy5]

Well I'm Vali, Town Watcher. I watched vodean last night, nobody visited her.

[vodean]

Well I'm Vali, Town Watcher. I watched vodean last night, nobody visited her.

and then who did i visit? remember how people BW'ed me when i claimed with no pressure? As i recall, you called me out on it in this very thread.

[pancakemix]

Well I'm Vali, Town Watcher. I watched vodean last night, nobody visited her.

and then who did i visit? remember how people BW'ed me when i claimed with no pressure? As i recall, you called me out on it in this very thread.

That's not how that works.

The claim fits someone who'd be pro-town, but I'm iffy on it, as there isn't much info on him, just that he executed vengeance on a blind god who caused Ragnarok. Then there's another Vali entirely who's related to Loki.

I'm leaning no here.

[vodean]

on the other hand, when i claimed with no pressure, i was innocent, so that does make sense.

[safariguy5]

on the other hand, when i claimed with no pressure, i was innocent, so that does make sense.

No, I had pressure, you had 0 pressure. I'm pretty sure I was heading for a claim anyways. Nobody had any reason to suspect you more than anyone else. The situations are different but you are choosing to focus on the number of votes only. Unless you were throwing your vote on me just to see my reaction, you must admit that you yourself were looking for a claim from me. Which makes the situations different.

[vodean]

on the other hand, when i claimed with no pressure, i was innocent, so that does make sense.

No, I had pressure, you had 0 pressure. I'm pretty sure I was heading for a claim anyways. Nobody had any reason to suspect you more than anyone else. The situations are different but you are choosing to focus on the number of votes only. Unless you were throwing your vote on me just to see my reaction, you must admit that you yourself were looking for a claim from me. Which makes the situations different.

i was going for a reaction. i did not think your reaction was that great.