France-Update 20=no texture

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:36 pm

spinwizard wrote:any comments on the map?

1. Refine borders.
2. Use something more French instead of the jets. I gave you some ideas earlier in this thread.
3. Change textures.
4. Army numbers need centring.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:08 pm

i like the textures
code is not done yet, those r just drafts
the jets r french fighters

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:55 pm

change the grey color.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:27 am

B->U->M->P

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:33 am

some borders aren't good if i have time i will make a list of them

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:10 am

thanks in advance, i cant see a problem with them

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:32 am

spinwizard wrote:i like the textures
code is not done yet, those r just drafts
the jets r french fighters

Many people have said they don't like them (the textures) though and have also commented on your borders which are too thick and inconsistent. Fix those instead of bumping the thread. You cannot just say I like them as they are and end the argument there.

Personally I also think the Rafale jets are out of place on this map even though they are French. I would like to see something else like the Eiffel Tower and the Montgolfier instead.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:05 pm

no textures,
clearer borders

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:45 pm

do u all like this 1?

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:52 pm

no , the other one

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:57 pm

ok, this map is going back and forth cause i have used about 10 textures and u don't like any of them!

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:59 pm

use the one with the texture on it

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:39 pm

spinwizard wrote:ok, this map is going back and forth cause i have used about 10 textures and u don't like any of them!

Put up a poll.

And you haven't fixed the borders. The problem is that they are not all of the same thickness. Maybe you are not understanding me...perhaps someone else can explain the problem to you?

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:02 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
spinwizard wrote:ok, this map is going back and forth cause i have used about 10 textures and u don't like any of them!

Put up a poll.

And you haven't fixed the borders. The problem is that they are not all of the same thickness. Maybe you are not understanding me...perhaps someone else can explain the problem to you?

yes i hope some1 can, i have made them ver and over again!

as 4 the textures, i will make 5-10 different textures and put up a poll!

ParadiceCity9 · Post by **ParadiceCity9** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:27 pm

Bad Speler wrote:Is it just me or is the texture in the grey continent stronger then the rest?

ya i think that too

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:40 pm

i just looked at the borders and i think if i must put them all here it is going to be a list from here to tokio
so i explain it:

see the circles thats where the borders are wrong, and you have that in nearly every country

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:16 pm

so they r not very clean???

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:42 pm

Use a pattern overlay on photoshop with about 30% opacity.. they typically like those.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:52 pm

i use fireworks...thatnk 4 the tip tho

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:26 pm

this map is on vacation!

i feel it is going back and forth with no real progress and argueing over petiy things!

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:14 pm

Spinwizard...can u post the latest version in the bottom of P15, thanks. I want ot see what everyone is debating (not arguing - it sounds better).
btw...I do understand your frustration.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:59 am

here it is, no1 likes any of the 10 textures i have used

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:48 pm

spinwizard wrote:here it is, no1 likes any of the 10 textures i have used

OK here's my thoughts (checking this at 400% magnification on IE7):
* why not change the background grey on "other regions" to solid texture....only keep texture on the france territories. since other regions are not in play, does it matter if they have no texture?
also, you have to decide what texture U LIKE on this map and if you want it to stick, then justify it against what others are saying, don't be afraid to justify it, but be very adament about why u want the texture to stick...understand?
Other things (as I haven't said much since way back):
* what is that shadow that is appearing on metz, meuse and ardennes borders...i don't think that is meant to be from the planes?
* see if you can lose the very sharp kink in the border between oise and eure
* also the kink/sharp corner on the champagne/yonne border, there appears to be some non anti-alias and smooth anti-alias heppening there together...check this hasn't happened anywhere esle on the border as it will show as a sharp kink/corner
* several of your army shadows are not centred...orne, vosges, metz, ardennes and others...check these!
* there is a white shadow happening on the savoie northern border
* is your med sea blue different to the north sea blue ( i myself think that sea blue is making the map darker, but that is only a very subjective thing for me and only my opinion)
* i agree with keyogi (i think it was) the white glow on the coastline needs to continue around the entire coast as it looks odd only on france
* i'll send you my wave texture from battle of australia if u want to see what that looks like on your oceans...it "appears" as though you have the same but reduced texture happening on the sea as on land.
Keep going! Onward and upward! You'll get there

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:55 pm

spinwizard wrote:ok, this map is going back and forth cause i have used about 10 textures and u don't like any of them!

Step back and choose something you like. If whatever you're going to do will please nobody you might as well please yourself.

And when I say "please" it's in relative terms. All the textures look good. Some look better. None look bad.

Did someone say smooth out the borders? It's not essential to have wrinkle free borders, but with fewer kinks the map will appear bolder and more professional.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:49 pm

cairnswk wrote:
spinwizard wrote:here it is, no1 likes any of the 10 textures i have used

OK here's my thoughts (checking this at 400% magnification on IE7):
* why not change the background grey on "other regions" to solid texture....only keep texture on the france territories. since other regions are not in play, does it matter if they have no texture?
also, you have to decide what texture U LIKE on this map and if you want it to stick, then justify it against what others are saying, don't be afraid to justify it, but be very adament about why u want the texture to stick...understand?
Other things (as I haven't said much since way back):
* what is that shadow that is appearing on metz, meuse and ardennes borders...i don't think that is meant to be from the planes?
* see if you can lose the very sharp kink in the border between oise and eure
* also the kink/sharp corner on the champagne/yonne border, there appears to be some non anti-alias and smooth anti-alias heppening there together...check this hasn't happened anywhere esle on the border as it will show as a sharp kink/corner
* several of your army shadows are not centred...orne, vosges, metz, ardennes and others...check these!
* there is a white shadow happening on the savoie northern border
* is your med sea blue different to the north sea blue ( i myself think that sea blue is making the map darker, but that is only a very subjective thing for me and only my opinion)
* i agree with keyogi (i think it was) the white glow on the coastline needs to continue around the entire coast as it looks odd only on france
* i'll send you my wave texture from battle of australia if u want to see what that looks like on your oceans...it "appears" as though you have the same but reduced texture happening on the sea as on land.
Keep going! Onward and upward! You'll get there

ok i will work on this, can u send me the texture?