Capital Punishment

Kill_Schmitty · Post by **Kill_Schmitty** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:20 pm

Ok well I am writing an essay for my Comp I class about Capital Punishment. I just wanted to hear what other people think about the subject, are you for it or against it?

2dimes · Post by **2dimes** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:21 pm

I believe it prevents second offenders.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:22 pm

I am all for it in the most criminal cases where the proof is overwhelming and there are numerous witnesses. In any other situation (even in cases of murder) capital punishment should be omitted as an option.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:22 pm

I am for it...

Sorry, but there is already an overpopulation problem on this planet... As we continue to force ourselves to live in a smaller and smaller area and destroy our natural habitats and environments, something has to be done...

Better to weed out the baddies.

jnd94 · Post by **jnd94** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:23 pm

Im against it. the stae has no right to kill people, no matter what they did. Whatever happened to "no cruel and unusual punishmnet" in the constitution? I dont know about if they deserve it or not, but state geovernment doesnt have the power to kill someone just cuz they may have been convicted.

And wat about if the courts make a mistake? a innocent guy will be killed because the didnt recheck the DNA, or something like that.

heavycola · Post by **heavycola** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:27 pm

2dimes wrote:I believe it prevents second offenders.

considering how errant our justce systems can be it is unacceptable, even if you believe it is a reasonable punishment. It has no deterrent effect either. it is barbaric, unchristian and wrong.

2dimes · Post by **2dimes** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:28 pm

heavycola wrote:
2dimes wrote:I believe it prevents second offenders.

considering how errant our justce systems can be it is unacceptable, even if you believe it is a reasonable punishment. It has no deterrent effect either. it is barbaric, unchristian and wrong.

So based on the underlined word you're for it?

Kill_Schmitty · Post by **Kill_Schmitty** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:37 pm

heavycola wrote:
2dimes wrote:I believe it prevents second offenders.

considering how errant our justce systems can be it is unacceptable, even if you believe it is a reasonable punishment. It has no deterrent effect either. it is barbaric, unchristian and wrong.

The only reason why its not a detterent is because we do it all wrong. We need to make an example of a few certain people that we know are guilty so that people know that soemthign WILL happen to them.

2dimes · Post by **2dimes** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:46 pm

Kill_Schmitty wrote:The only reason why its not a detterent is because we do it all wrong. We need to make an example of a few certain people that we know are guilty so that people know that soemthign WILL happen to them.

I disagree, look at the shooter the other day. He obviously would not be deterred by the death penalty as he self administered it.

It may be a deterent in some cases but it tends not to be. I stand by it preventing second offenses.

dwightschrute · Post by **dwightschrute** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:48 pm

i think that ppl sometimes deserve it, i mean its either jail for life or this. i think that they should be able to choose tho.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:50 pm

Give me a .22 cal pistol and a bullet... I'll put it behind their ear...

Think about the taxes we would save... and look at all of the violemnt offenders that are released so WEED dealers can go to jail!! It is fucking ridiculous.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:52 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:Give me a .22 cal pistol and a bullet... I'll put it behind their ear...

Actually, if you do that, there is a chance that it will go underneath the skin on their head. Which would be painful and annoying.

2dimes · Post by **2dimes** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:56 pm

Again too much administrative. I've read it's more expensive to euthinize a prisoner than to keep them confined for 30 years. Due to lawyer/court costs of the process.

Kill_Schmitty · Post by **Kill_Schmitty** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:04 pm

2dimes wrote:
Kill_Schmitty wrote:The only reason why its not a detterent is because we do it all wrong. We need to make an example of a few certain people that we know are guilty so that people know that soemthign WILL happen to them.
I disagree, look at the shooter the other day. He obviously would not be deterred by the death penalty as he self administered it.

It may be a deterent in some cases but it tends not to be. I stand by it preventing second offenses.

Well first I have to believe that this guy had something wrong with him.. a sane person does not go and kill 32 people. if he was sane then he probably went after one perons, maybe a chick that turned him down or a professer that pissed him off. but after he got that one person something happened he probably just started shooting. but thats also why he probably killed himself. he didnt want the death penalty or the humiliation. But even he was still alive imprisoned right now it doesnt mean he would have even been sentenced to death. no state is forced to condemn a murder. thats why we have murders, baby killers, and rapists still on the loose, which goes to what your saying. it stops people like him from getting back out and doing it all over again.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:05 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:Think about the taxes we would save... and look at all of the violemnt offenders that are released so WEED dealers can go to jail!! It is fucking ridiculous.

Americans have no fucking idea about priorities.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:05 pm

unriggable wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:Think about the taxes we would save... and look at all of the violemnt offenders that are released so WEED dealers can go to jail!! It is fucking ridiculous.

Americans have no fucking idea about priorities.

AMEN BROTHER!

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:38 pm

I think it's horrific and disturbing. I'm disgusted that people who support it are considered normal, that it's deemed a reasonable thing to debate. I think about capital punishment, and I weep for humanity.

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:43 pm

All for capital punishment for murderers, otherwise I don't think it's appropriate.

kingwaffles · Post by **kingwaffles** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:44 pm

btownmeggy wrote:I think it's horrific and disturbing. I'm disgusted that people who support it are considered normal, that it's deemed a reasonable thing to debate. I think about capital punishment, and I weep for humanity.

Well said.

I agree that our planet is slowly succumbing to an overpopulation problem , but that doesn't mean that we should just kill off the people we don't like.

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:46 pm

jnd94 wrote:Im against it. the stae has no right to kill people, no matter what they did. Whatever happened to "no cruel and unusual punishmnet" in the constitution? I dont know about if they deserve it or not, but state geovernment doesnt have the power to kill someone just cuz they may have been convicted.

And wat about if the courts make a mistake? a innocent guy will be killed because the didnt recheck the DNA, or something like that.

"no cruel and unusual punishment" means you can't stab a guy and watch him bleed to death. It doesn't say anything about not killing anyone.

People can be on death row for a long time, if they are innocent there is still a chance to prove it before they get killed.

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:49 pm

dwightschrute wrote:i think that ppl sometimes deserve it, i mean its either jail for life or this. i think that they should be able to choose tho.

Even jail for life gives them a chance to escape. I'd risk having a few innocent people killed to prevent that one psychopath escape and kill twice as many in cold blood.

Kill_Schmitty · Post by **Kill_Schmitty** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:49 pm

I want to ask the people who appose capital punishment this: If a man walked into your house and chopped up one of your loved one (spouse, parent, kid etc.) would you not want the same fate for him? Or would you just like him to go to jail for the rest of his life where he would live his life out very well considering the US prisons. I know if some one purposefully killed some one i loved, i would be the one to pull the lever to open the trap door as they fall and the rope tightnes around their neck

... Just a question though

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:50 pm

Kill_Schmitty wrote:I want to ask the people who appose capital punishment this: If a man walked into your house and chopped up one of your loved one (spouse, parent, kid etc.) would you not want the same fate for him?

Do you seriously think people who oppose capital punishment have never contemplated such a scenario?

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:50 pm

i stand by heavycola and 2dimes.

beezer · Post by **beezer** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:51 pm

If capital punishment is not the penalty for those who unjustly murder and take innocent life, then what is the correct punishment?

Capital Punishment

Capital Punishment

What is the answer?