Custergrant and Saranalos

joon · Post by **joon** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:53 pm

These are suspected Multis

Suspect users: Custergrant and Saranalos

Game number: All of Saranalos' games.

Comments: Saranalos has not played a game w/o Custergrant, and has yet to win.

Very subtle, guy.

-joon

Saranalos · Post by **Saranalos** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:42 pm

Bah, Custergrant is my friend. He introduced me to this game a few days ago. So far I have found I enjoy playing with friends more than random players. Even if sometimes a friend is not available I find it more enjoyable to play with Custer. I have a couple of doubles games going where I know all the people in them.

Now he informed me about this post. Bah.

Custergrant · Post by **Custergrant** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:49 pm

Why am I being reported? Why is Sara being reported? Can't friends play this game together? We've played a lot of other online games together and weren't accused of anything, why this one? I started this before Sara, so he's still relatively new, so he loses. No reason to accuse anyone. Every game I've played so far has been with a good friend of mine, whether it be Oli, GN, Pac, Quin, Spin, or Sara. We all have different IP's and whatnot. No need to accuse friends of playing each other. <_<

podge · Post by **podge** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:31 pm

yes friends can play together but it's a load of bullshit to play a three player game with your buddy then try to disguise the fact that you know each other. I've just been looking through your games and when your playing with 2 friends you chat all the way through. When playing with one buddy you hardly if ever say a word to each other, I wonder why that is ?

Saranalos · Post by **Saranalos** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:08 pm

We talk on MSN. With 2 friends, not everyone has MSN, so it is easier to talk in them. There is also the fact that the third player does not talk very much usually.

You can ask Quin, Oli, Pac and GN if we are seperate players. I'm hardly sure they'd like it if we were cheating.

podge · Post by **podge** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:44 pm

I didn't suggest for one minute that you were a multi so stop trying to cloud the issue What I said was it is bullshit to play in a three man game with your one buddy. the other poor guy doesn't have a chance. if you want to play standard games then all of you play together or all play individually but to play two against one stinks.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:21 pm

Rules wrote:No secret alliances

Discussing strategy in MSN is classified under secret alliance, because it is an act of collusion between two players not on the same team. That is against the rules. You two will be blocked from playing together.

Custergrant · Post by **Custergrant** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:04 pm

First off, nobody said we were communicating strategies. If you look in each game, I've always owned Sara and the other guy at around the same time. It's my particular strat to do that, although Sara, I guess out of experience, is learning to counter that :s, but 2 vs. 1 isn't fair. Why do you think I'm playing team games with my friends? Just because I'm playing a game with a friend doesn't mean I have to block him on MSN because any communication at all is illegal. And if you want convo logs, the conversation that does pertain to the game is usually just "Crap!", "LOL", "Gah!, why'd you hit me? ><". I agree that discussing of strategies privately among players is wrong, but I believe spectating isn't against the rules.

Sheesh, you guys are horrible. <_<

It'd be nice to go back to your own business instead of being so damn nosy and stop accusing people of things. This is the most anti-friend site I've ever seen. <_<

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:32 pm

It's not anti-friend. It's just anti-talking-to-friend-while-playing-a-game-together.

Custergrant · Post by **Custergrant** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:41 pm

So I can't laugh at dumb mistakes, or scream in despair, or talk about things not even related to the game, basically, is what you're saying? Listen, I'm sick right now, I really don't want to be sitting here arguing, but when dern people sit there and accuse you of things that you haven't done, and threaten to punish you, it really sucks. Not sure how much value this has, but take my word for it, nothing against the rules is going on. I'm an honest person and would never take advantage of a fellow random player. 2 vs. 1 is just plain wrong and I have enough common decency, something I'm beginning to feel you all lack, to not do that to random players that I have no clue who they are. In team games, that's probably more acceptable, when I'm playing friends only. But sheesh, you make me out to be the most horrible person at the site.

So to summarize, hopefully for the last time:

A. We're friends. Don't believe us, we belong to the Eye-Candy Guild, and that's just not Sara and me, but GN, Oli, Spin, everyone.

B. You want MSN convos, you can have them. I can tell you outright though that no strategy communicating took place, whatsoever.

I don't know what else you want. Sar and I ran an online game called Lords this summer, believe me, we know better than to take advantage of other people.

EDIT: I'm sure it looks like we're cheating, but I can reassure you I'm not. And if it makes you any happier, I'll just block Sara on my MSN when we're playing non-team games. Nothing went wrong in the past, but if you're going to throw fits about it, I'm too sick to sit here and argue with all of you.

Custergrant · Post by **Custergrant** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:47 pm

Sorry for the double-post, but if you do accuse and punish Sara and me of doing the said crimes, which I can say we are innocent, that would be just plain discrimination. Because you would have to take into account the thousands of other friends that play games that might have a random foe in there...they're innocent...you going to accuse them too? Sheesh. <_<

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:49 pm

I just looked into it and you're right. I'm sorry for any trouble or anguish I've caused you. I'll be leaving now.

spindrift · Post by **spindrift** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:51 pm

Listen, i know custer and Sara, and they wouldnt take advantage of someone in a game such as this. Also they said they'd give you the msn logs, what more do you want?

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:53 pm

pancakemix wrote:I just looked into it and you're right. I'm sorry for any trouble or anguish I've caused you. I'll be leaving now.

You obviously missed this.

spindrift · Post by **spindrift** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:55 pm

damn lol