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- koontz1973
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Re: Baltic Crusades [5 Nov 2011]
Frame looks a lot sharper now. Thanks.
I know I have probably missed it somewhere in the thread but why are some territs a light brown (Kuyavia, Sudovia etc)?
I know I have probably missed it somewhere in the thread but why are some territs a light brown (Kuyavia, Sudovia etc)?

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Re: Baltic Crusades [5 Nov 2011]
koontz1973 wrote:Frame looks a lot sharper now. Thanks.
I know I have probably missed it somewhere in the thread but why are some territs a light brown (Kuyavia, Sudovia etc)?
Right legend, where bonuses are listed:
- Teutonic Order (Pomesania+Ermland+Prussia) gives you +2
If you hold also Kuyavia it gives you an additional +1 - East Prussia (Samland+Nadruvia+Scalovia) =+2
If you hold also Sudovia you will recive an additional +1 - Osel Wiek =2 with Dago additional +1
- Courland (B.of Courland + Courland) = +1 , with Zemgale additional +1
- Sword of Brethen (sakala+livonia+latgale) = +2, with Sileja additional +1
- Papa Legatus (B. of Dorpat + AB of Riga) = +2 , with Riga additional +1
I'm not a fan of the current bonus system, but it was developed by [player]theBastard[/player] and I don't know if touch it again is a good idea. To be honest I would get rid of those lighter zones, adjust bonuses accordingly, but leave the trade routes. I don't know they look to me something not totally necessary to enjoy the map.

But I need a strong support in this direction to go with it.
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Re: Baltic Crusades [5 Nov 2011]
I would change it for a couple of reasons. They are not essential to the gameplay and add an unnecessary confusion to the map. I had looked at the map and still not worked out the reason for them. If you keep it, I would make the colouring the same or similar to the main region, having the different colour detracts from the map. IMO.

Re: Baltic Crusades [5 Nov 2011]
I like the bonus system as it is, with the ability to supplement the basic bonuses with a little extra.
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Re: Baltic Crusades [5 Nov 2011]
So? I can go with the small version or not? 
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Re: Baltic Crusades [5 Nov 2011]
No, you should add tons more bevel and outer glow, and change the title font to comic sans.
Just kidding, it's good
Just kidding, it's good

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Re: Baltic Crusades [5 Nov 2011]
natty_dread wrote:No, you should add tons more bevel and outer glow, and change the title font to comic sans.
Just kidding, it's good
For a moment there, I thought someone hacked your account.
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Scaling back on my CC involvement...
Scaling back on my CC involvement...
Re: Baltic Crusades [5 Nov 2011]
Victor Sullivan wrote:natty_dread wrote:No, you should add tons more bevel and outer glow, and change the title font to comic sans.
Just kidding, it's good
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For a moment there, I thought someone hacked your account.
-Sully
No one in their right mind would hack his account!
On the map note, I believe that you can go ahead and do the small.
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Re: Baltic Crusades [5 Nov 2011]
isaiah40 wrote:On the map note, I believe that you can go ahead and do the small.
Will do this weekend
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Re: Baltic Crusades [5 Nov 2011]
Here the small, a bit bigger for a better readability. Supersize application here --> viewtopic.php?f=583&t=151326&p=3486497#p3486497


Re: Baltic Crusades [7 Dec 2011]
I hope you resized this with a simple stretch. It might make it easier to use the Map Wizard to autoposition the troop numbers. (I hope the Map Wizard is working, I had heard some people were having some difficulties with it.)
Re: Baltic Crusades [7 Dec 2011]
I hereby grant thee this stamp for the small map only!


Re: Baltic Crusades [7 Dec 2011]
Can we change the text, "are river crosses" to "can ford rivers"? Maybe it's just my inner grammar geek, but "are river crosses" just doesn't sound good.
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Re: Baltic Crusades [7 Dec 2011]
"river crossings" might work as well.
--Andy
--Andy
Re: Baltic Crusades [7 Dec 2011]
Andy's wording is better, I think. A castle is a river crossing, because people can use it to cross the river which it straddles. A castle cannot ford a river, as a castle does not move.
Re: Baltic Crusades [7 Dec 2011]
ender516 wrote:Andy's wording is better, I think. A castle is a river crossing, because people can use it to cross the river which it straddles. A castle cannot ford a river, as a castle does not move.
As long as it gets changed. Maybe just, "Castles bridge rivers" would work. Short, clear, and to the point.
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Re: Baltic Crusades [7 Dec 2011]
Anything else?
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Re: Baltic Crusades [7 Dec 2011]
Looks like fun, but I don't understand some of the bonuses.
Take, for example, the Terra Mariana bonuses.
There's +2 troops bonus for holding Sword Brethen ('Brethren' might be the word you wanted here, btw)...but +1 troop for holding Selija as well. Don't you have to hold Selija to get the yellow Sword Brethen bonus? The same applies to other regions, which I notice are all highlighted in white. What does this indicate? I feel that I'm missing something important.
I like the graphics, anyway; and the concept, too.
Take, for example, the Terra Mariana bonuses.
There's +2 troops bonus for holding Sword Brethen ('Brethren' might be the word you wanted here, btw)...but +1 troop for holding Selija as well. Don't you have to hold Selija to get the yellow Sword Brethen bonus? The same applies to other regions, which I notice are all highlighted in white. What does this indicate? I feel that I'm missing something important.
I like the graphics, anyway; and the concept, too.
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Re: Baltic Crusades [7 Dec 2011]
Removed the white zones. They make everything unclear for nothing. Without them the gameplay won't change anyway.
Here's the final versions (sorry for my slowness):
[bigimg]http://www.wcforums.org/foundry/BalticCrusades/baltic5.4.png[/bigimg]

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Here's the final versions (sorry for my slowness):
[bigimg]http://www.wcforums.org/foundry/BalticCrusades/baltic5.4.png[/bigimg]

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Re: Baltic Crusades [7 Dec 2011]
ManBungalow wrote:Looks like fun, but I don't understand some of the bonuses.
Take, for example, the Terra Mariana bonuses.
There's +2 troops bonus for holding Sword Brethen ('Brethren' might be the word you wanted here, btw)...but +1 troop for holding Selija as well. Don't you have to hold Selija to get the yellow Sword Brethen bonus? The same applies to other regions, which I notice are all highlighted in white. What does this indicate? I feel that I'm missing something important.
I like the graphics, anyway; and the concept, too.
Terra mariana is both bonuses (all them, also the optional one). Sword of Brethren is just Latgale, Livonia and Sakala. If hold also Selija youwill get another +1
The white was there to make the additional bonus easier to understand, but it seems that it doesn't work at all.
To make another example East Prussia is scalovia samland and nadruvia (+2) if hold also sudovia you'll receive +3
I fixed the mispelled name in the legend.
- koontz1973
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Re: Baltic Crusades [7 Dec 2011]
Looks really really nice. Thanks for removing the white blobs.
Why is your name so small and basterd has his nice and large. Should it not be the other way round?
What is the . in B. of Dorpat and a couple of others. Just thinking it might be nicer without the dot.
Why is your name so small and basterd has his nice and large. Should it not be the other way round?
What is the . in B. of Dorpat and a couple of others. Just thinking it might be nicer without the dot.

Re: Baltic Crusades [2 Jan 2012]
Finally, I have reissued the graphics stamp for this one!!


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Re: Baltic Crusades [2 Jan 2012]
wooo FF again!
Thanks isaiah!
Ender can you double check you prevoius version of the xml so we can go for the second xml stamp (just to be sure) ?
Re: Baltic Crusades [2 Jan 2012]
thenobodies80 wrote:Ender can you double check you prevoius version of the xml so we can go for the second xml stamp (just to be sure) ?
Sorry, only one XML stamp per map!
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