AmphibiousRodent wrote:I had not thought about that. I will figure out maps and get back to you.
I vote for putting games that should be held on a neutral site (Big 10 conference championship, etc.) at a Random map. Games that are supposed to be held in certain stadiums (Rose Bowl) in whatever that stadium has been during the season.
I also realize this isn't a democracy, and my "vote" doesn't necessarily matter
Mountain West Rodent's pick: Boise State This one is tough -- any number of teams could take this one. I feel Air Force (5-1) has been the steadiest, but Boise (4-2) has shown the explosive ability to beat the top teams and is 3-0 against Top-25 competition. Boise's two losses came against unranked teams (29-23 to Tulsa and 27-25 to Nevada), but Tulsa is now ranked and Nevada is just outside the Top 25. UNLV (4-2) is 2-0 against the Top 25, but has losses to unranked Wisconsin and Washington State.
No mention of Colorado state--ouch --two losses now because of non starts--or they would be undefeated. A little luck and we win out--just thought I would mention that.
No mention of #11 Wyoming either... guess he didn't like our 3 point loss at home to UNLV.
Im sorry you really need to look into how you work this stupid RPI out!
How the hell you can have a team with a record of 5-2 be higher than a team that has 8-0 record or how a team with a 4-2 record be higher than a team that has a 7-1 record. Is this really how collage tables work or is this just you???
The way things are going you could have a team that has lost 2 games be top and have a team that goes unbeaten all season down in 7th! how fair is this??
ianphull wrote:Im sorry you really need to look into how you work this stupid RPI out!
How the hell you can have a team with a record of 5-2 be higher than a team that has 8-0 record or how a team with a 4-2 record be higher than a team that has a 7-1 record. Is this really how collage tables work or is this just you???
The way things are going you could have a team that has lost 2 games be top and have a team that goes unbeaten all season down in 7th! how fair is this??
Ever hear of Boise State (among others)? If you have an easy schedule, you don't get quality points for your wins.
Besides, Rodent has said that he's making some tweaks to the formula. I'm guessing by the time the end of the season rolls around, these anomalies will mostly disappear, whether from his tweaks or from the formula working things out.
But bottom line: You can't play an easy schedule and expect to be top-ranked when you win them all. Just like in the real BCS.
AmphibiousRodent wrote:I'm leaning toward conference championship games being on the USA map most closely associated with the conference, with no maps being duplicated.
ACC: USA New England Big Ten: USA Great Lakes C-USA: USA MAC: USA Rockies PAC-12: USA West (or USA Southwest) SEC: USA Southeast
AmphibiousRodent wrote:I'm leaning toward conference championship games being on the USA map most closely associated with the conference, with no maps being duplicated.
ACC: USA New England Big Ten: USA Great Lakes C-USA: USA MAC: USA Rockies PAC-12: USA West (or USA Southwest) SEC: USA Southeast
ianphull wrote:Im sorry you really need to look into how you work this stupid RPI out!
How the hell you can have a team with a record of 5-2 be higher than a team that has 8-0 record or how a team with a 4-2 record be higher than a team that has a 7-1 record. Is this really how collage tables work or is this just you???
The way things are going you could have a team that has lost 2 games be top and have a team that goes unbeaten all season down in 7th! how fair is this??
Ever hear of Boise State (among others)? If you have an easy schedule, you don't get quality points for your wins.
Besides, Rodent has said that he's making some tweaks to the formula. I'm guessing by the time the end of the season rolls around, these anomalies will mostly disappear, whether from his tweaks or from the formula working things out.
But bottom line: You can't play an easy schedule and expect to be top-ranked when you win them all. Just like in the real BCS.
With coming from England, now living in Canada I have never heard of any of the teams! or know who i s good and who is not!!!
In England you have leagues and some of them are brocken into North, South, East, and west but you always get the same amout for a win!! Or in some sprts you get a bonus point for winning by a bigger score!
I did try to google and look for the collage tables, to see who they work in real life butnot find them anywhere!!
You'll notice that Houston (9-0) is ranked behind a bunch of 8-1 teams, because Conference USA is generally considered a weaker conference and Houston's schedule is considered weaker. Boise State is undefeated (or near it) almost every year, but gets left out of the championship game because it's from a weak conference. That's why this tournament has a playoff bracket at the end instead of a single title game, which is a departure from real life.
It all must look pretty silly to someone who didn't grow up with the sport.
AmphibiousRodent wrote:In real life you have your AP poll, USA today coaches poll, and the BCS rankings (which takes the polls into account as well as computer rankings).
You'll notice that Houston (9-0) is ranked behind a bunch of 8-1 teams, because Conference USA is generally considered a weaker conference and Houston's schedule is considered weaker. Boise State is undefeated (or near it) almost every year, but gets left out of the championship game because it's from a weak conference. That's why this tournament has a playoff bracket at the end instead of a single title game, which is a departure from real life.
It all must look pretty silly to someone who didn't grow up with the sport.
Yeah, if you're not from here, this whole thing looks pretty weird. Hell, people argue every single year about whether the real college bowl system is fair or not. The fact that that argument is going on here is part of the fun of the tourney. It does suck if you got into this tournament not knowing that, but for us Yankees, it's probably one of the factors that made us want to play this tournament.
And man was I dissapointed, he bested me in and out in all but one game, stellar play, This is my prediction to win the PAC-12. Yes over myself. He is simply unstoppable!
It was a close one in Atlanta this week as Georgia Tech put a thrilling end to Clemson's recent rise. The down-south shoot-out showcased both teams offenses. The Yellow Jackets drew first blood putting up 10 points to Clemson's three in the first quarter. Clemson responded in the second quarter, but what turned out to be the decisive goalline stand kept them from taking the lead. They headed to halftime down for the first time in 3 weeks. It looked like Clemson would rebound in the second half as they scored two touchdowns in the third quarter to take the lead for the first time in the game. But Georgia Tech came right back with two fourth quarter touchdowns. An extra point by Georgia Tech iced the 37-36 victory, bringing them to 4-2 in conference play, which will place them near the top of the ACC Coastal Division. Clemson drops to 3-2 giving the Florida State Seminoles a chance to share the lead in the the Atlantic Division if they beat North Carolina this weekend.
And man was I dissapointed, he bested me in and out in all but one game, stellar play, This is my prediction to win the PAC-12. Yes over myself. He is simply unstoppable!
thanks you were a worthy opponent, the stiffest competition ive faced thus far, see you in the championship game
Coach Ricrem could only shake his head following Rutgers blowout home loss to West Virgina, a potentially huge blow in their quest for the Big East title.
"I don't know if we bought too much of our own hype, or what, but that was embarrassing. I mean we couldn't run the ball, throw the ball, or play defense. Those first 3 3 and outs (empty trips on my first turn in 3 of the 4 games) really set the tone for the evening. I have to hand it to West Virgina, they were really motivated on defense today. And it wasn't just the players (dice) that came up short today, I did too. I don't know what I was doing when we took 4 false start penalties in a row in the 3rd quarter (missed a turn in all 4 games). I guess we'll just have to regroup and prepare for USF next week."
NO. TEAM, CONF., W-L, RPI 1. Brigham Young Cougars, Ind., 9-0, 0.747 2. Iowa State Cyclones, Big-12, 7-0, 0.728 3. Boise State Broncos, MWC, 5-2, 0.726 4. Tulsa Golden Hurricane, C-USA, 6-0, 0.703 5. Michigan State Spartans, Big Ten, 7-1, 0.698 6. Ohio State Buckeyes, Big Ten, 7-1, 0.669 7. USC Trojans, PAC-12, 6-0, 0.652 8. Louisiana Tech Bulldogs, WAC, 7-1, 0.650 9. Wyoming Cowboys, MWC, 6-1, 0.633 10. Ball State Cardinals, MAC, 8-1, 0.618 11. Texas A&M Aggies, Big-12, 6-1, 0.610 12. Stanford Cardinal, PAC-12, 6-2, 0.607 13. Kansas State Wildcats, Big-12, 6-2, 0.607 14. Duke Blue Devils, ACC, 7-1, 0.604 15. UNLV Rebels, MWC, 4-2, 0.598 16. Missouri Tigers, Big-12, 5-2, 0.594 17. Buffalo Bulls, MAC, 6-1, 0.581 18. Michigan Wolverines, Big Ten, 7-1, 0.580 19. North Carolina Tar Heels, ACC, 7-1, 0.578 20. Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders, Sun Belt, 5-1, 0.577 21. South Carolina Gamecocks, SEC, 6-2, 0.575 22. Iowa Hawkeyes, Big Ten, 5-3, 0.574 23. Florida Gators, SEC, 4-3, 0.571 24. Nevada Wolf Pack, WAC, 5-2, 0.569 25. Florida International Golden Panthers, Sun Belt, 5-3, 0.567
We are down to four unbeaten teams ans 11 one-loss teams. Do you guys think anyone will make it through with a perfect record?
I'll get the standings updated and games sent out later tonight. And would someone in the Mountain West please beat Boise? He's screwin' up my rankings.
I think I'll be able to accomadate your request Rodent...playing this week on Forbidden City, which is a weak point for me.
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