Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [Quenched]

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:24 pm

Map Name: Pot Mosbi
Map Description:With names in Toki Pisin (where possible), the map is based on the suburban and regional layout of Port Moresby, the national capital of Papua New Guinea. Cultural influence has been used to storyboard the map in readiness for gamplay.
Territories:104, Continents:22
Gameplay type:Classic
Gameplay features:Ranged attacks, starting neutrals, killer neutrals, impassables, losing condition.
Mapmaker: cairnswk and XML:nolefan5311
Major Contribution:Victor Sullivan

Map Sizes:
Small - 892 x 800; Large - 1000 x 897

Current Version 20
Small:

Large:
[bigimg]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282/cairnswk/CC%20-%20Pot%20Mosbi/_pot_mosbi_V20Lcd.png[/bigimg]

Neutrals and Starts at V20

Colour Blind Test V14
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... cd_cbp.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... cd_cbd.jpg

Version 15 - 888s

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:28 pm

I approve!

-Sully

EDIT: Don't forget to apply for Supersize!

thenobodies80 · Post by **thenobodies80** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:17 pm

Now that I see it....let me say that certainly you can't throw this away.
Nice project!

A question, is it possible to reduce the small to have it within the limits (1000x800)?

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:27 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:Now that I see it....let me say that certainly you can't throw this away.
Nice project!

A question, is it possible to reduce the small to have it within the limits (1000x800)?

Yes. I can reduce the overall size, but it will be a bit tight in those smaller regions.
It will come down to 892 x 800 for small, large TBA.

isaiah40 · Post by **isaiah40** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:33 am

Let's do this!

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:55 am

Cairnswk, I like the look of this map. It has the aesthetic feel of other projects you've worked on, but it also feels fresher. Good work, and good luck.

--Andy

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:53 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Cairnswk, I like the look of this map. It has the aesthetic feel of other projects you've worked on, but it also feels fresher. Good work, and good luck.
--Andy

Thanks Andy, glad to hear you like it.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:54 pm

isaiah40 wrote:Let's do this!

Thanks for the stamp isaiah40.

isaiah40 · Post by **isaiah40** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:13 pm

cairnswk wrote:
isaiah40 wrote:Let's do this!

Thanks for the stamp isaiah40.

bilong yu welcome!

ManBungalow · Post by **ManBungalow** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:26 pm

Is this intended to be a map where each player starts with only one region; a tribe?
Being confined to one region, especially where they're unbalanced and can only attack one bonus, doesn't make for good gameplay.

However, I feel it would work well if each player started with a tribe, but also with a bunch of ordinary regions as in other classic-gameplay maps. This may already be your intention, and I'm sorry if I missed an obvious clue somewhere.

Otherwise, maybe add a little texture to the regions and move to the main map foundry, yes?

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:49 pm

ManBungalow wrote:Is this intended to be a map where each player starts with only one region; a tribe?
Being confined to one region, especially where they're unbalanced and can only attack one bonus, doesn't make for good gameplay.

However, I feel it would work well if each player started with a tribe, but also with a bunch of ordinary regions as in other classic-gameplay maps. This may already be your intention, and I'm sorry if I missed an obvious clue somewhere.

Otherwise, maybe add a little texture to the regions and move to the main map foundry, yes?

ManBungalow, thanks for your comment.

the presence of only a couple of neutrals would suggest to me that players start all over the place as in a classic scenario.
I will however clarify that in the front page statement. Thanks for pointing that out.
Yes each player will start with a tribe so they have the option of using the tribe invasion and consolidating internal other regions also. txture issue will be dealth with in graphics.

Seamus76 · Post by **Seamus76** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:01 pm

How the hell do you come up with this stuff so easily? This looks great, and makes my map look like my 3 year old daughter made it. :lol:

You are the man. Keep it coming.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:55 am

Seamus76 wrote:How the hell do you come up with this stuff so easily? This looks great, and makes my map look like my 3 year old daughter made it. You are the man. Keep it coming.

Seamus76. thanks for kudos, but your map is also inspiring for the skills and artwork and concept that you have, it brings a different perspective to the foundry....we all have different software and levels of skill, so don't think your map is any lesser than any others that have been progressed.

How do i come up with it...creativity, time, lots of research, desire and enjoyment of what i do here.

so here is Version 4.
1. the map has been downsized as per request from tnb80
2. textures have been added

isaiah40 · Post by **isaiah40** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:09 am

To be honest cairns, I really don't think you will need those army circles.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:10 pm

isaiah40 wrote:To be honest cairns, I really don't think you will need those army circles.

isaiah40...these are created as representational of the neck-gear that natives wear (some to show wealth) made from pigs teeth.
I am sorry but they stay as they give the map a slight "cultural" difference as part of the overall aesthetic

isaiah40 · Post by **isaiah40** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:15 pm

cairnswk wrote:
isaiah40 wrote:To be honest cairns, I really don't think you will need those army circles.

isaiah40...these are created as representational of the neck-gear that natives wear (some to show wealth) made from pigs teeth.
I am sorry but they stay as they give the map a slight "cultural" difference as part of the overall aesthetic

Ah, I read. Okay then.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:33 pm

isaiah40 wrote:...
Ah, I read. Okay then.

lukaut! yu, yupela ritim. bihain, yu raitim wantaim edukeitim :lol:

look out! you can read. next you can write with eduction

Seamus76 · Post by **Seamus76** » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:08 pm

I am really, really liking this map.

I don't see any gameplay issues, just a couple minor things:

- Maybe add "All" to Parks and Utilities in the Legend, i.e. "All Parks +5"
- The circle for Lapun Durand Epot needs to be moved down a bit.
- Where the Motu Tribe attack route and Walters Solwara attack route meet is a little funky. What if you moved the Motu Tribe ship closer to Paga, and had the Walters attack route go behind it? That would eliminate the crossing altogether. Just a thought.

Again, this is really cool and seems to be a great play for an 8 person game, and a nice, long tactical play for 1v1.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:47 pm

Seamus76 wrote:I am really, really liking this map.

I don't see any gameplay issues, just a couple minor things:

- Maybe add "All" to Parks and Utilities in the Legend, i.e. "All Parks +5"
- The circle for Lapun Durand Epot needs to be moved down a bit.
- Where the Motu Tribe attack route and Walters Solwara attack route meet is a little funky. What if you moved the Motu Tribe ship closer to Paga, and had the Walters attack route go behind it? That would eliminate the crossing altogether. Just a thought.

Again, this is really cool and seems to be a great play for an 8 person game, and a nice, long tactical play for 1v1.

Thanks Seamus76.

I have adjusted those items for you and will post the updated version shortly.
I'm going to re-work the text in CorelDraw so hopefully they;ll come up better.

greenoaks · Post by **greenoaks** » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:05 pm

why have you bastardised the name?

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:29 pm

greenoaks wrote:why have you bastardised the name?

If you consider it bastardised, what is your alternative, and why do you consider it bastardised?
All it is is the name in the local language - Tok Pisin - which i would have thought quite appropriate.

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:48 pm

cairnswk wrote:
greenoaks wrote:why have you bastardised the name?

If you consider it bastardised, what is your alternative, and why do you consider it bastardised?
All it is is the name in the local language - Tok Pisin - which i would have thought quite appropriate.

I'm with cairnswk (naturally) I thought it made the map more ethnic/reflective of the area depicted.

-Sully

greenoaks · Post by **greenoaks** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:08 am

cairnswk wrote:
greenoaks wrote:why have you bastardised the name?

If you consider it bastardised, what is your alternative, and why do you consider it bastardised?
All it is is the name in the local language - Tok Pisin - which i would have thought quite appropriate.

what it is is the locals failed attempt to pronounce Port Moresby (Pot Mosbi)

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:59 am

greenoaks wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
greenoaks wrote:why have you bastardised the name?

If you consider it bastardised, what is your alternative, and why do you consider it bastardised?
All it is is the name in the local language - Tok Pisin - which i would have thought quite appropriate.

what it is is the locals failed attempt to pronounce Port Moresby (Pot Mosbi)

Mmmm, that'sa very Aussie way of looking at it. :-s

greenoaks · Post by **greenoaks** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:02 am

cairnswk wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
greenoaks wrote:why have you bastardised the name?

If you consider it bastardised, what is your alternative, and why do you consider it bastardised?
All it is is the name in the local language - Tok Pisin - which i would have thought quite appropriate.

what it is is the locals failed attempt to pronounce Port Moresby (Pot Mosbi)

Mmmm, that'sa very Aussie way of looking at it.

not at all. the place was named by an englishman after his father, Admiral Moresby

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