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forestwalker · Post by **forestwalker** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:29 pm

You might also consider Modoc instead of Lassen for the northeast corner territory. Mt. Lassen is well to the west of there. That area is both Modoc County and, geographically, the Modoc Plateau. Calling it Modoc would also be a nod to one of CA's native tribes.

Cascades would be a better descriptor for the neighboring territory than Mt. Shasta: describes the whole region rather than just one mountain that doesn't really dominate the area.

Vlasov · Post by **Vlasov** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:38 am

Reply to Lostatlimbo: Great photos! However, I would point out that those dry brown foothills in the second photo turn green in the winter and spring. Also, the cattle in the foreground of the photo are obviously grazing on something! The irrigated parts of the San Joaquin Valley, from Redding to Bakersfield, are in fact "green" most of the year -- and they produce fruits and nuts and vegetables for the entire nation, as well as grass and fodder for livestock.

But you are correct -- the forests of the Sierra Nevada are certainly "greener" than most of the valley, and most of it looks yellowish.

P.S. I have lived in the southern San Joaquin ("Central") Valley for over 30 years.

Note to Forestwalker: TBK's previous name for that tert was "No Name" -- I think "Zzyzx" represents the extreme, scattered, desolate places in that part of the Mojave Desert; plus it's a strikingly unusual name. However, your suggestion of Joshua Tree would be my second choice.

"Modoc" is also a good idea.

forestwalker · Post by **forestwalker** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:34 pm

Well, sure, Zzyzx is a very cool name. But it's like calling the Gulf of Mexico "Drilling Platform #47;" it's extremely obscure and not representative of the region overall. And it'll elicit a lot of "wth is that?", even from 90% of Californians. If we're shooting for accuracy, of course, the area should probably be called Army's Playground, Methland, or Hell's Front Porch.

Vlasov · Post by **Vlasov** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:13 pm

LOL..... "Methland" certainly suggests something...

lostatlimbo · Post by **lostatlimbo** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:31 pm

forestwalker wrote:Good looking map and represents my state well. I'd only suggest that Zzyzx is an EXTREMELY tiny and obscure place. How about Mojave, Joshua Tree, or Fort Irwin as the name for that region? (most of that area IS Fort Irwin, which is why it's a big blank on maps)

I tried fighting that battle early on. Good luck. :)

lostatlimbo · Post by **lostatlimbo** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:36 pm

forestwalker wrote:Well, sure, Zzyzx is a very cool name. But it's like calling the Gulf of Mexico "Drilling Platform #47;" it's extremely obscure and not representative of the region overall. And it'll elicit a lot of "wth is that?", even from 90% of Californians. If we're shooting for accuracy, of course, the area should probably be called Army's Playground, Methland, or Hell's Front Porch.

LOL at Methland.

Fort Irwin would be ideal. Or China Lake.

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:15 pm

forestwalker wrote:You might also consider Modoc instead of Lassen for the northeast corner territory. Mt. Lassen is well to the west of there. That area is both Modoc County and, geographically, the Modoc Plateau. Calling it Modoc would also be a nod to one of CA's native tribes.

Cascades would be a better descriptor for the neighboring territory than Mt. Shasta: describes the whole region rather than just one mountain that doesn't really dominate the area.

Modoc sounds good, we can do that. I can do Cascades but I heard there are tribes of hippies that worship Mt. Shasta as a god. I thought that was really neat so I wanted to include Shasta as a territory.

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:48 pm

[bigimg]http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/223/californiaupload.jpg[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1262/californiasmallupload.jpg[/bigimg]

Ok here's the (hopefully) final name changes

Jackson=San Andreas
Lassen=Modoc

I rearranged the type in San Andreas Victor so you are going to need to change the coordinate in that territory in the XML. Oh, and also Sacramento. I moved the city star down a little bit too,

Bruceswar · Post by **Bruceswar** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:30 pm

What do you have against Fort Irwin?

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:28 pm

Bruceswar wrote:What do you have against Fort Irwin?

Nothing I just like ZZYZX more.

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:31 pm

Dang, alright. The computer with the file on it is in the shop for the weekend. I should have it back by Monday afternoon-evening if all goes well.

-Sully

isaiah40 · Post by **isaiah40** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:40 pm

The Bison King wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:What do you have against Fort Irwin?

Nothing I just like ZZYZX more.

Keep Zzyzx, sounds like someone sleeping at the wheel while driving through that part of California.

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:42 pm

isaiah40 wrote:
The Bison King wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:What do you have against Fort Irwin?

Nothing I just like ZZYZX more.

Keep Zzyzx, sounds like someone sleeping at the wheel while driving through that part of California.

Or trying not to sleep, so they don't crash and die!

-Sully

ender516 · Post by **ender516** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:05 am

I like that "Zzyzx" was invented in a blatant attempt to be alphabetically last.

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:07 am

ender516 wrote:I like that "Zzyzx" was invented in a blatant attempt to be alphabetically last.

Haha, I know, right?

-Sully

Vlasov · Post by **Vlasov** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:59 am

Don't forget to change "Napa Valley" (in gray) to "Santa Rosa" at the top (Northern Coast boundary) on the Bay Area inset map.

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:00 pm

Vlasov wrote:Don't forget to change "Napa Valley" (in gray) to "Santa Rosa" at the top (Northern Coast boundary) on the Bay Area inset map.

oh duh, thanks!

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:22 pm

WTF IS GOING ON!!!!!!!

I'm trying to upload the file as a TIFF cause I hate the way the upload washes out the color but whenever I load a Tiff it looks like this:

WHY THE F IS THIS HAPPENING??!??!?!?!?!?

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:48 pm

*shrugs* Photobucket won't even let me upload tiffs.

-Sully

thenobodies80 · Post by **thenobodies80** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:33 am

The Bison King wrote:I'm trying to upload the file as a TIFF cause I hate the way the upload washes out the color

Save it as a png file and you colors won't change.

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:47 am

PNG! got it... I forgot which one, for some reason I got it in my head it needed to be a tiff. That should save me some frustration. Though I'd still like to know why it did that.

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:06 pm

The Bison King wrote:PNG! got it... I forgot which one, for some reason I got it in my head it needed to be a tiff. That should save me some frustration. Though I'd still like to know why it did that.

Filists, I suppose. Damn you, file-discriminatory websites!!

On a side note, my desktop's still in the shop. They said some piece in the hard-drive isn't moving right, or something. If worse comes to worse, I can re-do it. I might have an old version on the laptop.

-Sully

ender516 · Post by **ender516** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:43 am

Victor, if you are talking about updating the XML, why do you need the version on your desktop? Can't you just grab the live beta version from http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/California.xml?

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:47 pm

ender516 wrote:Victor, if you are talking about updating the XML, why do you need the version on your desktop? Can't you just grab the live beta version from http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/California.xml?

How do I get it back to the editable format, though? :oops:

-Sully

ender516 · Post by **ender516** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:28 am

Oh, if you are using Firefox, then it is displaying the code and saying:

This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.

Okay. Then from the View menu, select Page Source (or just press Ctrl-U). Then you end up in a window entitled Source of http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/California.xml. This is a basic editor window, where you can select Save As... from the File menu. Put the file where you want, then open that file with whatever editor you like.

If you are using IE, then select Source from the View menu. On my machine, I got the source in a Notepad window. Again, Save As... and you are ready to rock and roll (or swing that smooth jazz, if I recall your musical taste).

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