California [Quenched]

ender516 · Post by **ender516** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:52 am

Check Wikipedia for "Inland Empire" and "Zzyzx". They are real names used in the areas.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:00 pm

ender516 wrote:Check Wikipedia for "Inland Empire" and "Zzyzx". They are real names used in the areas.

Thanks enders516. i luv it when one learns something cool everyday.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:41 pm

cairnswk wrote:
ender516 wrote:Check Wikipedia for "Inland Empire" and "Zzyzx". They are real names used in the areas.

Thanks enders516. i luv it when one learns something cool everyday.

i was stunned when i first saw Zzyzx because i'm watching a tv series where there's an evil corporation called Zzyx. so my first thought was OMG WTF :lol:

then i googled and realised that location is actually real.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:50 pm

cairnswk wrote:
ender516 wrote:Check Wikipedia for "Inland Empire" and "Zzyzx". They are real names used in the areas.

Thanks enders516. i luv it when one learns something cool everyday.

I can confirm that California has some strange names for places.

--Andy

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:39 pm

I'll do a big update later tonight.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:30 pm

This map is gorgeous. I love it. =D>

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:13 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:You need a title like this... At least in that block letter style.

I feel like he tried this at one point, but I forget...

-Sully

Yeah we tried this earlier on, couldn't really get it to work out though.

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:43 pm

Ok when I said "big changes" I more meant a lot of little changes. The ones mentioned above mostly by Cairns

[bigimg]http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/223/californiaupload.jpg[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1262/californiasmallupload.jpg[/bigimg]

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:47 pm

The new color for the Central Valley text isn't quite working for me... Perhaps go with a darker Bay Area text (since - at least to me - the land area looks more to me like a brown than an orange), then a more orange cast to the original text color? I feel like that would make it look more like the color of the land area.

-Sully

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:37 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:The new color for the Central Valley text isn't quite working for me... Perhaps go with a darker Bay Area text (since - at least to me - the land area looks more to me like a brown than an orange), then a more orange cast to the original text color? I feel like that would make it look more like the color of the land area.

-Sully

I don't know man, I can't have them match up exactly. I think they look fine.

natty dread · Post by **natty dread** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:15 am

What you should do is replace the white glow of the bonus names with a shadow similar to the territory names. Then you can make the colours match.

Vlasov · Post by **Vlasov** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:29 am

I wonder if you could add Santa Catalina Island to the "Channel Islands" territory. It lies farther southeast of the other three islands along the coast, but it has a town (Avalon) and is a major tourist site. The northern islands are a National Park, and are basically uninhabited.

In fact, many Californians refer to that little archipelago as "the Catalinas", and "going to Catalina" means taking the one-hour ferry trip to Avalon. The boats depart from five ports in LA and Orange Counties. To reflect that, you could make an additional (dotted) sea connection within "Channel Islands" to Santa Catalina, and thence to the territory of "Santa Ana" -- but I suppose that might affect the gameplay a little...

Another uninhabited chunk of rock, San Clemente Island, lies even farther south (and actually west of northern San Diego County)... but it would be too much, to connect that far. Just some idle thoughts. I can't wait to play this map!

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:18 am

natty_dread wrote:What you should do is replace the white glow of the bonus names with a shadow similar to the territory names. Then you can make the colours match.

Honestly, I have know idea why I hadn't thought of that before.

[bigimg]http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9196/californiauploade.jpg[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/1262/californiasmallupload.jpg[/bigimg]

Vlasov wrote:I wonder if you could add Santa Catalina Island to the "Channel Islands" territory. It lies farther southeast of the other three islands along the coast, but it has a town (Avalon) and is a major tourist site. The northern islands are a National Park, and are basically uninhabited.

In fact, many Californians refer to that little archipelago as "the Catalinas", and "going to Catalina" means taking the one-hour ferry trip to Avalon. The boats depart from five ports in LA and Orange Counties. To reflect that, you could make an additional (dotted) sea connection within "Channel Islands" to Santa Catalina, and thence to the territory of "Santa Ana" -- but I suppose that might affect the gameplay a little...

Another uninhabited chunk of rock, San Clemente Island, lies even farther south (and actually west of northern San Diego County)... but it would be too much, to connect that far. Just some idle thoughts. I can't wait to play this map!

No I'm not really adding territories or changing where they attack at this point. However I'm not opposed to changing the name "Channel Islands" to "The Catalinas" If that is appropriate. It does have a much nicer ring to it.

natty dread · Post by **natty dread** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:02 am

The Bison King wrote:Honestly, I have know idea why I hadn't thought of that before.

Probably because you're not as smart as me.

JK LOL! The outcome looks much better though.

ender516 · Post by **ender516** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:45 pm

The Bison King wrote:However I'm not opposed to changing the name "Channel Islands" to "The Catalinas" If that is appropriate. It does have a much nicer ring to it.

♫ Twenty-six miles across the sea
Santa Catalina is a-waitin' for me ♫
♩ Santa Catalina, the island of romance
Romance, romance, romance ♫♩♫

I agree that the dark shadow greatly improves the legend text.

natty dread · Post by **natty dread** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:54 pm

Now this might be an optical illusion, but it looks to me the intervals between the bonus names are not even... Los Angeles at least seems to be a few pixels too high...

pamoa · Post by **pamoa** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:41 am

about your bonus legend and the name order
in a list I always recommend to respect the left-right top-bottom reading order
in your case this would mean
Northern Coast
Northern Cali
Bay Area
Central Valley
Sierra Nevada
Central Coast
Los Angeles
Mojave Desert

ender516 · Post by **ender516** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:00 pm

pamoa wrote:about your bonus legend and the name order
in a list I always recommend to respect the left-right top-bottom reading order
in your case this would mean
Northern Coast
Northern Cali
Bay Area
Central Valley
Sierra Nevada
Central Coast
Los Angeles
Mojave Desert

I agree. The current order might be argued to follow the left-right, top-bottom rules, depending on how you draw a line across the map, but I think pamoa's order is a bit cleaner with less bouncing around.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:51 pm

The Bison King wrote:Ok when I said "big changes" I more meant a lot of little changes. The ones mentioned above mostly by Cairns
...

Thanks for attending to those.
Also the legend looks much better with the dark outline.

lostatlimbo · Post by **lostatlimbo** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:36 pm

Looking forward to playing this map soon. Still wish I could have talked you into a different title font. :)

OliverFA · Post by **OliverFA** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:33 pm

[Adding XML stamp]

After checking the XML file, I am glad to confirm that everything in the code seems to be right.

Congratulations Victor!

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:34 pm

OliverFA wrote:[Adding XML stamp]

After checking the XML file, I am glad to confirm that everything in the code seems to be right.

Congratulations Victor!

Hey alright! Way to go Vic!

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:23 pm

The Bison King wrote:
OliverFA wrote:[Adding XML stamp]

After checking the XML file, I am glad to confirm that everything in the code seems to be right.

Congratulations Victor!

Hey alright! Way to go Vic!

I'm honored that my XML gets Oliver's first stamp!

-Sully

OliverFA · Post by **OliverFA** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:40 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:
The Bison King wrote:
OliverFA wrote:[Adding XML stamp]

After checking the XML file, I am glad to confirm that everything in the code seems to be right.

Congratulations Victor!

Hey alright! Way to go Vic!

I'm honored that my XML gets Oliver's first stamp!

-Sully

The honour it's mutual

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:55 pm

OliverFA wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:
The Bison King wrote:
OliverFA wrote:[Adding XML stamp]

After checking the XML file, I am glad to confirm that everything in the code seems to be right.

Congratulations Victor!

Hey alright! Way to go Vic!

I'm honored that my XML gets Oliver's first stamp!

-Sully

The honour it's mutual

Honor for everyone!!!

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