Titanic wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Titanic wrote:Most of teh one sided embarrassment ehre is just on the political front. On the real areas of cooperation, like intelligence, military and business there is a much more two way relationship.
It sure doesn't read that way.
I don't know if Vidukn Quisling himself ever told Hitler he was going to put in a "pro-German regime in Norway."
I think (until more cables are released - maybe I'm wrong) that France can at least fire their own nuclear weapons without a permission slip from the American viceroy.
Titanic wrote: We have more important allies politically nowadays,
There's the spirit!
The Sun never sets, etc., blah blah blah ...
Trident is a waste of money imo anyway, I don't agree that we should have nuclear weapons at all, what exactly do they provide us with that we don't have already? Btw, saying we have more important allies is not an imperial thing, just a shifting of our focus to Europe rather then the USA or the entire world.
I agree Trident is a waste of money. But, as WikiLeaks demonstrated, it's a garbage pail Downing Street will keep shoveling cash into as long as Grosvenor Square keeps issuing orders to do so.
As for shifting focus to Europe, the UK sure has. Nigel Farage keeps complaining the US is pushing the UK to integrate more into the EU. If the trend of these WikiLeaks cables is correct these haven't been suggestions from Washington, rather, marching orders that have been obeyed to the T.
As Václav Klaus noted a year ago, the US' weird interest in more integration in Europe is coming across like a shepherd herding all his sheep into a single pen. I think WikiLeaks is showing Klaus was correct. I hope Britain wakes-up before shearing season. More true now that the RN is dwindling down to less than 20 surface ships, all - apparently - under the control of SACEUR. When the leadership of both the governing and opposition parties in a country are dutifully reporting to a foreign ambassador pledging to enforce a "Pro-US Regime", said country no longer meets any objective definition of an independent nation-state. It's a client, plain and simple. Britons should take back their country and choose not to be slaves to foreign potentates. The UK is bankrupt. It can't afford tribute payments to Washington (AKA Trident).
