Clan League: Season 3 - Info, Q&A

[danryan]

Is there a rule that says TOFU can only start in 5 out of the 18 games?

That's the rule we requested for Season 2!!! We could have used that one.

[jpcloet]

is there a 12 hour rule in the league for fog games?

NO

Home clans are asked to fill the games within 3 days and Away clans are asked to join within 4 days once the home team has joined first.

Home team takes the risk on fog if they choose they want to take that risk.

[chemefreak]

Is there a rule that says TOFU can only start in 5 out of the 18 games?

What a whiny little brat! I almost didn't notice this...perhaps this is what your clan gets for being scared to join games...even its own home games? Hehe...WOO GOO!!!

[Chariot of Fire]

Are you talking about the games that you were adamant you sent me and were in fact sitting in your Drafts folder for a week?

No whining here - just making a poignant observation that it was pretty crappy luck on our part that you guys got to start in 13 of the 18 games. I thought you might have been a bit more magnanimous and said "Yeah, we got lucky there" but alas, no.

Notice I didn't whine either about you giving us a different set of games than those posted in the order thread (since edited by you).

So really I'm a fair man - far from a 'whiny little brat'. Thanks for that!

[Gold Knight]

Are you talking about the games that you were adamant you sent me and were in fact sitting in your Drafts folder for a week?

No whining here - just making a poignant observation that it was pretty crappy luck on our part that you guys got to start in 13 of the 18 games. I thought you might have been a bit more magnanimous and said "Yeah, we got lucky there" but alas, no.

Notice I didn't whine either about you giving us a different set of games than those posted in the order thread (since edited by you).

So really I'm a fair man - far from a 'whiny little brat'. Thanks for that!

Do you ever stop complaining?!?!?!?

[pmchugh]

Are you talking about the games that you were adamant you sent me and were in fact sitting in your Drafts folder for a week?

No whining here - just making a poignant observation that it was pretty crappy luck on our part that you guys got to start in 13 of the 18 games. I thought you might have been a bit more magnanimous and said "Yeah, we got lucky there" but alas, no.

Notice I didn't whine either about you giving us a different set of games than those posted in the order thread (since edited by you).

So really I'm a fair man - far from a 'whiny little brat'. Thanks for that!

Do you ever stop complaining?!?!?!?

No offense CoF but why would you even count that?

[Chariot of Fire]

Count what, the game starts? Makes a big difference, esp in the types of game that Legion favour (a lot of conquest style maps, along with some where immediate bonuses kick in and one can deprive the oppo of theirs). Of their 9 home games we got to start in 1 - that's when I noticed. I'm not moaning about it though, in fact I was making a joke about it. It can't be helped and it's nobody's fault.

[Gold Knight]

Count what, the game starts? Makes a big difference, esp in the types of game that Legion favour (a lot of conquest style maps, along with some where immediate bonuses kick in and one can deprive the oppo of theirs). Of their 9 home games we got to start in 1 - that's when I noticed. I'm not moaning about it though, in fact I was making a joke about it. It can't be helped and it's nobody's fault.

Blame JP, that's what everyone else does. Ya know, its probably due to his shitty ladders and his quest to standardize clan events. What a prick... Just joking JP, we all love your shitty ladders.

[the.killing.44]

Are you talking about the games that you were adamant you sent me and were in fact sitting in your Drafts folder for a week?

No whining here - just making a poignant observation that it was pretty crappy luck on our part that you guys got to start in 13 of the 18 games. I thought you might have been a bit more magnanimous and said "Yeah, we got lucky there" but alas, no.

Notice I didn't whine either about you giving us a different set of games than those posted in the order thread (since edited by you).

So really I'm a fair man - far from a 'whiny little brat'. Thanks for that!

Do you ever stop complaining?!?!?!?

No offense CoF but why would you even count that?

Haha, are you kidding?

[chemefreak]

Are you talking about the games that you were adamant you sent me and were in fact sitting in your Drafts folder for a week?

No whining here - just making a poignant observation that it was pretty crappy luck on our part that you guys got to start in 13 of the 18 games. I thought you might have been a bit more magnanimous and said "Yeah, we got lucky there" but alas, no.

Notice I didn't whine either about you giving us a different set of games than those posted in the order thread (since edited by you).

So really I'm a fair man - far from a 'whiny little brat'. Thanks for that!

I hope you know I'm just teasing you, Si. This set is showing just how much drop and turn order can influence a few games here and there. (Oh, and yes, we got a bit lucky with the turn order.) Hell, it looks like we are going to win your home games, and you are going to win ours...overall record should be close...always a challenge and a pleasure to play TOFU, that is for sure. As for the pm, I apologized for that and the game making, if it were that big of deal (i did it on accident...we didn't want to throw a PR at you) I am allowed under the rules to remake the game...anyway, who wants to play two CM in the same challenge anyway? Lates.

[Chariot of Fire]

No worries mate. I thought you were accusing me of moaning when in fact I never said a word about it. I only posted the stat here in jest.

And yes...it's gonna be close. Either 9-9 or 10-8 (either way) by my calculations.

[Masli]

Hello all,

just a reminder for everybody of 1 of the rules this year :

In each challenge week of 18 games, a minimum of 10 players must be used, and one player cannot play more than 6 games.

we already had to punish 1 clan for using a player for more then 6 times in 1 week !

[Qwert]

masli who its that?

[jpcloet]

No need to point out who it was, but I will tell you that a player was in 8 games in a single week. Masli's post is simply a reminder of the rules.

[Qwert]

what its penalty?
Its play 8 games,and how will you decide what two game need to be declare loss?

[jpcloet]

We chose the last 2 games started by the clock.

[danryan]

I went back through my games to double check. Whew it wasn't me.

[jpcloet]

Both the home team and away team were contacted.

On a side note, there are quite a few Week 3 games in Div A that need to be filled.

[chemefreak]

[quote="jpcloet"On a side note, there are quite a few Week 3 games in Div A that need to be filled.[/quote]

Here's looking at you LoW

[jpcloet]

Both the home team and away team were contacted.

We had another violation recently, both teams were contacted and 2 default wins were issued.

Please be more careful in distributing games. The max games in any 18 game play week is 6 games per player.

[amazzony]

What happens if clan won't fill their home games in the given 3 days?

[jpcloet]

The CD's will send reminders. Unless there is a major issue, we're trying not to default games.

[Timminz]

What is the Clan League's official stance on intentional deadbeating?

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One of the biggest reasons to play with a clan, in competitions such as this, is to play high-quality games, against high-quality opponents. When I see people doing stuff like this, it irks me. I have lost pretty much any respect I might have had for the Grim Reapers, and while I can't speak for my entire clan, I can say with certainty that I will never participate in another challenge against them, and I will actively encourage the rest of Generation One to say the same, if the question ever arises.


And all to win a game that will be negligible to the standings.

[Chariot of Fire]

Do you really think that was an intentional deadbeat (serious question, as I've never actually witnessed one before)? Seems a bloody funny way of going about winning a game, missing 3 consecutive turns (and the 3 extra cards that would have given him a trade by now) and giving green 53 terrs when one only needs 36 to receive the maximum allowable deploy (excluding bonuses). Sure I can see the advantage that green suddenly has now, but with 3 missed turns having gone by (on Hive) I thought you'd have creamed them by now. How many cards was red holding?

There is the possibility someone was sitting his account but only playing turns in the games he was involved in with Moop - that often happens. Or maybe the sitter entered the Hive game, took one look at the map and vomited on his keyboard.

It is a seriously cheap tactic if it was done deliberately, but given the amount of cards that must have been in red and green's hands individually it seems both very risky and very unnecessary.

[eddie2]

Do you really think that was an intentional deadbeat (serious question, as I've never actually witnessed one before)? Seems a bloody funny way of going about winning a game, missing 3 consecutive turns (and the 3 extra cards that would have given him a trade by now) and giving green 53 terrs when one only needs 36 to receive the maximum allowable deploy (excluding bonuses). Sure I can see the advantage that green suddenly has now, but with 3 missed turns having gone by (on Hive) I thought you'd have creamed them by now. How many cards was red holding?

There is the possibility someone was sitting his account but only playing turns in the games he was involved in with Moop - that often happens. Or maybe the sitter entered the Hive game, took one look at the map and vomited on his keyboard.

It is a seriously cheap tactic if it was done deliberately, but given the amount of cards that must have been in red and green's hands individually it seems both very risky and very unnecessary.

It can make all the difference on Hive especially fog because you cannot see the players terts. also since the main strat on this map is to lower deploy you can gain a big advantage by having 2 cashes. in one shot.