Web 2.0

[sickfest_au]

Everything on this website feels clunky, slow and outdated. I've been using CC for years. It's time for an upgrade. When is this happening? I'm not paying my money for nothing.

[jrh_cardinal]

CC has gotten much faster recently, along with other updates both ingame, and for tournaments/clans/other forum areas. I agree that some of the graphics around the site could look better, but I'd rather have an "old-fashioned" looking site that has good new features that I can actually use rather than some pretty, frilly site with poorer content

[sickfest_au]

CC has gotten much faster recently, along with other updates both ingame, and for tournaments/clans/other forum areas. I agree that some of the graphics around the site could look better, but I'd rather have an "old-fashioned" looking site that has good new features that I can actually use rather than some pretty, frilly site with poorer content

That's not my point, it's not even about graphics. It's user-bility. Why do I have to keep typing in my username and password on entry? Why are there two menus that seemingly don't link at all? Why is the start page utterly useless and I have to click to go into my games? It should already be there. There are many many things like this. It's time for a massive upgrade. Where did my 30 dollars go? Where does everyones 30 dollars go? Not into website development that's for sure.

[TheForgivenOne]

CC has gotten much faster recently, along with other updates both ingame, and for tournaments/clans/other forum areas. I agree that some of the graphics around the site could look better, but I'd rather have an "old-fashioned" looking site that has good new features that I can actually use rather than some pretty, frilly site with poorer content

That's not my point, it's not even about graphics. It's user-bility. Why do I have to keep typing in my username and password on entry? Why are there two menus that seemingly don't link at all? Why is the start page utterly useless and I have to click to go into my games? It should already be there. There are many many things like this. It's time for a massive upgrade. Where did my 30 dollars go? Where does everyones 30 dollars go? Not into website development that's for sure.

And I really don't think you realize how much time and effort it would take. The webmaster is currently by himself in doing updates, and he's a very busy man, from what i know.

A. The Home page is for new users who come to the site. Does it bother you THAT much that you have to click "My Games", which takes about 2 seconds?

B. Every browser already have a "Save Username/Password" feature that I have come along, including IE, Firefox, Google Chrome, Safari, Flock, Opera, and a few others. Unless you already hit "Never remember for this site", you should have been prompted the first time you entered your password. I personally haven't typed in my password for a long long time because of this.

C. Which 2 menu's are you referring to? Home - Takes you to the basic spot you see when you log on. Instructions - Takes you to the instructions and overview of the site. Scoreboard - Do I really have to explain this? Tournaments - Shows you available tournaments that you can join. Forums - Ta-da! You are here. Rules - Pretty obvious too, the rules. Shop - For those TRUE CC fans who wants to buy their loved one a gift. Help - For those who need Help.

Now on the left. My Games - You know where this takes you. Join a Game - Lets you join games . Start a Game - Let's you start a game on settings/map you want. Game Finder - Lets you find a specific game, or games that you want to look at. Live Chat - Takes you to a place where you can talk in Real Time with other CC users. Inbox - This is a place where you can PM other users, and look at your PM's. Wall - Lets you look at your profile, and any comments you have. etc etc

I'd go on, but i'm a busy guy. Please be more specific on what you are referring to. I'd much rather have the busy webmaster create new and better game options than make the site look a teeny bit better to the eye. Personally, I like how it looks, it's simple, not any horrible colors, and quite easy to navigate.

[Metsfanmax]

I'd much rather have the busy webmaster create new and better game options than make the site look a teeny bit better to the eye. Personally, I like how it looks, it's simple, not any horrible colors, and quite easy to navigate.

QFT

[sickfest_au]

How are you possibly arguing against this? Are you against change for the better?

[Metsfanmax]

How are you possibly arguing against this? Are you against change for the better?

If you paid attention to what he said, you'd notice he is for change for the better. The point is that there are two ways to make the site "better:" one is to make it prettier, and the other is to add new and exciting gameplay options. Since the webmaster has a finite amount of time, we both believe he should spend his time on the latter, since it is more important.

[sickfest_au]

I believe that I am paying 30 dollars for him to do both.

[Metsfanmax]

I believe that I am paying 30 dollars for him to do both.

Well, believe it or not, 25 dollars is not a lot of money. If you want him to hire a team of programmers to make the website look better, you'd better start forking in a lot more money.

At any rate, you're paying 25 dollars to play unlimited games (which is so much better than any other site I know, for example the chess websites I visit, where premium members who pay more than $40 per year can only play 30 games at once). Don't even start to say that if Lack can't do every update you want him to because he simply doesn't have the time, that you're not getting what you pay for. $25 is a huge bargain for what CC offers.

[TheForgivenOne]

I believe that I am paying 30 dollars for him to do both.

Do you want me to repeat myself?

And I really don't think you realize how much time and effort it would take. The webmaster is currently by himself in doing updates, and he's a very busy man, from what i know

I'd much rather have the busy webmaster create new and better game options than make the site look a teeny bit better to the eye.

Doing a MASSIVE rework of the site isn't as easy as you think it is, considering how many different pages he'd have to update.

lackattack has a REAL LIFE I know! But it's true, he does have things to do AWAY from his computer, so he actually doesn't spend 24 hours a day at his computer. Oh did you ALSO know, he has more than 1 site he manages? This may be his main website, but he can't dedicate ALL his time here, and completely ignore the other websites. He fixes bugs that pop up on the site, which can make the site in a whole slow down, become clunky, or even crash it. He, from my knowledge, has spent a lot of time trying to create tools and gadgets that make the website in a whole way better, including new options, reduce lag, etc etc. Also, there are about 20k users here, not every single user buys premium, and for the few that do, he has to spend that money paying to keep the site up, pay the admins, and a few other things.

Do you really think that he has nothing to spend the money on that comes from the premiums?

I say it AGAIN, I would RATHER much have a website that has more settings, then a website with very few settings but a pretty design. If you could have 1, which would you pick?

[Metsfanmax]

I say it AGAIN, I would RATHER much have a website that has more settings, then a website with very few settings but a pretty design. If you could have 1, which would you pick?

He would pick both

[drunkmonkey]

lackattack has a REAL LIFE I know! But it's true, he does have things to do AWAY from his computer, so he actually doesn't spend 24 hours a day at his computer. Oh did you ALSO know, he has more than 1 site he manages? This may be his main website, but he can't dedicate ALL his time here, and completely ignore the other websites.

TFO, I agree with you for the most part, but wish you would throw out this argument. Telling paying customers that lack can't fix everything because he has a life & other projects doesn't send a great message.

[blakebowling]

lackattack has a REAL LIFE I know! But it's true, he does have things to do AWAY from his computer, so he actually doesn't spend 24 hours a day at his computer. Oh did you ALSO know, he has more than 1 site he manages? This may be his main website, but he can't dedicate ALL his time here, and completely ignore the other websites.

TFO, I agree with you for the most part, but wish you would throw out this argument. Telling paying customers that lack can't fix everything because he has a life & other projects doesn't send a great message.

I have nothing against lack, and he has built a great site and a good community here at conquerclub, however he is not forced to do the work by himself. I have offered my services in several categories a few times, as have others. It is his CHOICE to code the majority of CC by himself.

[Night Strike]

lackattack has a REAL LIFE I know! But it's true, he does have things to do AWAY from his computer, so he actually doesn't spend 24 hours a day at his computer. Oh did you ALSO know, he has more than 1 site he manages? This may be his main website, but he can't dedicate ALL his time here, and completely ignore the other websites.

TFO, I agree with you for the most part, but wish you would throw out this argument. Telling paying customers that lack can't fix everything because he has a life & other projects doesn't send a great message.

Actually, outside his 40-hour work week (or whatever he chooses to work each week), he IS allowed to have a life. Just because he owns and operates the site doesn't mean he has to spend all of his waking hours on it. He's already on-call 24/7 for emergencies (like when the site crashes).

[Woodruff]

CC has gotten much faster recently, along with other updates both ingame, and for tournaments/clans/other forum areas. I agree that some of the graphics around the site could look better, but I'd rather have an "old-fashioned" looking site that has good new features that I can actually use rather than some pretty, frilly site with poorer content

That's not my point, it's not even about graphics. It's user-bility. Why do I have to keep typing in my username and password on entry? Why are there two menus that seemingly don't link at all? Why is the start page utterly useless and I have to click to go into my games? It should already be there. There are many many things like this. It's time for a massive upgrade. Where did my 30 dollars go? Where does everyones 30 dollars go? Not into website development that's for sure.

I'm confused...I don't have to "keep typing in my username and password on entry"...I believe you can fix this with a web-browser setting.

Which two menus "seemingly don't link at all"?

The start page isn't at all utterly useless...why do you believe it is?

Why do you have to click to go into your game? Well...because the site doesn't read your mind, automagically knowing which game you'd like to enter first.

As others have already said, I would far prefer to have the website move on improvements to the gaming pleasure, rather than to the viewing pleasure.

How are you possibly arguing against this? Are you against change for the better?

It's a matter of choice. The Suggestions forum is rife with huge numbers of incredibly good suggestions...but there's only so much time. And the more time that is spent on making the site look pretty and new-fangled, the less time is spent on those incredibly good suggestions.

[drunkmonkey]

lackattack has a REAL LIFE I know! But it's true, he does have things to do AWAY from his computer, so he actually doesn't spend 24 hours a day at his computer. Oh did you ALSO know, he has more than 1 site he manages? This may be his main website, but he can't dedicate ALL his time here, and completely ignore the other websites.

TFO, I agree with you for the most part, but wish you would throw out this argument. Telling paying customers that lack can't fix everything because he has a life & other projects doesn't send a great message.

Actually, outside his 40-hour work week (or whatever he chooses to work each week), he IS allowed to have a life. Just because he owns and operates the site doesn't mean he has to spend all of his waking hours on it. He's already on-call 24/7 for emergencies (like when the site crashes).

I never said he couldn't have a life, nor did I say he had to spend all of his time on this site. Imagine calling any other company (as a customer), asking for support/suggesting improvements, and being told, "Sorry, but I have a life outside this company, not to mention other jobs. I can't cater to your every desire." That response makes it sound like this is just a hobby.

[Metsfanmax]

lackattack has a REAL LIFE I know! But it's true, he does have things to do AWAY from his computer, so he actually doesn't spend 24 hours a day at his computer. Oh did you ALSO know, he has more than 1 site he manages? This may be his main website, but he can't dedicate ALL his time here, and completely ignore the other websites.

TFO, I agree with you for the most part, but wish you would throw out this argument. Telling paying customers that lack can't fix everything because he has a life & other projects doesn't send a great message.

Actually, outside his 40-hour work week (or whatever he chooses to work each week), he IS allowed to have a life. Just because he owns and operates the site doesn't mean he has to spend all of his waking hours on it. He's already on-call 24/7 for emergencies (like when the site crashes).

I never said he couldn't have a life, nor did I say he had to spend all of his time on this site. Imagine calling any other company (as a customer), asking for support/suggesting improvements, and being told, "Sorry, but I have a life outside this company, not to mention other jobs. I can't cater to your every desire." That response makes it sound like this is just a hobby.

That analogy is hardly relevant, because Lack doesn't earn quite enough revenue from this site to have a technical support calling center, I imagine...

[drunkmonkey]

Not really. Even if I bought a little $20 app somewhere, I wouldn't want to hear that response from the developer.

(Before anyone asks - yes, I realize lack never said any of this; it was just said by someone else on his behalf.)

[Darwins_Bane]

i disagree with you. I feel that it was a personal opinion. Regardless, I don't know if it's true or not, nor do i know exactly how many hours lack puts in a week. But having worked in a tech department before, I can tell you that if there were 8 people still not everything could get done, and he's just one man. I think lack is a miracle worker.

[Army of GOD]

I'd much rather have the busy webmaster create new and better game options than make the site look a teeny bit better to the eye.

I feel like anyone who has a brain would agree with this, but am I the only one who feels like the last two "Feature" updates have been the most random, pointless updates you can think of?

"Skip game"...? It took me forever to realize what bruceswar was talking about in that thread he created which suggested this idea, because I didn't know people actually clicked that "take me to my next playable game" link. I don't really get the point of the update though, because is clicking to My Games and then clicking on another game that much of a hassle?

"Teammate spoils"...? Ok, so, it's not completely useless, but there was really no need for it. People could just communicate their spoils in team chat.

Andy keeps hinting to a huge update coming up eventually, but it honestly seems like it's taking too long.

[Woodruff]

I'd much rather have the busy webmaster create new and better game options than make the site look a teeny bit better to the eye.

I feel like anyone who has a brain would agree with this, but am I the only one who feels like the last two "Feature" updates have been the most random, pointless updates you can think of?
"Skip game"...? It took me forever to realize what bruceswar was talking about in that thread he created which suggested this idea, because I didn't know people actually clicked that "take me to my next playable game" link. I don't really get the point of the update though, because is clicking to My Games and then clicking on another game that much of a hassle?
"Teammate spoils"...? Ok, so, it's not completely useless, but there was really no need for it. People could just communicate their spoils in team chat.
Andy keeps hinting to a huge update coming up eventually, but it honestly seems like it's taking too long.

All I have to say is "Nuclear Fucking Spoils". And I mean that in the worst possible way.

[drunkmonkey]

"Skip game"...? It took me forever to realize what bruceswar was talking about in that thread he created which suggested this idea, because I didn't know people actually clicked that "take me to my next playable game" link. I don't really get the point of the update though, because is clicking to My Games and then clicking on another game that much of a hassle?

Yes. That update made jumping from game to game much simpler and quicker.

"Teammate spoils"...? Ok, so, it's not completely useless, but there was really no need for it. People could just communicate their spoils in team chat.

Yes, but again, it's so much easier to look at all the spoils in one place than scroll through the lines of chat to find the last time they posted, assuming they didn't forget. Another great update.

All I have to say is "Nuclear Fucking Spoils". And I mean that in the worst possible way.

Word.

[alex951]

i wouldn't mind some eye candy

[Woodruff]

i wouldn't mind some eye candy

You got me, what more do you need? <laughing>

[Army of GOD]

I don't know a single person that would rather those two incredibly small updates compared to adjacent attacks, killer neutrals or 12 player games...