thegreekdog wrote:Wait... is Judaism an ethnicity? I was under the impression that it was a religion. For example, I have a friend who is Jewish, but ethnically he's Polish and Ukranian.
Fathers side - Mostly Scottish with maybe a little Irish thrown in for good luck), a groups of hired mercenaries for the MacDonald Clan as we did a lot of their killing, raping, thieving etc for them. One of my cousins found out that we are descendants from royalty at one time.
Mum's side - Mostly English (don't know a lot of history here.
ViperOverLord wrote:I knew my gene pool went back to people like Henry VIII, William the Conquerer on my dad's side, but a few months back I found out that I go back to Pocahantas on my mom's side.
your gene pool can be traced back to a pond. you are 1/2 plant life 1/4 amphibian 1/8 unknown 1/8 even more murky that the previous 1/8
Father's side: English (predominantly) Scottish Welsh Irish touch of French
Mother's side: Serbian Hungarian
billy07 wrote:there's never been any foreigner's in my family.
Liar! Define "foreigner". It's impossible regardless of definition, unless you choose to only go back a (relatively) short period of time. You're a mutt, just like every other person. BILLY'S NOT PURE PEOPLE!
My father came to the US as an adult. Each generation on my mother's side has married someone from another country.. back about 4 generations. We can also trace ancestry to the Mayflower and (almost as distantly) to the Cherokees.
number of anscestors doubles with every generation, obviously, so: 4 grandparents, 8 great-gpts, 16 gt-gt-gpts, 32... etc etc.
So if we're going all the way back to norman times, then a lot of us probably have at least one shared ancestor, surely. Billy, viperoverthingy, we are related!0 I worked out once that I was very distantly related to GWB on his Walker side of the family. But then it's not a huge stretch. Even me and the parasites living in Billy07's eyelashes share a common ancestor.
heavycola wrote:number of anscestors doubles with every generation, obviously, so: 4 grandparents, 8 great-gpts, 16 gt-gt-gpts, 32... etc etc.
This is not true it has been discovered that everyone's genes came from only one male and one female about 5,000 years ago. So when you look at your ancestry if you went back far enough the number a relatives in a single generation would start to shrink until you got back to those two.
heavycola wrote:So if we're going all the way back to norman times, then a lot of us probably have at least one shared ancestor, surely. Billy, viperoverthingy, we are related!0 I worked out once that I was very distantly related to GWB on his Walker side of the family. But then it's not a huge stretch. Even me and the parasites living in Billy07's eyelashes share a common ancestor.
ViperOverLord wrote:I knew my gene pool went back to people like Henry VIII, William the Conquerer on my dad's side, but a few months back I found out that I go back to Pocahantas on my mom's side.
your gene pool can be traced back to a pond. you are 1/2 plant life 1/4 amphibian 1/8 unknown 1/8 even more murky that the previous 1/8
Poo-Bah - Gilbert and Sulivan's Mikado wrote:I am, in point of fact, a particularly haughty and exclusive person, of pre-Adamite ancestral descent. You will understand this when I tell you that I can trace my ancestry back to a protoplasmal primordial atomic globule. Consequently, my family pride is something inconceivable. I can't help it. I was born sneering.
jrl332005 wrote:This is not true it has been discovered that everyone's genes came from only one male and one female about 5,000 years ago. So when you look at your ancestry if you went back far enough the number a relatives in a single generation would start to shrink until you got back to those two.
No one has ever "discovered" that. Sure, lots of folks like to claim that's the case, but it's been shown to be false many times over.
jrl332005 wrote:This is not true it has been discovered that everyone's genes came from only one male and one female about 5,000 years ago. So when you look at your ancestry if you went back far enough the number a relatives in a single generation would start to shrink until you got back to those two.
No one has ever "discovered" that. Sure, lots of folks like to claim that's the case, but it's been shown to be false many times over.
Though there was a natural disaster and some point in the past (I can't remember when) where scientists think that the human population was reduced to about 1,000 breeding females. So quite likely everyone is related in some way to each other, and jrl is correct that ancestors would probably start to shrink as you get closer to that point.
jrl332005 wrote:This is not true it has been discovered that everyone's genes came from only one male and one female about 5,000 years ago. So when you look at your ancestry if you went back far enough the number a relatives in a single generation would start to shrink until you got back to those two.
No one has ever "discovered" that. Sure, lots of folks like to claim that's the case, but it's been shown to be false many times over.
Though there was a natural disaster and some point in the past (I can't remember when) where scientists think that the human population was reduced to about 1,000 breeding females. So quite likely everyone is related in some way to each other, and jrl is correct that ancestors would probably start to shrink as you get closer to that point.
The DNA in our mitochondria (an organelle in our cells) is only passed through mothers. So 'Mitochondrial Eve' is the name given to the most recently alive woman who was a common ancestor to all humans. She lived about 200,000 years ago, they reckon. And all we know about her really is that she had at least two daughters (because if she had only had one daughter, that daughter would have become mitochondrial eve...)
It's not that long ago, really. What's cool (sort of) is that massive natural disasters that wipe loads of people out must mean the 'mitochondrial eve' crown passes from one woman to one of her descendants. That's how it seems, anyway...
mviola wrote:1/2 Italian - My dad's side lives in the mountains by Trento, it's almost German, and my grandparents speak a dialect called called Nones. Its part of the Ladin language. I classify myself as Italian, and can speak some of the language 1/4 Slovenian - My grandfather on my mom's side was born there and lived there for a few years. His parents died when he was young so he doesn't remember anything about the culture. 1/4 Irish - My grandmother's father came over from Ireland under a fake name. We can't trace him. His wife is from either Ireland or Alsace Lorraine. We do not know if she was French, German, or Irish, but since we know her husband's heritage, that side is Irish
On my Irish side of the family we had someone who went over to the United states as a boxer in the Early 20th century, he went by the Name McCarthy and he was quite successful, he was approached by Al Capone's Mafia and bribed to lose his next match, but he ignored them and won the match, he was then shot as a consequence.
That's an amazing story. My Irish side isn't as exciting as that. He came over under the name William Hill (real easy to find that name) and owned a truck lot in Ridgewood, Queens.
Yeah, I find my Jewish side quite interesting as it's basically shrouded in mystery, I know it was a woman that came to England, Pre 1933, but we simply do not know much about her.
dunnno where you live brooksie but there's a huge ashkenazi community in stamford hill, about 10 mins walk from my house. Interesting ancestry - as far as i know they keep themselves very much to themselves...
There is and I've checked them up and they seem to be Satmar Jews from Hungary, but I think my ancestors would have fitted well in The Golders Green community, I know they wern't very religious Jews at all.
