Asperger's Syndrome

[brooksieb]

Many famous people have the condition Asperger's Syndrome, but not many people know of it, I for one have the condition and would like to know if anyone else here on Bumpage has Asperger's Syndrome? I know some people are not very keen of expressing them having Asperger's, I was like that (even in a point of denialism) but it's something you learn to deal with and over come.

[mviola]

No, but I have social anxiety disorder. So I know the feeling of not disclosing stuff with people

[Woodruff]

Many famous people have the condition Asperger's Syndrome, but not many people know of it, I for one have the condition and would like to know if anyone else here on Bumpage has Asperger's Syndrome? I know some people are not very keen of expressing them having Asperger's, I was like that (even in a point of denialism) but it's something you learn to deal with and over come.

It's not nearly as unheard of as it used to be, though. I don't have it, but I do have four cadets in my current class (of 86) who have been diagnosed with varying levels of Asperger's Syndrome. It takes a lot of work to overcome.

[The Bison King]

2 cousins of mine have it. One is in his early 20's and entirely functional, just a bit of a weirdo. The other is 5 and... well I think it might be more than just Asperger's because he is extremely undeveloped. He doesn't talk much and isn't operating at the same level as a normal 5 year old. I'm really worried for him.

[ViperOverLord]

What is A.S.? I know I can Google it, but I figure it's better to hear it from first hand experience anyhow.

[Woodruff]

What is A.S.? I know I can Google it, but I figure it's better to hear it from first hand experience anyhow.

It's a form of autism that shows itself most strongly (at least in older kids) with significant problems in understanding and dealing with social situations and such. And by "understanding" I mean literally "comprehending"...social interaction is somewhat of a "foreign" concept to someone with Asperger's...I had one kid who related it to me as "he doesn't see the point of it".

They can also lock in on pattern behaviors. This tends to make them good marchers for instance (relating back to my cadets), but very poor in thinking outside of the box-type skills. They can get there, of course, but it takes a lot of work for them to really start to get there. They also tend to have difficulty in reacting to change...change is DEFINITELY not a pleasant experience at all for someone with Asperger's.

Think of everything I've said there not as it would relate to a normal teenager, but rather in an extreme view of it, and you have a decent idea of it...though there are different levels and aspects to it.

They do also tend to score pretty highly on intelligence tests.

[ViperOverLord]

What is A.S.? I know I can Google it, but I figure it's better to hear it from first hand experience anyhow.

It's a form of autism that shows itself most strongly (at least in older kids) with significant problems in understanding and dealing with social situations and such. And by "understanding" I mean literally "comprehending"...social interaction is somewhat of a "foreign" concept to someone with Asperger's...I had one kid who related it to me as "he doesn't see the point of it".

They can also lock in on pattern behaviors. This tends to make them good marchers for instance (relating back to my cadets), but very poor in thinking outside of the box-type skills. They can get there, of course, but it takes a lot of work for them to really start to get there. They also tend to have difficulty in reacting to change...change is DEFINITELY not a pleasant experience at all for someone with Asperger's.

Think of everything I've said there not as it would relate to a normal teenager, but rather in an extreme view of it, and you have a decent idea of it...though there are different levels and aspects to it.

They do also tend to score pretty highly on intelligence tests.

I should have known that. I've taught kids with A.S. I guess it just faded too much in my memory. Thanks. I taught kids with more extreme forms of A.S. It sounds interesting to understand the full scope of A.S. though.

[Woodruff]

What is A.S.? I know I can Google it, but I figure it's better to hear it from first hand experience anyhow.

It's a form of autism that shows itself most strongly (at least in older kids) with significant problems in understanding and dealing with social situations and such. And by "understanding" I mean literally "comprehending"...social interaction is somewhat of a "foreign" concept to someone with Asperger's...I had one kid who related it to me as "he doesn't see the point of it".

They can also lock in on pattern behaviors. This tends to make them good marchers for instance (relating back to my cadets), but very poor in thinking outside of the box-type skills. They can get there, of course, but it takes a lot of work for them to really start to get there. They also tend to have difficulty in reacting to change...change is DEFINITELY not a pleasant experience at all for someone with Asperger's.

Think of everything I've said there not as it would relate to a normal teenager, but rather in an extreme view of it, and you have a decent idea of it...though there are different levels and aspects to it.

They do also tend to score pretty highly on intelligence tests.

I should have known that. I've taught kids with A.S. I guess it just faded too much in my memory. Thanks. I taught kids with more extreme forms of A.S. It sounds interesting to understand the full scope of A.S. though.

Oh, and they tend to make very good computer programmers...they already have the right mindset for it as far as their patterns of thinking.

[rockfist]

I had a boss who I am sure had it...he used to totally oversell his own qualifications in prospect meetings to the point that the meeting became a discussion about him...and he was damn hard to reign in. A colleague actually had a prospect get up and walk out of the meeting after 35 mins of talk by the boss about himself...I am not the best socially but I am quite sure there would've been signs even I could read prior to that.

[strike wolf]

I have mild A.S. I used to be completely illiterate in social situations but at 21 I've gotten myself to the point where I interact more though I do not always appropriately express emotion (part of the reason I use a lot of cuss words is to get the point across about the emotion because it doesn't always come across normally). Most of the time if it's someone I've just met it's very awkward on both sides of the conversation but if I know them better I tend to interact more confidently and they seem to understand some of the quirks in the way I talk and my body language.

I can also understand how your boss does get caught up talking about himself. I have a bad tendency where I sometimes get stuck on a subject and unless someone else changes it I may not divert from that subject or even after the subject's changed I still may try to go back to the subject every now and then or even say something completely out of the blue about it.

It used to be much worse. I used to be at a point where i could not get myself to change the subject, I would talk about it to my fill and if someone else changed the conversation I couldn't follow and that's when I wasn't already avoiding the interaction to begin with. It wasn't so much that I didn't get the point of social interaction and more that I was very shy though.

[khazalid]

everyone has fuckin' asperger's these days - fact

[dwilhelmi]

I have heard of it, but only because of the show Parenthood. I had never heard of it before that. Out of curiosity, have any of you seen that show, and how close to the mark do they portray it? I read that the executive producer has a son with Asperger's, so there was hope that the show would do a good job of making the character realistic.

[Woodruff]

I have heard of it, but only because of the show Parenthood. I had never heard of it before that. Out of curiosity, have any of you seen that show, and how close to the mark do they portray it? I read that the executive producer has a son with Asperger's, so there was hope that the show would do a good job of making the character realistic.

I haven't seen it, no. Is it a movie or television?

[dwilhelmi]

I have heard of it, but only because of the show Parenthood. I had never heard of it before that. Out of curiosity, have any of you seen that show, and how close to the mark do they portray it? I read that the executive producer has a son with Asperger's, so there was hope that the show would do a good job of making the character realistic.

I haven't seen it, no. Is it a movie or television?

Television, NBC. They have completed just one season so far, the second one is getting ready to start mid September.

[bedub1]

I heard of it as Ass Burgers syndrome. I googled it and found this:

Asperger's syndrome is an attempt by Dr. Hans Asperger to worm his way into the history books by labelling people who are simply assholes with a fake mental illness. (The name itself is a euphemism for what he called "Autistic Sociopaths"). Like all mental illness there is absolutely no physical evidence that it actually exists.

Asperger-monsters are the most self-centered, selfish pieces of shit on the planet. Devoid of empathy, social reasoning, social context, or self awareness, they are subhuman meat-calculators, who live to collect and catalogue items like barcodes and bottletops.

Such losers believe that having Asperger's Syndrome excuses all forms of social retardation, attention whoring and shitty self-absorbed bullshit, while also allowing them to lay claim to its supposed symptom of "higher than average levels of intelligence".

For these reasons, Asperger's has greatly outstripped ADHD as the chic diagnosis of choice for pretty much every group of fucktards on the internet. It is no wonder then that all people with Assburgers are fugly.

[khazalid]

see my above post!

[Woodruff]

I heard of it as Ass Burgers syndrome.

A common appelation for it, based on the typical lack of social...ummm...sensitivity that those with A.S. have a tendency to display.

I googled it and found this:

Asperger's syndrome is an attempt by Dr. Hans Asperger to worm his way into the history books by labelling people who are simply assholes with a fake mental illness. (The name itself is a euphemism for what he called "Autistic Sociopaths"). Like all mental illness there is absolutely no physical evidence that it actually exists.

Asperger-monsters are the most self-centered, selfish pieces of shit on the planet. Devoid of empathy, social reasoning, social context, or self awareness, they are subhuman meat-calculators, who live to collect and catalogue items like barcodes and bottletops.

Such losers believe that having Asperger's Syndrome excuses all forms of social retardation, attention whoring and shitty self-absorbed bullshit, while also allowing them to lay claim to its supposed symptom of "higher than average levels of intelligence".

For these reasons, Asperger's has greatly outstripped ADHD as the chic diagnosis of choice for pretty much every group of fucktards on the internet. It is no wonder then that all people with Assburgers are fugly.

I must admit...that's some funny stuff. Not accurate of course, but funny nonetheless because there is that kernel of truth to it.

[heavycola]

What is A.S.? I know I can Google it, but I figure it's better to hear it from first hand experience anyhow.

It's a form of autism that shows itself most strongly (at least in older kids) with significant problems in understanding and dealing with social situations and such. And by "understanding" I mean literally "comprehending"...social interaction is somewhat of a "foreign" concept to someone with Asperger's...I had one kid who related it to me as "he doesn't see the point of it".

They can also lock in on pattern behaviors. This tends to make them good marchers for instance (relating back to my cadets), but very poor in thinking outside of the box-type skills. They can get there, of course, but it takes a lot of work for them to really start to get there. They also tend to have difficulty in reacting to change...change is DEFINITELY not a pleasant experience at all for someone with Asperger's.

Think of everything I've said there not as it would relate to a normal teenager, but rather in an extreme view of it, and you have a decent idea of it...though there are different levels and aspects to it.

They do also tend to score pretty highly on intelligence tests.

I should have known that. I've taught kids with A.S. I guess it just faded too much in my memory. Thanks. I taught kids with more extreme forms of A.S. It sounds interesting to understand the full scope of A.S. though.

A book came out here a few years back - 'The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time'- it won a book fo the year prize. Basically it's written from the POV of a kid with high-functioning autism. It's really worth reading - brilliantly written and what I guess is a fascinating insight into what conditions like Asperger's are like.

Brooksie have you read it? Be interesting to hear what you thought of it, if you have.

[mviola]

What is A.S.? I know I can Google it, but I figure it's better to hear it from first hand experience anyhow.

It's a form of autism that shows itself most strongly (at least in older kids) with significant problems in understanding and dealing with social situations and such. And by "understanding" I mean literally "comprehending"...social interaction is somewhat of a "foreign" concept to someone with Asperger's...I had one kid who related it to me as "he doesn't see the point of it".

They can also lock in on pattern behaviors. This tends to make them good marchers for instance (relating back to my cadets), but very poor in thinking outside of the box-type skills. They can get there, of course, but it takes a lot of work for them to really start to get there. They also tend to have difficulty in reacting to change...change is DEFINITELY not a pleasant experience at all for someone with Asperger's.

Think of everything I've said there not as it would relate to a normal teenager, but rather in an extreme view of it, and you have a decent idea of it...though there are different levels and aspects to it.

They do also tend to score pretty highly on intelligence tests.

I should have known that. I've taught kids with A.S. I guess it just faded too much in my memory. Thanks. I taught kids with more extreme forms of A.S. It sounds interesting to understand the full scope of A.S. though.

A book came out here a few years back - 'The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time'- it won a book fo the year prize. Basically it's written from the POV of a kid with high-functioning autism. It's really worth reading - brilliantly written and what I guess is a fascinating insight into what conditions like Asperger's are like.

Brooksie have you read it? Be interesting to hear what you thought of it, if you have.

My little brother is reading it right now and he hates it. I tried reading a page or two and its just weird, in my opinion.

[brooksieb]

What is A.S.? I know I can Google it, but I figure it's better to hear it from first hand experience anyhow.

It's a form of autism that shows itself most strongly (at least in older kids) with significant problems in understanding and dealing with social situations and such. And by "understanding" I mean literally "comprehending"...social interaction is somewhat of a "foreign" concept to someone with Asperger's...I had one kid who related it to me as "he doesn't see the point of it".

They can also lock in on pattern behaviors. This tends to make them good marchers for instance (relating back to my cadets), but very poor in thinking outside of the box-type skills. They can get there, of course, but it takes a lot of work for them to really start to get there. They also tend to have difficulty in reacting to change...change is DEFINITELY not a pleasant experience at all for someone with Asperger's.

Think of everything I've said there not as it would relate to a normal teenager, but rather in an extreme view of it, and you have a decent idea of it...though there are different levels and aspects to it.

They do also tend to score pretty highly on intelligence tests.

I should have known that. I've taught kids with A.S. I guess it just faded too much in my memory. Thanks. I taught kids with more extreme forms of A.S. It sounds interesting to understand the full scope of A.S. though.

A book came out here a few years back - 'The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time'- it won a book fo the year prize. Basically it's written from the POV of a kid with high-functioning autism. It's really worth reading - brilliantly written and what I guess is a fascinating insight into what conditions like Asperger's are like.

Brooksie have you read it? Be interesting to hear what you thought of it, if you have.

I've read part of it and I think it is realistic, I only have very mild Asperger's so someone wouldn't notice there's anything wrong with me, But I can link comparisons and traits from that book

[PLAYER57832]

see my above post!

You are actually somewhat correct.

Roughly 75% of the population (I think that's US, not world?) fits somewhere on the Autism syndrom spectrum, of which Aspergers is the "lightest" version. I would guess its slightly higher among internet users/posters.

In a sense, think of all the jokes about men not understanding women (and vice-versa). Instead of "I don't get men/women", its "i don't get people." That is also part of why women are less likely to be diagnosed with aspergers. At the same time, when it hits women, it can often be even harder, because women are just "inherently" "supposed" to "get" all that "touchy-feely" "human emotions" stuff.

Ironically, some with Asperger's can be extremely intuitive. There is a rather famous women who has completely redone how animals are treated in slaughter houses, etc. She has Aspergers and attributes it, in part to her success. That may be part of the problem for some. If you live in a world where you can perceive people's real feelings.... and pick up very quickly that what most people say just doesn't match, it can be confusing. To some extent, all kids go through that and learn to adjust. (think of the literalism of a 3 year old, then a 5 year old.. then fast forward to 10 ). In Asperger's, at some point that process is halted or intercepted or some such.

For others, it is, as Woodruff state, that they simply don't SEE the various cues that most people see.

Aspergers is not one thing, though. How it evidences, how people deal with it can vary. The one consistancy is that there is difficulty understanding and dealing with "social rules" and social interactions.

(and "no"... to answer the above question, I have never been diagnosed with Asperger's or anything similar)

[AAFitz]

Aspergers is easily avoidable. Just choose Wendys over McDonalds.

No silly, this isnt some dumbass joke about assburgers, there are just less chemicals in the Wendys burgers. Please Note: I did not say it was not a dumbass joke in General.

Self-diagnosis is usually more delusion than diagnosis.

[Baron Von PWN]

Definitely no Aspergers here, however I have a cousin who has severe autism so I was familiar with the condition. Personally I don't see the difference between high functioning autism and Aspergers

[aage]

A book came out here a few years back - 'The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time'- it won a book fo the year prize. Basically it's written from the POV of a kid with high-functioning autism. It's really worth reading - brilliantly written and what I guess is a fascinating insight into what conditions like Asperger's are like.

Brooksie have you read it? Be interesting to hear what you thought of it, if you have.

My little brother is reading it right now and he hates it. I tried reading a page or two and its just weird, in my opinion.

It's supposed to be weird. Because of that, I think it's brilliant. I can imagine why your little brother hates it tho, since it's not very reader-friendly in some occasions, with sentences becoming page-long and all.

[heavycola]

see my above post!

You are actually somewhat correct.

Roughly 75% of the population (I think that's US, not world?) fits somewhere on the Autism syndrom spectrum, of which Aspergers is the "lightest" version. I would guess its slightly higher among internet users/posters.

In a sense, think of all the jokes about men not understanding women (and vice-versa). Instead of "I don't get men/women", its "i don't get people." That is also part of why women are less likely to be diagnosed with aspergers. At the same time, when it hits women, it can often be even harder, because women are just "inherently" "supposed" to "get" all that "touchy-feely" "human emotions" stuff.

My wife tried to tell me once that maleness is itself a form of very mild autism.