WWII-Stalingrad [QUENCHED]

[wisemanpsemc]

I am truly enjoying this map. One note. Sniper S3, the territory name blends into the background and it is hard to pick out.

[Keefie]

I've played nearly 150 games on this map and it's been very kind to me One thing I've noticed is that in EVERY singles game I've played U3 R1077AA is neutral, is this intentional or a bug ?

Keefie

[cairnswk]

I am truly enjoying this map. One note. Sniper S3, the territory name blends into the background and it is hard to pick out.

Thanks for that feedback. I'll see if anyone else has same issue.

I've played nearly 150 games on this map and it's been very kind to me One thing I've noticed is that in EVERY singles game I've played U3 R1077AA is neutral, is this intentional or a bug ?

Keefie

Kind to me also
Not it's not a bug, it is intentional...each two unit region has at least one neutral, and neutrals can only be set statically at game beginning.

[ender516]

Yeah, now that wisemanpsemc mentions it, it is a little difficult to spot the grey S3 on that purple. But "Kulikov" stands out well. I'm not sure if it would be best to (a) change the S3 to white for the contrast, (b) change the XML to say "Kulikov (S3)" (and the others similarly) so that the focus of the search is for the more visible text, (c) some other solution or (d) no change at all.

[pamoa]

e) have a walk on moon

[natty dread]

e) have a walk on moon

Wrong map

[Razorvich]

Just a comment...I hate that you cant reinforce from aa or art.


Apart from that minor issue, great job.

[ender516]

Just a comment...I hate that you cant reinforce from aa or art.


Apart from that minor issue, great job.

I agree that it can be annoying, but AA and artillery on this map, as in real life, only bombard other locations, and leave it to the infantry and armour to move in and occupy a location. And in conquer club, if you cannot attack a location, you cannot reinforce to it either. It forces you to plan a bit more, but I think it makes this a very challenging and enjoyable map.

[Coxey]

I'd like to say that I think this map is brilliant - though quite tricky to learn (I'm playing in about 4 games on it right now).

My main grime is that I can't tell exactly how many troop strength I have on my own snipers. I don't mind not knowing others' troop strengths but I think I should know my own.

I'm running and old version of firefox (can't upgrade) so BOB isn't an option. Anyhow, I should at least know my own sniper strength somehow.

Other than that I love this map - I play it foggy anyhow, which suits it better i think.

Is there anything in the XML right now that would allow the tag system to override "sunny" conditions? If not then perhaps it should be added to the base DTD for this "sniper" type situation. that way the player who owns the province knows its strength but the other players don't.

A sort of <alwaysfoggy>region</alwaysfoggy> tag.

If I wanted to code a map and I wanted to use invisible dungeon dwellers that were always invisible no matter what then I'd like this tag available for me to use - but also to be able to overridden by Dust of Appearance say.

anyhow, the sniper question needs to be fixed or I'm going to have start penciling sniper strength on my wall.

[jefjef]

ummm. Look in each corner of the map. You will see the sniper tert in it's corresponding box...

[Coxey]

Thanks for the wall post jefjef, I still think it would be nice to override "sunny" conditions via the XML dtd - as explained above.

I've only just started playing this map it's very complex, I love it!

[ender516]

There is a topic in the Foundry Discussions forum, XML Suggestions and Modifications II, where you could propose your "always foggy" idea (if it hasn't been already, I didn't search, so you should).

[cairnswk]

Guys, lackattack asked for the latest version in .png format so that it is a little clearer to reduce down.
so here it is.



[bigimg]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282/cairnswk/stalingrad/stalingrad_V38L-1.png[/bigimg]

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... V38S-1.png
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... V38L-1.png

[natty dread]

WOW, that looks so clear compared to the jpg.

Except... what's that thing between R 62nd 39th and 42nd?

[cairnswk]

WOW, that looks so clear compared to the jpg.

Except... what's that thing between R 62nd 39th and 42nd?

Swamp.
Its the underlying image where some of the coast doesn't exactly follow the outline of the region.
I don't think it's too bothersome. It also happens in a couple of other areas if you looks closely.

[MrBenn]

It's been a week with no comments.... I don;t know if we're still waiting for a file to be uploaded, or whether we can push the boat out on this one?

[cairnswk]

It's been a week with no comments.... I don;t know if we're still waiting for a file to be uploaded, or whether we can push the boat out on this one?

Still waiting for the file upload i think MrBenn.
Once that's done, this can go and Das Schloß

[danryan]

This one is ready for primetime, and it may be my favorite complex map on CC. I'd say my favorite cairnswk map, and there are a lot of really good ones.

[sm8900]

hi. I'm in game 7641094 on this map right now. I'm a bit confused though. how do i attack the kulikov space?

also, what do the dotted lines mean? (the ones running along the ground on north side of the river.)

[pamoa]

hi. I'm in game 7641094 on this map right now. I'm a bit confused though. how do i attack the kulikov space?
also, what do the dotted lines mean? (the ones running along the ground on north side of the river.)

1 see the underground fighting legend in the lower right corner
2 see artillery bombardment range left next to it

[danryan]

Who has the champagne, this ship is ready to sail!

[sm8900]

hi. I'm in game 7641094 on this map right now. I'm a bit confused though. how do i attack the kulikov space?
also, what do the dotted lines mean? (the ones running along the ground on north side of the river.)

1 see the underground fighting legend in the lower right corner
2 see artillery bombardment range left next to it

hi. sorry, don;'t mean to sound ignorant or puzzled, but I'm not sure how to utilize that. could you please tell me just a bit more about the kulikov space? I would really really appreciate it. thanks.

[ender516]

hi. I'm in game 7641094 on this map right now. I'm a bit confused though. how do i attack the kulikov space?
also, what do the dotted lines mean? (the ones running along the ground on north side of the river.)

1 see the underground fighting legend in the lower right corner
2 see artillery bombardment range left next to it

hi. sorry, don;'t mean to sound ignorant or puzzled, but I'm not sure how to utilize that. could you please tell me just a bit more about the kulikov space? I would really really appreciate it. thanks.

Okay, the legend says: Enter sniper positions through regions bordering coloured building. So Kulikov is coloured purple. The purple building is bordered by the Meat Combine Inf, the Lazur Chemical Plant Inf, and the Krasny Oktyabr Inf territories. So you conquer Kulikov from one of those. The legend also says: sniper fire can bombard the same edge-coloured regions as the entered buildings. So Kulikov can bombard the purple-edged regions, Refiney Inf, and B.T.F. Barrikady Tractor Factory Inf.

The dotted lines actually cross the river as well. Where they meet, next to Mameyev Hill, you can see an icon designating the four sectors of the map, N, E, S, and W. As the legend implies, artillery bombardment is restricted based on these zones. So artillery in the W zone (like Airfield Art, for example) can bombard anything in the S zone, and artillery in the S zone, (e.g., R 64th 15th Div Art) can bombard anything in the W zone. The N and E zones are paired similarly.

[sm8900]

ok, thanks for your note. is there any way to perhaps add that explanation to that map? thanks.

[ender516]

I sincerely doubt it. This map is packed tight within the site-regulated size limits. The information is all there in the legends, as pamoa intimated. You just have to look at it, read it, and think about it. Using the BOB add-on is very helpful on dense maps like this one, as it makes obvious attack and bombardment routes through its Map Inspect feature.