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Re: 1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is Muslim

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He says he is a christian. Why are you calling him a liar? Are you a christian? Do you call all christians liars?
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notyou2 wrote:He says he is a christian. Why are you calling him a liar? Are you a christian? Do you call all christians liars?


What part of Congressman Joe Wilson don't you get? If he was "Christian" you would think that after all this time he would have found a church in Washington DC to frequent. He hasn't. As my mother's favorite co-worker in Suffolk County Community College used to say.

"He lies like a rug!"
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Phatscotty wrote:He was born a muslim,
he has a muslim name,
his father was a muslim...
his step-father was a muslim
he grew up in a muslim country
he went to a muslim school...
He says America is not a Christian Nation

The politician/lawyer says he's a christian. There are 0 issues with his birth certificate or his passport.

Slam Dunk case for Christianity...

these are only external facts. We can continue judging him "by his actions"....

in all fairness, here is the strongest evidence that Obama is in fact a Christian


Haha, oh Phatty, I thought you were above such pig stupid shit as thinking Obama is a Muslim. You might as well think he isn't a natural born citizen.
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Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:He was born a muslim,
he has a muslim name,
his father was a muslim...
his step-father was a muslim
he grew up in a muslim country
he went to a muslim school...
He says America is not a Christian Nation

The politician/lawyer says he's a christian. There are 0 issues with his birth certificate or his passport.

Slam Dunk case for Christianity...

these are only external facts. We can continue judging him "by his actions"....

in all fairness, here is the strongest evidence that Obama is in fact a Christian


Haha, oh Phatty, I thought you were above such pig stupid shit as thinking Obama is a Muslim. You might as well think he isn't a natural born citizen.


which statements are untrue? Nowhere did I say I think he's a Muslim. Where do you come up with that conclusion??

Why can I not get a rational response?
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Phatscotty wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:He was born a muslim,
he has a muslim name,
his father was a muslim...
his step-father was a muslim
he grew up in a muslim country
he went to a muslim school...
He says America is not a Christian Nation

The politician/lawyer says he's a christian. There are 0 issues with his birth certificate or his passport.

Slam Dunk case for Christianity...

these are only external facts. We can continue judging him "by his actions"....

in all fairness, here is the strongest evidence that Obama is in fact a Christian


Haha, oh Phatty, I thought you were above such pig stupid shit as thinking Obama is a Muslim. You might as well think he isn't a natural born citizen.


which statements are untrue? Nowhere did I say I think he's a Muslim. Where do you come up with that conclusion??

Why can I not get a rational response?


What response should I give? You might as well be Lionz, putting "maybe" in front of a statement and saying you don't actually believe that. You are dancing around saying "Obama is a Muslim", that's all I can tell.
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I think his world views display a level of naivety that would be laughable were he not the President. His economic views display a complete lack of understanding for how the private sector operates. He would prefer higher taxes and lower living standards to lower taxes and higher living standards apparently. He has displayed that he does not care what the American public thinks when it comes to the Stimulus, the bailouts (pick one), and the Health Care bill. His personality was what I would characterize as extremely narcissistic before the mainstream media created a cult of personality surrounding him, it has since gotten markedly worse. He goes so far out of his way to be "tolerant" to Muslims that his views are anti-Christian and anti-Jewish. His work ethic is what one would expect in a Communist/Socialist society...how many vacations has he been on this year?

Is he a Muslim? I couldn't care less, because other than what I've written here, he is doing a great job.
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rockfist wrote:I think his world views display a level of naivety that would be laughable were he not the President. His economic views display a complete lack of understanding for how the private sector operates. He would prefer higher taxes and lower living standards to lower taxes and higher living standards apparently. He has displayed that he does not care what the American public thinks when it comes to the Stimulus, the bailouts (pick one), and the Health Care bill. His personality was what I would characterize as extremely narcissistic before the mainstream media created a cult of personality surrounding him, it has since gotten markedly worse. He goes so far out of his way to be "tolerant" to Muslims that his views are anti-Christian and anti-Jewish. His work ethic is what one would expect in a Communist/Socialist society...how many vacations has he been on this year?

Is he a Muslim? I couldn't care less, because other than what I've written here, he is doing a great job.


Theoretically, I would only care that he lied about it, and I would want to know why he would lie about it.
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Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:He was born a muslim,
he has a muslim name,
his father was a muslim...
his step-father was a muslim
he grew up in a muslim country
he went to a muslim school...
He says America is not a Christian Nation

The politician/lawyer says he's a christian. There are 0 issues with his birth certificate or his passport.

Slam Dunk case for Christianity...

these are only external facts. We can continue judging him "by his actions"....

in all fairness, here is the strongest evidence that Obama is in fact a Christian


Haha, oh Phatty, I thought you were above such pig stupid shit as thinking Obama is a Muslim. You might as well think he isn't a natural born citizen.


which statements are untrue? Nowhere did I say I think he's a Muslim. Where do you come up with that conclusion??

Why can I not get a rational response?


What response should I give? You might as well be Lionz, putting "maybe" in front of a statement and saying you don't actually believe that. You are dancing around saying "Obama is a Muslim", that's all I can tell.


so, you can't even begin to tell me where those facts start going wrong(not a strong position)? Why do you ignore them? Maybe you could explain that?
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Phatscotty wrote:Why can I not get a rational response?


Mostly because you're not trying to get a rational response.
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notyou2 wrote:He says he is a christian. Why are you calling him a liar? Are you a christian? Do you call all christians liars?


Your debating skills are pathetic. Keep living in your fantasy world and let the big boys do the talking.
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How does this rate as strong/weak evidence of his Christianity? Obama mocks Christianity

This was just a slip
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tzor wrote:What part of Congressman Joe Wilson don't you get? If he was "Christian" you would think that after all this time he would have found a church in Washington DC to frequent. He hasn't. As my mother's favorite co-worker in Suffolk County Community College used to say.

"He lies like a rug!"


I agree with this and what you said earlier about him being an agnostic or weak atheist, if you will. I saw S.E. Cupp on a discussion with Bill Maher where this was brought up.

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The true % is 24. It's closer to 1 in 4 Americans believe...
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notyou2 wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:1 in 5 Americans think he's a Muslim.


Are you referring to the poster above your post?

It certainly appears that you are VOL.


I'm just saying from memory that the survey said think and not believe. I don't mean to split hairs, but that is possibly relevant.
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tzor wrote:
notyou2 wrote:He says he is a christian. Why are you calling him a liar? Are you a christian? Do you call all christians liars?

What part of Congressman Joe Wilson don't you get? If he was "Christian" you would think that after all this time he would have found a church in Washington DC to frequent. He hasn't.

Maybe Obama is the president of the United States of America. Conceivably security concerns may have been voiced. Possibly he has a full schedule and potentially important business to attend to.
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Why does it matter what religion he is? Christianity, Islam and Judaism are practically the same religion anyway - the only difference is whether they think Jesus was the son of god, an important prophet or a schmuck.
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MeDeFe wrote:Maybe Obama is the president of the United States of America. Conceivably security concerns may have been voiced. Possibly he has a full schedule and potentially important business to attend to.


Total Bullshit. (Now totally organic with 100% more BULL!) The Clintons frequently went to church during Bill's presidency. Carter taught Sunday School at a local Baptist church while he was president. Here is an old article blasting Dubya's poor attendence record. The great O loves to double down on his predecessor, doing everything wrong the former president did twice as badly.
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tzor wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Maybe Obama is the president of the United States of America. Conceivably security concerns may have been voiced. Possibly he has a full schedule and potentially important business to attend to.

Total Bullshit. (Now totally organic with 100% more BULL!) The Clintons frequently went to church during Bill's presidency. Carter taught Sunday School at a local Baptist church while he was president. Here is an old article blasting Dubya's poor attendence record. The great O loves to double down on his predecessor, doing everything wrong the former president did twice as badly.

Imagine me asking you a lot of hypothetical questions and posting a lot of pictures.


Also note that a common rhetorical method is to start with a relatively good argument, then mention a not so good argument, and then finish with a really good one. For some reason you got stuck on the second and ignored the first and especially the third. You are an unusual audience, but your fixation is a bit disturbing.
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This is such a weird thread.
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MeDeFe wrote:Imagine me asking you a lot of hypothetical questions and posting a lot of pictures.


OK, I've just imagined you as Lionz ... now what? :|

You can be a president and teach Sunday school at the same time. You are the one making the lame arguments about he can't because it is a security risk. He does not attend because he chooses not to. What part of that can't you understand.
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I don't care about the mans religion I care about his policies
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This just in: people that don't regularly attend church aren't Christians.
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Frigidus wrote:This just in: people that don't regularly attend church aren't Christians.


Um... some would say that's actually true.

And I agree with Alex - who cares if the man is Muslim or not? All that should matter are his policies, which is why this is a weird thread.
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tzor wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Imagine me asking you a lot of hypothetical questions and posting a lot of pictures.


OK, I've just imagined you as Lionz ... now what? :|

You can be a president and teach Sunday school at the same time. You are the one making the lame arguments about he can't because it is a security risk. He does not attend because he chooses not to. What part of that can't you understand.

Let us try again. I have faith in you that you will yet get my point.

MeDeFe wrote:Also note that a common rhetorical method is to start with a relatively good argument, then mention a not so good argument, and then finish with a really good one. For some reason you got stuck on the second and ignored the first and especially the third. You are an unusual audience, but your fixation is a bit disturbing.


Earlier I wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Maybe Obama is the president of the United States of America. Conceivably security concerns may have been voiced. Possibly he has a full schedule and potentially important business to attend to.


There are three short sentences which correlate to the rhetorical method I described, I have colour-coded them for your convenience. It should now be fairly obvious which two sentences I consider the main pillars of my argument. The two pillars on which the argument rests, if you will. At this point I would like to point out that they are entirely hypothetical and are meant to illustrate a point I am trying trying to make.
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