Antarctica [Quenched]

[natty dread]

Antarctica



graphics: natty_dread
gameplay: isaiah40

thanks to denominator.


UPDATES:

XML: download/file.php?id=142






Latest version:

[bigimg]http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/777/antarctic14.png[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4035/antarctic14s.png[/bigimg]

[spoiler=older versions]v20
Large
[bigimg]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1616/antarctic13.png[/bigimg]
Small
[bigimg]http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5157/antarctic13s.png[/bigimg]

v19
[bigimg]http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3400/antarctic12.png[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5463/antarctic12s.png[/bigimg]

v18
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8672/antarctic11.png[/bigimg]
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7876 ... tic11s.png[/bigimg]
v17
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/618/antarctic10b.png
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/49/antarctic10bs.png

v16

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3125/antarctic9.png

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5332/antarctic9s.png

v15

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3125/antarctic9.png

v14

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3413/antarctic8.png

v13

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/853/antarctic6.png

v12a

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1894/antarctic5.png

v12
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4743/antarctic4.png

v11

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4743/antarctic4.png


v10

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/333/antarctic2a.png

v9

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9361/antarctic2.png

v8

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7338/antarctic1.png

v7b

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9200/anta07b.png

v7a

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5651/anta07a.png

v7

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/579/anta07.png
v6a

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6190/anta06a.png

v6:

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6548/anta06.png

v5
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2582/anta05.png
v4

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4580/anta04.png
v3

http://a.imageshack.us/img137/9291/anta03b.png

Version 2

http://a.imageshack.us/img64/1360/anta02.png
Version 1

http://a.imageshack.us/img831/4619/anta01.png[/spoiler]

[spoiler=neutral values][bigimg]http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7012/antarctic6neuts.png[/bigimg][/spoiler]


Test results for:

[spoiler=large maps]88:s

888:s
[/spoiler]
[spoiler=small maps](southpole positions have been fixed since after these screenshots)
88:s

888:s
[/spoiler]
[spoiler=colourblind test]Protanopia

Deuteranopia
[/spoiler]

Gameplay:
The map has 107 territories, of which are:
16 bases
2 islands
1 south pole
4 sectors
7 ice shelves
77 land territories divided to 11 areas

- Standard reinforcement: +1 for each 3 territories / minimum of 3 applies.

- Starting points are bases A-P. Each base gives +1 autodeploy and one-way assaults the land territory they are in. The bases can only be assaulted from South Pole.
- Bases start with 5 troops. Leftover bases start with 5 neutrals.
- At least one base is needed to stay in the game.

- Land territories give a +2 bonus for each 2 territories in the same area. They lose 1 troop per turn.
- Land territories start with 2 neutrals.

- Islands do nothing. They have no decay and give no bonus.
- Islands start with 2 neutrals.

- Sectors 1-4 lose 3 troops each turn. They are connected to neighboring sectors and land areas. They can assault South Pole.
- South Pole loses 10 troops each turn. It can one-way assault all bases. It can assault back to sectors.
- Holding South pole + all Sectors gives a +30 bonus.
- Sectors start with 3 neutrals each. South pole starts with 30 neutrals.

- Ice shelves reset to 2 neutral when held.
- Ice shelves start with 2 neutrals.

White ice, penguin habitat and mountains are impassable.

updated after v12a


[spoiler=original post]I was a fan of eipi:s Antarctic map. I was severely disappointed when the project stalled - eipi has announced he will not be resuming the project so it can be considered dead.

The Antarctic is currently the only continent not properly represented on CC. Thus there definitely should be a niche for such map. There are loads of elements that could be made into interesting gameplay.

Ever since eipi abandoned the Antarctic project, I have been playing with the idea of doing my own... Unfortunately, I currently have lots of other map projects to finish, so I can't fully commit myself into creating the map from scratch. I also wouldn't feel right copying the gameplay straight from eipi:s map. Which is probably forbidden anyway.

Anyways, this brings me to my point: if anyone is willing to develop the gameplay for an Antarctic map, I would be willing to do the graphics. You will have free hands to design the gameplay as you wish, I may offer some suggestions and feedback along the way, but won't interfere otherwise.

Gameplay style will be up to you. Conquest, standard, anything goes.

The only requirement I ask is that you will be able to represent your gameplay ideas as a rough sketch (MS paint made will do), and that you are willing to commit yourself into working with the map at least until the gameplay stamp is awarded. After the GP stamp I'll "take over" and start working the visual side of the map. If needed I can also do the XML.

So, anyone up for it?

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Latest graphical draft:a

[bigimg]http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3295/anta000.png[/bigimg]



Gameplay entries:

The Bison King http://i46.tinypic.com/17aiv5.jpg[/bigimg]

denominator http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7664 ... ea1v20.png

prplmnstr http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb21 ... camod4.jpg

army of nobunaga http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4664/antdraft.jpg[/spoiler]

[FlyingSquirrel]

I'm obviously no good at searching, because I can't find the original post on antarctic.

[natty dread]

I'm obviously no good at searching, because I can't find the original post on antarctic.

It's in the bin.

[Rih0]

well, I`ve got some ideas, but cant really work on it.
It would be a lot easyer if you post here a basic image, just to have an Idea.

[Industrial Helix]

wouldn't it be better if someone picked up and finished the antarctic map as it was in the FF already, rather than start anew?

viewtopic.php?f=242&t=59458

[Incandenza]

wouldn't it be better if someone picked up and finished the antarctic map as it was in the FF already, rather than start anew?

viewtopic.php?f=242&t=59458

I'd be in favor, but whoever does so should probably talk to eipi first.

[natty dread]

wouldn't it be better if someone picked up and finished the antarctic map as it was in the FF already, rather than start anew?

viewtopic.php?f=242&t=59458

Why would it be better? And like said, eipi's permission would be required for that... I don't think he is on this site anymore.

[Industrial Helix]

wouldn't it be better if someone picked up and finished the antarctic map as it was in the FF already, rather than start anew?

viewtopic.php?f=242&t=59458

Why would it be better? And like said, eipi's permission would be required for that... I don't think he is on this site anymore.

1) The map has a lot of gameplay kinks worked out already
2) its a solid idea
3) All the graphics nitpicks are about done.
4) It's got a lot of support
5) we'll have an antarctic map within in about a month
6) I would avoid a lot of redundancy

[natty dread]

IH, why do you only address the first part of my post but ignore the second?

1. Why would it be better?
2. And like said, eipi's permission would be required for that... I don't think he is on this site anymore.

[Industrial Helix]

IH, why do you only address the first part of my post but ignore the second?

1. Why would it be better?
2. And like said, eipi's permission would be required for that... I don't think he is on this site anymore.

Well, I figured it didn't need answering. If someone was going to pick up his map a pm would be in order, which presuming he has email notifications still on then he would get the message. And I presume there's one way or another to get an email address.

[natty dread]

Well I have sent a pm to eipi, let's hope he responds.

[forrestofgump]

I'm just throwing this out there
has anyone played Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey for the nintendo ds?
i think it would be quite the epic map if it had alternate universes and demons and such...
I'm not crazy, it's just that it was set in Antarctica and it came up in my head when i saw the thread

[natty dread]

Copyright, copyright, copyright, copyright... copyright.

Anyway I want to do a plain old Antarctic map. With penguins, possibly.

[Industrial Helix]

Well it doesn't have to be the exact title and gameplay as the Nintendo game... demons of Antarctica isn't a copyrighted concept.

But I dunno how well it would fly anyway.

[natty dread]

Well it doesn't have to be the exact title and gameplay as the Nintendo game... demons of Antarctica isn't a copyrighted concept.

But I dunno how well it would fly anyway.

Yeah like I said, I just want to do the Antarctic map for now. Eipi hasn't responded so far, I'll give it a few days, but if he doesn't, then my offer stands for the gameplay makers...

If no one wants to do the gameplay for the map, and eipi doesn't show up to give permission, then I'll make the gameplay myself eventually, but that will mean this map will be delayed quite a bit - at least until Lunar war is finished.

[Gilligan]

Well it doesn't have to be the exact title and gameplay as the Nintendo game... demons of Antarctica isn't a copyrighted concept.

But I dunno how well it would fly anyway.

Yeah like I said, I just want to do the Antarctic map for now. Eipi hasn't responded so far, I'll give it a few days, but if he doesn't, then my offer stands for the gameplay makers...

If no one wants to do the gameplay for the map, and eipi doesn't show up to give permission, then I'll make the gameplay myself eventually, but that will mean this map will be delayed quite a bit - at least until Lunar war is finished.

I was doing the XML for that map...I had sent him a few PMs about visual changes that he promised to make. He always opened my PMs, but just ignored them.

[samuelc812]

I can get in touch with e_i_pi for you if you like

~Sam

[natty dread]

I can get in touch with e_i_pi for you if you like

~Sam

It would be great if you could try. Tell him I only want to use the gameplay from his map... I'll be doing my own graphics.

[natty dread]

Here's a bit of graphical direction... gameplay designers will be welcome to use this and doodle the gameplay plan on top of it.

[bigimg]http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6594/anta00.png[/bigimg]

[carlpgoodrich]

Just curious, is it Foundry policy that if someone leaves the site someone cannot take over their project without permission? It seems like anything posted becomes property of CC. Anyways, I really like his map and hope it goes live. If the problem is just the source files, then couldn't someone just add whatever minor changes need to be made on top of his? It seems to be almost done. But in terms of this thread, I'm sure there is room for two Antarctica maps.

[natty dread]

I don't know what the Foundry or CC policies actually say about it but I don't want to be using the gameplay someone else has developed without the developer's permission. Call it respect to a fellow mapmaker or whatever.

[e_i_pi]

I'd really prefer if people came up with an original concept. I can't copyright Antarctica, hell I can't even copyright the gameplay, and I'm doubting the image. But one of the main reasons I left CC was because I was pissed off at the Foundry process, and the process around here in general. Everything moves at the infamous turtle speed. Now, especially considering my response to being pissed off was to start my own site, which is going commercial in July, and I plan on using the Antarctica map in the future - well, you can imagine I might be preferring if people came up with their own ideas rather than requisition one that I plan on using on my own site.

[The Bison King]

Jeeeeeeeezzz.... that was harsh, guess we gotta come up with a new one.

[The Bison King]

Is he not going to tell us how to check out his site?

[e_i_pi]

Is he not going to tell us how to check out his site?

Call it mutual respect - I don't advertise on CC, CC doesn't take my stuff