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For the record, Reagan was anything but liberal. :-s
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jay_a2j wrote:I have decided to add all liberals to my block list in an attempt to keep the blood pressure down.



Thank you and good day.


Thats good that way you can continue to think you are part of a majority or the only opinion.
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Baron Von PWN wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:I have decided to add all liberals to my block list in an attempt to keep the blood pressure down.



Thank you and good day.


Thats good that way you can continue to think you are part of a majority or the only opinion.



Some 70% of Americans were against the health care bill, so ya, I am part of the majority.
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Woodruff wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:The Progressive's (AKA liberals) are destroying this country. And they are a minority!


bedub says that liberals vastly outnumber conservatives. You guys need to get your numbers straight.

Liberals outnumber conservatives with regards to college professors etc at somewhere between 10 to 1 and 20 to 1. Out in the "real world" I don't know what the stats are....
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bedub1 wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:The Progressive's (AKA liberals) are destroying this country. And they are a minority!


bedub says that liberals vastly outnumber conservatives. You guys need to get your numbers straight.

Liberals outnumber conservatives with regards to college professors etc at somewhere between 10 to 1 and 20 to 1. Out in the "real world" I don't know what the stats are....


Yeah, liberals seem to flock to the education system to indoctrinate the next generation. So while they are a majority there and the MEDIA, elsewhere their numbers dwindle.
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jay_a2j wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:I have decided to add all liberals to my block list in an attempt to keep the blood pressure down.



Thank you and good day.


Thats good that way you can continue to think you are part of a majority or the only opinion.



Some 70% of Americans were against the health care bill, so ya, I am part of the majority.


70%? You're making numbers up now?

Perhaps that was a silly question.
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jay_a2j wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:I have decided to add all liberals to my block list in an attempt to keep the blood pressure down.



Thank you and good day.


Thats good that way you can continue to think you are part of a majority or the only opinion.



Some 70% of Americans were against the health care bill, so ya, I am part of the majority.


That isisn't realy my point though, I don't doubt there are more conservatives than liberals in the US what i meant to say with my post is that simply ingoring opposing views doese nothing contructive there is usualy something to most any political argument or it would have no followers. Ingoring opposing views robs you of insights that would not occur to you otherwise due to ideology or habits of thought, this goese for any political viewpoint. The ability to draw from even your political opponents is in my opinion one of the greatest strengths of democracy.
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Neoteny wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:I have decided to add all liberals to my block list in an attempt to keep the blood pressure down.



Thank you and good day.


Thats good that way you can continue to think you are part of a majority or the only opinion.



Some 70% of Americans were against the health care bill, so ya, I am part of the majority.


70%? You're making numbers up now?

Perhaps that was a silly question.



Add the "Disapprove" and the "Don't know" and you are near 70%



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63% is nowhere near 70% and holy shit why on earth would you count "don't know"?
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Snorri1234 wrote:63% is nowhere near 70% and holy shit why on earth would you count "don't know"?



Because deep down they "know". ;)
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jay_a2j wrote:Add the "Disapprove" and the "Don't know" and you are near 70%



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Not even close.
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Neoteny wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Add the "Disapprove" and the "Don't know" and you are near 70%



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Not even close.



7% is "not even close"? How far did you get in math?
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jay_a2j wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:63% is nowhere near 70% and holy shit why on earth would you count "don't know"?



Because deep down they "know". ;)


Wow....that's incredibly retarded.
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jay_a2j wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Add the "Disapprove" and the "Don't know" and you are near 70%



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Not even close.



7% is "not even close"? How far did you get in math?


7% is not close. The "don't knows" can not be included, so all your chart shows is 48% of people don't approve. "Disapprove" means "disapprove." "Don't know" means "don't know."
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Neoteny wrote:7% is not close. The "don't knows" can not be included, so all your chart shows is 48% of people don't approve. "Disapprove" means "disapprove." "Don't know" means "don't know."



semantics :-s
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7% is not that close. If it was 2% I would say it is.

Let's leave the fuzzy math to the left.
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jay_a2j wrote:
bedub1 wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:The Progressive's (AKA liberals) are destroying this country. And they are a minority!


bedub says that liberals vastly outnumber conservatives. You guys need to get your numbers straight.

Liberals outnumber conservatives with regards to college professors etc at somewhere between 10 to 1 and 20 to 1. Out in the "real world" I don't know what the stats are....


Yeah, liberals seem to flock to the education system to indoctrinate the next generation. So while they are a majority there and the MEDIA, elsewhere their numbers dwindle.


Let me get this straight...you guys are ALWAYS whining about how liberals are indoctrinating the next generation. And yet in your next breath, you claim that conservatives vastly outnumber liberals. All this does is prove that you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about.

As if Jay's claims about that pie chart didn't already show that...
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Woodruff wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
bedub1 wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:The Progressive's (AKA liberals) are destroying this country. And they are a minority!


bedub says that liberals vastly outnumber conservatives. You guys need to get your numbers straight.

Liberals outnumber conservatives with regards to college professors etc at somewhere between 10 to 1 and 20 to 1. Out in the "real world" I don't know what the stats are....


Yeah, liberals seem to flock to the education system to indoctrinate the next generation. So while they are a majority there and the MEDIA, elsewhere their numbers dwindle.


Let me get this straight...you guys are ALWAYS whining about how liberals are indoctrinating the next generation. And yet in your next breath, you claim that conservatives vastly outnumber liberals. All this does is prove that you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about.


No no no..the liberal elite have all the positions of influence and power though. Come on Woody, think it through.
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I think it is more proper to say that Liberals are ATTEMPTING to indoctrinate our youth and young people tend to vote more Democratic than Republican. But some of us never did. Heck, I graduated from the University of Wisconsin - Madison and have always supported Republicans and Libertarians throughout my life so indoctrination doesn't always work.

The whole issue is complicated though. Any teacher is going to err on the side of teaching kids too much respect for authority rather than too little. Its not about being Liberal or Conservative, its about surviving in the classroom. A classroom is no place for anarchy and that is what you would have if the kids didn't respect the teacher's authority. Yet people who have too much faith in authority figures can become statists.
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rockfist wrote:I think it is more proper to say that Liberals are ATTEMPTING to indoctrinate our youth and young people tend to vote more Democratic than Republican. But some of us never did. Heck, I graduated from the University of Wisconsin - Madison and have always supported Republicans and Libertarians throughout my life so indoctrination doesn't always work.

The whole issue is complicated though. Any teacher is going to err on the side of teaching kids too much respect for authority rather than too little. Its not about being Liberal or Conservative, its about surviving in the classroom. A classroom is no place for anarchy and that is what you would have if the kids didn't respect the teacher's authority. Yet people who have too much faith in authority figures can become statists.


How is obedience to authority in the classroom different than obedience to authority in the workplace? Besides the fact that disobedience is much more harshly punished in the real world? Unless you're going to tell me that work makes us into statists.
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I choose whether I want to stay in that job or not. If the rules or managers are so bad, I am free to move on. Most children are not free to change schools if they do not like the rules.

Following the rules in the corporate world makes us corporatists and that is not a term I use favorably. This whole financial crisis has added a shit tonne of new rules that I have to follow and a shit tonne of new people to ask us to fill out new reports. I am tiring of the medium to large size corporate world. Some of the new regulations make sense, but a lot are just dumb. I am thinking of starting my own business or taking over a small business rather than deal with the new regulations.
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jay_a2j wrote:

Add the "Disapprove" and the "Don't know" and you are near 70%



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http://www.gallup.com/poll/126929/Slim- ... ssage.aspx

seems the majority are pleased with the passage of the bill. You are the minority after all.
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jay_a2j wrote:7% is "not even close"? How far did you get in math?

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Baron Von PWN wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:

Add the "Disapprove" and the "Don't know" and you are near 70%



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http://www.gallup.com/poll/126929/Slim- ... ssage.aspx

seems the majority are pleased with the passage of the bill. You are the minority after all.


... From Rasmussen, March 21:

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll, taken Friday and Saturday nights, shows that 41% of likely voters favor the health care plan. Fifty-four percent (54%) are opposed. These figures have barely budged in recent months.

... Who's the minority?

... Depends on the poll I suppose, but Rasmussen polls likely voters, for what that's worth.

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