An interesting hypothetical

Vincent M · Post by **Vincent M** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:57 pm

static_ice wrote:yes lethal hurts much more than you think (but then again, how would we know? )

actually I just thought of the ultimate combination: Novacaine (sp?) and ANYTHING! just numb yourself and nothing would hurt: the chair, the rope, a giant boulder, lethal injection...

Very true I like that but imagine how much novicain you would have to pump into some one

Vincent M · Post by **Vincent M** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:58 pm

Puff wrote:
Vincent M wrote:I think people are thinking lethal injection is where you just go asleep and I know that isn't the case

why have you survived it?

No Puff

They dont look happy when they get it

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:58 pm

I would go the via the guillotine way.

Vincent M · Post by **Vincent M** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:00 pm

Syzygy wrote:I would go the via the guillotine way.

Sorry out of practice :lol:

static_ice · Post by **static_ice** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:00 pm

Vincent M wrote:
static_ice wrote:yes lethal hurts much more than you think (but then again, how would we know? )

actually I just thought of the ultimate combination: Novacaine (sp?) and ANYTHING! just numb yourself and nothing would hurt: the chair, the rope, a giant boulder, lethal injection...

Very true I like that but imagine how much novicain you would have to pump into some one

who cares, they're about to die? if its the money then they can have the option to substitute their Last Meal for a barrel-o-'caine :wink:

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:00 pm

Vincent M wrote:
Puff wrote:
Vincent M wrote:I think people are thinking lethal injection is where you just go asleep and I know that isn't the case

why have you survived it?

No Puff

They dont look happy when they get it

That's because they are not waiting long enough for the sleep medicine to take effect before giving them the killing dose...

A person just died by lethal injection and people are saying it is cruel and unusual because he 'looked to be in pain'

Well, I'm pretty sure any death throws would look awful, but that doesn't mean they can FEEL anything

Anyway, who gives a f*ck? They deserve to die...

Give them to me, I'll do it... .22 bullet behind the ear, that's all it takes.

Vincent M · Post by **Vincent M** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:04 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
Vincent M wrote:
Puff wrote:
Vincent M wrote:I think people are thinking lethal injection is where you just go asleep and I know that isn't the case

why have you survived it?

No Puff

They dont look happy when they get it

That's because they are not waiting long enough for the sleep medicine to take effect before giving them the killing dose...

A person just died by lethal injection and people are saying it is cruel and unusual because he 'looked to be in pain'

Well, I'm pretty sure any death throws would look awful, but that doesn't mean they can FEEL anything

Anyway, who gives a f*ck? They deserve to die...

Give them to me, I'll do it... .22 bullet behind the ear, that's all it takes.

WOW

Vincent M · Post by **Vincent M** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:05 pm

static_ice wrote:
Vincent M wrote:
static_ice wrote:yes lethal hurts much more than you think (but then again, how would we know? )

actually I just thought of the ultimate combination: Novacaine (sp?) and ANYTHING! just numb yourself and nothing would hurt: the chair, the rope, a giant boulder, lethal injection...

Very true I like that but imagine how much novicain you would have to pump into some one

who cares, they're about to die? if its the money then they can have the option to substitute their Last Meal for a barrel-o-'caine

WOW

static_ice · Post by **static_ice** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:08 pm

its what a mother would do... O:)

RenegadePaddy · Post by **RenegadePaddy** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:18 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:Hey Paddy!

It was Oklahoma that had the firing squad kill the guy... Err, guy chose the firing squad...

He changed his mind at the last second, though... He was doing it on 'moral grounds'

Timothy McVey was gonna do the same thing, and for some reason the judge refused his request.

Really? Youd better gt and fix wikipedia then :lol:

- [mutter] bloody user submitions, full of mistakes [/mutter]

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:30 pm

Firing squad.

Backglass · Post by **Backglass** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:30 pm

static_ice wrote:yes lethal hurts much more than you think

Whether you agree with capitol punishment or not...done correctly, lethal injection is painless.

This is how it works in the USA:

Three injections.

#1 - Sodium thiopental: to induce a state of unconsciousness intended to last while the other two injections take effect. This drug used to be used for general anesthesia and when a "medically induced coma" was necessary.

#2 - Pancuronium/Tubocurarine: to stop all muscle movement except the heart. This causes muscle paralysis, collapse of the diaphragm, and would eventually cause death by asphyxiation.

#3 - Potassium chloride: to stop the heart from beating, and thus cause death. ie: Cardiac Arrest.

As you can see, when done correctly the person is essentially comatose and unable to feel pain.

static_ice wrote:(but then again, how would we know?

We know this because the first drug was used for years in countless surgeries, and nobody woke up screaming from being operated on. While the body may convulse from the 2nd and 3rd injections, they don't feel a thing.

Vincent M · Post by **Vincent M** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:25 pm

Backglass wrote:
static_ice wrote:yes lethal hurts much more than you think

Whether you agree with capitol punishment or not...done correctly, lethal injection is painless.

This is how it works in the USA:

Three injections.

#1 - Sodium thiopental: to induce a state of unconsciousness intended to last while the other two injections take effect. This drug used to be used for general anesthesia and when a "medically induced coma" was necessary.

#2 - Pancuronium/Tubocurarine: to stop all muscle movement except the heart. This causes muscle paralysis, collapse of the diaphragm, and would eventually cause death by asphyxiation.

#3 - Potassium chloride: to stop the heart from beating, and thus cause death. ie: Cardiac Arrest.

As you can see, when done correctly the person is essentially comatose and unable to feel pain.

static_ice wrote:(but then again, how would we know?

We know this because the first drug was used for years in countless surgeries, and nobody woke up screaming from being operated on. While the body may convulse from the 2nd and 3rd injections, they don't feel a thing.

Come on Backglass you cant tell me what they feel in dont feel in a coma

for dummies · Post by **for dummies** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:59 pm

i would buy a plane and fly it over yankee stadium. then i would jump out and crash onto the field hopefully leaving a bloody mess in the middle of everything. i would of course be wearing all redsox clothing. it would be amazing

stinkycheese · Post by **stinkycheese** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:29 pm

Gladiatorial Combat? Yes please.

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:47 pm

In the United States, nearly all executions are by lethal injection. Lethal injection has recently come under lots of criticism because it truly does seem to be an unnecessarily cruel and painful way to die. Most doctors refuse to participate in state executions, so usually the administrators of the injection are medically untrained. Lethal injection usually takes many minutes, and often more than half an hour to work. The most gruesome case is of a man, after writhing in pain for dozens of minutes, emphatically telling the administrators, "It's not working!"

The majority of countries that have state executions use hanging. Saudi Arabia is the last country that actively executes multiple persons a year to use beheading as the form of murder.

hecter · Post by **hecter** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:51 pm

I chose the firing squad cause it's quick and relativly painless. You stand there with you eys closed and 10 people shoot you in the head. Hanging, you suffocate if you neck doesn't break, gas chamber, you just suffocate, and btownmeggy explained lethal injection, with the electric chair, you have thousands of volts coursing through your body for sometimes quiet a while to make sure you dead.

static_ice · Post by **static_ice** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:38 am

wow this stuff is scary... what if during the group shower I just tell Jamal and Jesus (Heyzoos) that I'm gay, that way they just slit my throat with that knife they've been hiding up they're sleeve, that's just so much faster

Kahless · Post by **Kahless** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:41 am

static_ice wrote:wow this stuff is scary... what if during the group shower I just tell Jamal and Jesus (Heyzoos) that I'm gay, that way they just slit my throat with that knife they've been hiding up they're sleeve, that's just so much faster

If you told them you were gay, you'd have a different type of lethal injection to worry about :lol:

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:43 am

hecter wrote:I chose the firing squad cause it's quick and relativly painless. You stand there with you eys closed and 10 people shoot you in the head. Hanging, you suffocate if you neck doesn't break, gas chamber, you just suffocate, and btownmeggy explained lethal injection, with the electric chair, you have thousands of volts coursing through your body for sometimes quiet a while to make sure you dead.

Wrong, bro..

Only one person has a real bullet, the rest are blanks... This is so no one has to feel guilty about offing your ass.

That's why I mentioned that if the one bullet does not hit you dead center in the heart, you are gonna be in a world of hurt.

static_ice · Post by **static_ice** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:46 am

Kahless wrote:
static_ice wrote:wow this stuff is scary... what if during the group shower I just tell Jamal and Jesus (Heyzoos) that I'm gay, that way they just slit my throat with that knife they've been hiding up they're sleeve, that's just so much faster

If you told them you were gay, you'd have a different type of lethal injection to worry about

Backglass · Post by **Backglass** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:56 am

Vincent M wrote:Come on Backglass you cant tell me what they feel in dont feel in a coma

Actually...I can tell you!

I had all four of my impacted wisdom teeth removed when I was 18. It was done in a surgical center and I was knocked out with Sodium Pentathol...essentially the same drug. I felt nothing during the procedure.

They could have chopped off my arm, or stopped my heart and I would never have known it.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:58 am

Backglass wrote:
Vincent M wrote:Come on Backglass you cant tell me what they feel in dont feel in a coma

Actually...I can tell you!

I had all four of my impacted wisdom teeth removed when I was 18. It was done in a surgical center and I was knocked out with Sodium Pentathol...essentially the same drug. I felt nothing during the procedure.

They could have chopped off my arm, or stopped my heart and I would never have known it.

Oh yeah, well me and my friends decided that we were all gonna stop our hearts and see how far on the other side we could go before we were brought back to life by the rest of the group in an old creepy church...

Wait...

That was Flatliners...

static_ice · Post by **static_ice** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:59 am

maybe you were drunk and the pain turned into a dream...

obviously I have never had a drink...

Backglass · Post by **Backglass** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:01 am

Anarkistsdream wrote:That was Flatliners...

Great movie!

An interesting hypothetical

What method of execution would you pick?