ACORN cleared of all wrongdoing in probe

[silent wind]

True true, I conflated a couple of your posts. The one where you suggested some people shouldn't be allowed to vote, and the one where you suggested that Obama voters shouldn't have voted. I was, as you say, doing what many people on this thread have done. Add 1 to 1 and arrived at 2. You of course, never mentioned 2.

Do point that out. I never said that.

[Symmetry]

Nice job there fancy fucking pants... you just set a bunch of saps up to have their dreams dashed against the fucking rocks... because if they voted for Obama... guess what... turns out that he lied his fucking britches off to get into office... You should be fucking proud of your self... half the people you convinced to come to the polls have probably already realized this and have sucked off the end of a pistol... all thanks to you.

but here is the basic premise for voting. If you are too stupid to even know that you have the right to vote... or otherwise too busy to know when fucking election day is... then what fucking business do you have participating in the process that guides the nation in its policy?

So, yeah, those Obama voting saps registered by Acorn, or some such, that were either conned into casting a vote, or were not capable, in their sappishness, of understanding the process. I think I asked some of this stuff before, and I do sort of feel responsible for some of this. You do seem to have gone in to tantrum mode after I asked you to admit that ACORN didn't commit actual electoral fraud and all you do was say that you couldn't provide evidence, but still claimed it occurred.

[Woodruff]

what the f*ck ever... here is a thought...

I think there is a fucking "ignore" feature or something... fucking use it.

Why would I want to ignore fucking?

hmmm... pure genius... except that I quoted the word "ignore" indicating, in no way shape or form that you should ignore fucking... just ignore me... or foe me. or what ever the f*ck it is.

I get a great deal of pleasure out of your posts. I don't want to give that up. Watching a grown person throw a hissy fit as if dolly fell out of the pram- well, it has the fascination of watching a slow motion car crash. Disturbing, but I can't bring myself to look away.

Anyway- I should apologise, I've distracted you from your argument on why some people just shouldn't be allowed to vote if that means Obama gets in.

Carry on.

Oh my... I don't believe I ever said that... Funny... there seems to be a lot of that going on.

True...for an example, I would point to where you claimed someone implied you are a racist.

[silent wind]

Nice job there fancy fucking pants... you just set a bunch of saps up to have their dreams dashed against the fucking rocks... because if they voted for Obama... guess what... turns out that he lied his fucking britches off to get into office... You should be fucking proud of your self... half the people you convinced to come to the polls have probably already realized this and have sucked off the end of a pistol... all thanks to you.

but here is the basic premise for voting. If you are too stupid to even know that you have the right to vote... or otherwise too busy to know when fucking election day is... then what fucking business do you have participating in the process that guides the nation in its policy?

So, yeah, those Obama voting saps registered by Acorn, or some such, that were either conned into casting a vote, or were not capable, in their sappishness, of understanding the process. I think I asked some of this stuff before, and I do sort of feel responsible for some of this. You do seem to have gone in to tantrum mode after I asked you to admit that ACORN didn't commit actual electoral fraud and all you do was say that you couldn't provide evidence, but still claimed it occurred.

two separate lines of thought... two separate posts... all merged into one for a single conclusion? who the f*ck are you kidding?

[silent wind]

True...for an example, I would point to where you claimed someone implied you are a racist.

Been there, done that... put it to fucking bed.

[Symmetry]

Nice job there fancy fucking pants... you just set a bunch of saps up to have their dreams dashed against the fucking rocks... because if they voted for Obama... guess what... turns out that he lied his fucking britches off to get into office... You should be fucking proud of your self... half the people you convinced to come to the polls have probably already realized this and have sucked off the end of a pistol... all thanks to you.

but here is the basic premise for voting. If you are too stupid to even know that you have the right to vote... or otherwise too busy to know when fucking election day is... then what fucking business do you have participating in the process that guides the nation in its policy?

So, yeah, those Obama voting saps registered by Acorn, or some such, that were either conned into casting a vote, or were not capable, in their sappishness, of understanding the process. I think I asked some of this stuff before, and I do sort of feel responsible for some of this. You do seem to have gone in to tantrum mode after I asked you to admit that ACORN didn't commit actual electoral fraud and all you do was say that you couldn't provide evidence, but still claimed it occurred.

two separate lines of thought... two separate posts... all merged into one for a single conclusion? who the f*ck are you kidding?

Nobody but you- apparently a separate apple combined with another separate apple does not constitute a pair. Perhaps you could clearly articulate your general stand with relation to the thread, rather than claiming that others are arguing with the wrong statements that you've made.

Let me be really clear about this- I don't like a lot of what you're saying. I strongly disagree with it in fact. But by far and away the most irritating thing is that you simply won't say what you're arguing for. That's what entertains me, and irritates others. The mode in which you couch your arguments is poor. My last post being a clear example. I showed two posts from you, and pointed to a logical conclusion based on those. You argued that they are completely separate, as if I was irrational to put the two together.

What do you believe? Try to deal with everything that's been said and come up with a basic set of points that summarise your point of view with regards to ACORN and voting rights as a whole.

[silent wind]

I believe that if you don't give a shit enough to vote on your own accord... then you shouldn't vote. I think that if you can't name the candidates and their running mates, or how they feel about, at least the major platforms that they are running on... sit it out... stay the f*ck home... you have no business voting in the first place. Its simple, really...

You are more likely voting just because someone suggested to you that you vote...
You have no idea what the change in government is that you want.
Sstupid fucking people should not vote because they vote for stupid shit.
Voting for stupid shit makes America suck.

[Woodruff]

I believe that if you don't give a shit enough to vote on your own accord... then you shouldn't vote. I think that if you can't name the candidates and their running mates, or how they feel about, at least the major platforms that they are running on... sit it out... stay the f*ck home... you have no business voting in the first place. Its simple, really...

You are more likely voting just because someone suggested to you that you vote...
You have no idea what the change in government is that you want.
Sstupid fucking people should not vote because they vote for stupid shit.
Voting for stupid shit makes America suck.

What about when the stupid shit that Americans vote for also vote for stupid shit? How does that work?

[silent wind]

I believe that if you don't give a shit enough to vote on your own accord... then you shouldn't vote. I think that if you can't name the candidates and their running mates, or how they feel about, at least the major platforms that they are running on... sit it out... stay the f*ck home... you have no business voting in the first place. Its simple, really...

You are more likely voting just because someone suggested to you that you vote...
You have no idea what the change in government is that you want.
Sstupid fucking people should not vote because they vote for stupid shit.
Voting for stupid shit makes America suck.

What about when the stupid shit that Americans vote for also vote for stupid shit? How does that work?

I believe that you are smoking fucking dope.

[Woodruff]

I believe that if you don't give a shit enough to vote on your own accord... then you shouldn't vote. I think that if you can't name the candidates and their running mates, or how they feel about, at least the major platforms that they are running on... sit it out... stay the f*ck home... you have no business voting in the first place. Its simple, really...

You are more likely voting just because someone suggested to you that you vote...
You have no idea what the change in government is that you want.
Sstupid fucking people should not vote because they vote for stupid shit.
Voting for stupid shit makes America suck.

What about when the stupid shit that Americans vote for also vote for stupid shit? How does that work?

I believe that you are smoking fucking dope.

I'm sorry you're unable to follow a simple chain of events. But it doesn't surprise me much, given that you seem to believe someone implied you were a racist when in fact they did no such thing.

[reelkmcn]

The organization is no more.

ACORN is no more, however they have changed there name in several states to other more caring names. There is a list I am searching for today to get those names. There are supposed to be at least 10 between 6 different states. It depends on where you live I guess.

[stahrgazer]

I believe that if you don't give a shit enough to vote on your own accord... then you shouldn't vote. I think that if you can't name the candidates and their running mates, or how they feel about, at least the major platforms that they are running on... sit it out... stay the f*ck home... you have no business voting in the first place. Its simple, really...

You are more likely voting just because someone suggested to you that you vote...
You have no idea what the change in government is that you want.

This implies that the voters I registered were unaware of who was running, whom they might be running with (not all run with someone) or what those candidates were saying about their major platforms. From experience, I can tell you, that wasn't so. What was so, for a majority of those people is, they'd given up because of the extreme political bashing that was occurring (similar to the spouting here, with no proof, that someone was doing nothing but lying when he outlined a plan he'd like Congress and Senate to support - plans that he's continued to stress regardless of the lack of support from those whose motives are probably less 'the people' and more 'the moneyholders'). So, they needed a little encouragement to register; encouragement that some of us provided (I'm a Republican, btw) that either overcame their frank disbelief, or more, overcame their apathy so that they decided that contributing to a choice was better than staying home.

Sstupid fucking people should not vote because they vote for stupid shit.
Voting for stupid shit makes America suck.

Ahh, you're back to hundreds of years ago, defining who should and shouldn't vote based on their disagreement with what you would like to see happen, because you want to believe they're "stupid."waddle waddle quack quack

[Woodruff]

Sstupid fucking people should not vote because they vote for stupid shit.
Voting for stupid shit makes America suck.

Ahh, you're back to hundreds of years ago, defining who should and shouldn't vote based on their disagreement with what you would like to see happen, because you want to believe they're "stupid."waddle waddle quack quack

See, now here she is CLEARLY making the implication.

Previously, she was just as clearly not.

[notyou2]

Silent, if we all voted like you we wouldn't need elections because their would only be one party. I think the name of your party would start out as the republicans but I expect by the end of it the name of the party would be the autocratic party of america

[MeDeFe]

I fart on trolling multies, acorns are awesome.

[Phatscotty]

I fart on trolling multies, acorns are awesome.

stay on topic!

We wish this were an aberration, but allegations of fraud have tainted Acorn voter drives across the country. Acorn workers have been convicted in Wisconsin and Colorado, and investigations are still under way in Ohio, Tennessee and Pennsylvania.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial ... =110009189

Fraud Map :: Rotten Acorn ::

Recent Fraud

State Year Details
AR 1998 A contractor with ACORN-affiliated Project Vote was arrested for falsifying about 400 voter registration cards.
CO 2005 Two ex-ACORN employees were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.
2004 An ACORN employee admitted to forging signatures and registering three of her friends to vote 40 times.
CT 2008 The New York Post reported that ACORN submitted a voter registration card for a 7-year-old Bridgeport girl. Another 8,000 cards from the same city will be scrutinized for possible fraud.
FL 2009 In September, 11 ACORN workers were accused of forging voter registration applications in Miami-Dade County during the last election. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the state attorney’s office scoured hundreds of suspicious applications provided by ACORN and found 197 of 260 contained personal ID information that did not match any living person.
2008 Election officials in Brevard County have given prosecutors more than 23 suspect registrations from ACORN. The state's Division of Elections is also investigating complaints in Orange and Broward Counties.
2004 A Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said ACORN was “singled out” among suspected voter registration groups for a 2004 wage initiative because it was “the common thread” in the agency’s fraud investigations.
IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.
MI 2008 Clerks in Detroit found a "sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent [voter] applications" from the Michigan branch of ACORN. Those applications have been turned over to the U.S. Attorney's office for investigation.
2004 The Detroit Free Press reported that “overzealous or unscrupulous campaign workers in several Michigan counties are under investigation for voter-registration fraud, suspected of attempting to register nonexistent people or forging applications for already-registered voters.” ACORN-affiliate Project Vote was one of two groups suspected of turning in the documents.
MO 2008 Nearly 400 ACORN-submitted registrations in Kansas City have been rejected due to duplication or fake information.
2007 Four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City for charges including identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election.
2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.
2003 Of 5,379 voter registration cards ACORN submitted in St. Louis, only 2,013 of those appeared to be valid. At least 1,000 are believed to be attempts to register voters illegally.
MN 2004 During a traffic stop, police found more than 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of a former ACORN employee, who had violated a legal requirements that registration cards be submitted to the Secretary of State within 10 days of being filled out and signed.
NC 2008 County elections officials have sent suspicious voter registration applications to the state Board of Elections. Many of the applications had similar or identical names, but with different addresses or dates of birth.
2004 North Carolina officials investigated ACORN for submitting fake voter registration cards.
NM 2008 Prosecutors are investigating more than 1,100 ACORN-submitted voter registration cards after a county clerk found them to be fraudulent. Many of the cards included duplicate names and slightly altered personal information.
2005 Four ACORN employees submitted as many as 3,000 potentially fraudulent signatures on the group’s Albuquerque ballot initiative. A local sheriff added: “It’s safe to say the forgery was widespread.”
2004 An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote. Citing this and other examples, New Mexico State Representative Joe Thompson stated that ACORN was “manufacturing voters” throughout New Mexico.
NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called “Blackjack” or “21+” for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law.
2008 Nevada state authorities raided ACORN's Las Vegas headquarters as part of a task force investigation of election fraud. Fraudulent registrations included players from the Dallas Cowboys.
OH 2008 ACORN activists gave Ohio residents cash and cigarettes in exchange for filling out voter registration card, according to the New York Post. Some voters claim to have registered dozens of times, and one man says he signed up on 72 cards.
2007 A man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties.
2004 A grand jury indicted a Columbus ACORN worker for submitting a false signature and false voter registration form. In Franklin County, two ACORN workers submitted what the director of the board of election supervisors called “blatantly false” forms. In Cuyahoga County, ACORN and its affiliate Project Vote submitted registration cards that had the highest rate of errors for any voter registration group.
PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.
2008 State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found "clearly fraudulent" signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud.
2008 An ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail.
2004 Reading’s Director of Elections received calls from numerous individuals complaining that ACORN employees deliberately put inaccurate information on their voter registration forms. The Berks County director of elections said voter fraud was “absolutely out of hand,” and added: “Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registration but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations.” The Berks County deputy director of elections added that ACORN was under investigation by the Department of Justice.
TX 2008 In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information.
2008 ACORN turned in the voter registration form of David Young, who told reporters “The signature is not my signature. It’s not even close.” His social security number and date of birth were also incorrect.
VA 2005 In 2005, the Virginia State Board of Elections admonished Project Vote and ACORN for turning in a significant number of faulty voter registrations. An audit revealed that 83% of sampled registrations that were rejected for carrying false or questionable information were submitted by Project Vote. Many of these registrations carried social security numbers that exist for other people, listed non-existent or commercial addresses, or were for convicted felons in violation of state and federal election law.

In a letter to ACORN, the State Board of Elections reported that 56% of the voter registration applications ACORN turned in were ineligible. Further, a full 35% were not submitted in a timely manner, as required by law. The State Board of Elections also commented on what appeared to be evidence of intentional voter fraud. "Additionally,” they wrote, “information appears to have been altered on some applications where information given by the applicant in one color ink has been scratched through and re-entered in another color ink. Any alteration of a voter registration application is a Class 5 Felony in accordance with § 24.2-1009 of the Code of Virginia."
WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.
WI 2008 At least 33,000 ACORN-submitted registrations in Milwaukee have been called into question after it was found that the organizations had been using felons as registration workers, in violation of state election rules. Two people involved in the ongoing Wisconsin voter fraud investigation have been charged with felonies.
2004 The district attorney’s office investigated seven voter registration applications Project Vote employees filed in the names of people who said the group never contacted them. Former Project Vote employee Robert Marquise Blakely told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he had not met with any of the people whose voter registration applications he signed, “an apparent violation of state law,” according to the paper.

[notyou2]

Enough trolls here already Scotty.....move along

[MeDeFe]

I fart on trolling multies, acorns are awesome.

stay on topic!

My kettle will smash your pot any day!

[Phatscotty]

Better be a large kettle. I dont play with anything smaller than a cauldron.

[Phatscotty]

Enough trolls here already Scotty.....move along

laying out the largest, fact based case possible against the author and the topic is still Trolling?

Sweet

[notyou2]

Phatty, go buy a sense of humour

[Phatscotty]

Phatty, go buy a sense of humour

Only if I like ya

[john9blue]

Why is it that people choose to post in Conquer Club when they are drunk? I don't understand what is so special about this place. In any case, I am glad.

[Symmetry]

I fart on trolling multies, acorns are awesome.

stay on topic!

We wish this were an aberration, but allegations of fraud have tainted Acorn voter drives across the country. Acorn workers have been convicted in Wisconsin and Colorado, and investigations are still under way in Ohio, Tennessee and Pennsylvania.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial ... =110009189

Fraud Map :: Rotten Acorn ::.

Just a heads up- Silent Wind already posted that, and ended up admitting that it wasn't evidence of electoral fraud. Fun times, nevertheless.

[stahrgazer]

Sstupid fucking people should not vote because they vote for stupid shit.
Voting for stupid shit makes America suck.

Ahh, you're back to hundreds of years ago, defining who should and shouldn't vote based on their disagreement with what you would like to see happen, because you want to believe they're "stupid."waddle waddle quack quack

See, now here she is CLEARLY making the implication.

Previously, she was just as clearly not.

I'm implying nothing; I'm simply pointing out his comments' similarity to history, and telling him he's walking and quacking like historical ducks.