German/Italian Unif.[D, Gp, Gr] BETA, all files p.1

[Gilligan]

Yeah... I'm looking into this... I did a quick check on germany and it looked like the circles were 22 px, I dunno about the Italian map...

That seems about right. Germany was easier to center than Italy.

[Industrial Helix]

Actually... I think I want to drop the circles...

Italy looks like it will be just fine as long as the numbers don't sit on a color division...

Here's Germany:

[bigimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/Shone/GermanUnificationLARGEGOLD-7.jpg[/bigimg]

I don't think the dark region poses much of a problem at all...

[natty dread]

Well, to me the blue numbers do look a bit blurry on the dark region... Is there any way you could adjust the region just a tiny nudge brighter?

[ender516]

Well, to me the blue numbers do look a bit blurry on the dark region... Is there any way you could adjust the region just a tiny nudge brighter?

Even if it were just in the area of the number. Sort of a troop smudge, instead of a troop circle.

[natty dread]

Well, to me the blue numbers do look a bit blurry on the dark region... Is there any way you could adjust the region just a tiny nudge brighter?

Even if it were just in the area of the number. Sort of a troop smudge, instead of a troop circle.

nah, it would look weird if only one region had these "smudges". Just brighten the colour I say...

[AndyDufresne]

I'm actually fond of Troop Shadows---I think they add a sense of grounding and structure to the map---without 'em I feel like things often look haphazard.


--Andy

[ender516]

Well, to me the blue numbers do look a bit blurry on the dark region... Is there any way you could adjust the region just a tiny nudge brighter?

Even if it were just in the area of the number. Sort of a troop smudge, instead of a troop circle.

nah, it would look weird if only one region had these "smudges". Just brighten the colour I say...

Well, it might if the smudges were only under the numbers, but it might not if these irregularities appeared all over the region as a texture, and "just happened" to fall behind the troop numbers. There's no need to lighten the entire region, just enough patches to give the contrast needed for the numbers.

[natty dread]

So now you want to cover it with blotches... sure, let's make it look like germany has chicken pox

I still think brightening the region would be the best choice. It doesn't even need to be brightened very much. Just so that the blue numbers won't look messy.

[Industrial Helix]

So now you want to cover it with blotches... sure, let's make it look like germany has chicken pox

I still think brightening the region would be the best choice. It doesn't even need to be brightened very much. Just so that the blue numbers won't look messy.

I lightened it up just a tad. Looks better in my opinion.

[bigimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/Shone/GermanUnificationLARGEGOLD-8.jpg[/bigimg]

[natty dread]

Yeah, that does look better. Blue numbers should at least be legible now. Good job.

[Gilligan]

So are we ditching the circles for both maps?

[natty dread]

Yes I think so. I assume IH wants to keep the style of the map similar, as they are closely related to each other.

[Industrial Helix]

Gilligan, can you post the links to the XML for both maps? I think we should just run the XML on the latest images and tweak it from there.

Here's an updated Italian version:

[bigimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/Shone/ItalianUnificationLARGE-22.png[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/Shone/ItalianUnificationSMALL-9.png[/bigimg]

And Germany:

[bigimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/Shone/GermanUnificationSMALL-11.png[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/Shone/GermanUnificationLARGEGOLD-9.png[/bigimg]

[Gilligan]

With or without circles?

[Industrial Helix]

Let's try without.

[MrBenn]

While you're correct in saying that you don;t need to use army circles, part of me thinks the map looks more complete with them there; you may want to compromise and have them with a very low opacity so that they're barely noticeable?

Either way, it doesn't really matter

[Gilligan]

This is with the same coordinates as the circled map.

[bigimg]http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m164/gills53/NewItaly.png[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m164/gills53/NewItaly2.png[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m164/gills53/NewGermany.png[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m164/gills53/NewGermany2.png[/bigimg]

[Kabanellas]

This is looking very, very good!!

Little error in the legend – With Venez’e’ia (small and large Italian map)

About numbers location:
-I would place ‘Nice’ legend a bit below, or rearrange the numbers location, so the 888 won’t cover the letters. (Italian map)

[Industrial Helix]

Big Italy looks good, once I move nice over.

Little Italy: Lazio and Marche could be moved off the borders. Tarento a little up and over to the right.

Big Germany: Looks good.

Little Germany: Hamburg could go up 2 and over right 3 pixels. Hannover left a bit so the third digit will fit, same for Trier. Otherwise looks good.

Here's the revised images for Italy:

[bigimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/Shone/ItalianUnificationSMALL-10.jpg[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/Shone/ItalianUnificationLARGE-23.jpg[/bigimg]

[iancanton]

the xml needs the start positions inserted.

on the italy map, i recommend 3 start positions on magenta, solferino and custoza to stop someone from dropping the +3 lombardo-venetien bonus

ian.

[Industrial Helix]

I agree... how does that work in more than 3 player games? Will players 1-3 automatically get one of those regions? Or is it just any player will get one of those regions?

[natty dread]

The starting positions are ignored when number of players > number of starting positions.

[Industrial Helix]

So essentially, all it would do is prevent a player from dropping the bonus region in a 1-3 layer game?

Sounds like we ought to just code it neutral 3.

[natty dread]

I'd say, put a neutral 3 in custoza. Leave the others as regular territories.

[Industrial Helix]

I'd say, put a neutral 3 in custoza. Leave the others as regular territories.

Custoza is too crucial of a territory as it links north with the south and austria with piemont... make it magenta or solferino.