ladies and gentlemen i bring you: the worst people, ever

[khazalid]

oh right, so now you find child abuse funny?

YOU MONSTER.

uh-pthhhhhhhhhhhh (2x)

well failed.

[SultanOfSurreal]

oh right, so now you find child abuse funny?

YOU MONSTER.

uh-pthhhhhhhhhhhh (2x)

well failed.

have you been huffing paint or something

just curious

[Falkomagno]

Seriously, those women are crazy bitches. They are ruining Danielle's life, and their ignorance treating a human being it's totally stunning and unpunished. It makes me feel bad actually.

[Woodruff]

http://fosterparentmaze.blogspot.com/

Your ability to overstate the severity of a problem clearly knows no bounds.

so are you going to stick with this snide little comment or are you going to step up to the plate and defend these foster parents
cause i ain't got the time for you if you're just going to snipe at me like a pussy. ain't. got. the. time. full stop.

Why would I defend them? I'm merely saying that they're not even REMOTELY "the worst people, ever" and if you honestly believe they are (which I seriously doubt), then your ability to discuss adult topics is seriously undermined by the fact that you haven't even begun to have a modicum of experience in the real world. Yet if you don't believe that, then my point stands well in and of itself.

[SultanOfSurreal]

Your ability to overstate the severity of a problem clearly knows no bounds.

so are you going to stick with this snide little comment or are you going to step up to the plate and defend these foster parents

cause i ain't got the time for you if you're just going to snipe at me like a pussy. ain't. got. the. time. full stop.

Why would I defend them? I'm merely saying that they're not even REMOTELY "the worst people, ever" and if you honestly believe they are (which I seriously doubt), then your ability to discuss adult topics is seriously undermined by the fact that you haven't even begun to have a modicum of experience in the real world. Yet if you don't believe that, then my point stands well in and of itself.

[muy_thaiguy]

Certainly not the worst one I ever read, as that is headed by the femi-nazi one that cawk mongler posted 2 years ago or so. Sadly, the last time I went to check on it (6 months ago I think), it no longer existed.

[SultanOfSurreal]

femi-nazi

hey, thanks for popping in to remind us that your opinions are worthless

see you on the flipside!

[muy_thaiguy]

femi-nazi

hey, thanks for popping in to remind us that your opinions are worthless

see you on the flipside!

When you read a forum that has a bunch of women insisting on spelling "women" as "womyn" and something about how one of them was wishing that their son was born a girl (along those lines), you would say that as well.

And next time, read what I said, as I never said it was a load of bull or anything such.

[SultanOfSurreal]

:roll: When you read a forum that has a bunch of women insisting on spelling "women" as "womyn" and something about how one of them was wishing that their son was born a girl (along those lines), you would say that as well.

it's ridiculous to be sure but the term "feminazi" is literally the stupidest single word a human being can utter, outside of maybe "sheeple"

it also betrays a complete ignorance of feminism's history and the context in which that detestable word was coined. but then again, if i remember correctly you're one of the guys who thinks matt shepherd was killed for meth, so i suppose i can't expect you to have a reasonable grasp on such trifling concepts as tact or critical thinking

[muy_thaiguy]

:roll: When you read a forum that has a bunch of women insisting on spelling "women" as "womyn" and something about how one of them was wishing that their son was born a girl (along those lines), you would say that as well.

it's ridiculous to be sure but the term "feminazi" is literally the stupidest single word a human being can utter, outside of maybe "sheeple"

it also betrays a complete ignorance of feminism's history and the context in which that detestable word was coined. but then again, if i remember correctly you're one of the guys who thinks matt shepherd was killed for meth, so i suppose i can't expect you to have a reasonable grasp on such trifling concepts as tact or critical thinking

And I suppose you are one of those people that were sold on that "Laramie and the entire state of Wyoming is teh bigoted state because 1 guy was horribly beaten and died and happened to be gay!"

But, I digress, as neither what I just posted, nor your post on the Matthew Shepherd thread has anything to do with the topic at hand. So, thank you for changing the subject while throwing an ad hominem attack at me, as that is about as capable as you are when it comes to these threads.

[SultanOfSurreal]

And I suppose you are one of those people that were sold on that "Laramie and the entire state of Wyoming is teh bigoted state because 1 guy was horribly beaten and died and happened to be gay!"

i was one of those people who correctly called a hate crime a hate crime

[daddy1gringo]

http://fosterparentmaze.blogspot.com/

Your ability to overstate the severity of a problem clearly knows no bounds.

so are you going to stick with this snide little comment or are you going to step up to the plate and defend these foster parents
cause i ain't got the time for you if you're just going to snipe at me like a pussy. ain't. got. the. time. full stop.

Why would I defend them? I'm merely saying that they're not even REMOTELY "the worst people, ever" and if you honestly believe they are (which I seriously doubt), then your ability to discuss adult topics is seriously undermined by the fact that you haven't even begun to have a modicum of experience in the real world. Yet if you don't believe that, then my point stands well in and of itself.

Sultan, I’ve got to agree with Woodruff. Have you ever even raised kids? It's obvious you have never been a foster parent and raised anyone else's. You have no concept of the real abuse that goes on.

Sounds like they’re in way over their heads, but “worst people in the world”? Get real.

Some of the punishments seem excessive, and probably are, but it’s easy to judge from a safe distance. The worst thing is when they got frustrated with having their lives threatened by false accusations of sexual abuse (which can get you killed in prison besides ruining your life in other ways) and yelled at the kid that they'd be happy if she left. Bingo! You're right, that was wrong. You're supposed to stay perfectly calm and always express unconditional love and acceptance, directing your comments only at the behavior. They failed. Words like that can leave emotional scars. You never do anything like that with the foster and adopted kids you have raised, right?

With most of what I saw, I have to wonder where you’re coming from. They took away her MP3 player! Oooooh, what brutality! They made her clean up the mess she made! Heavens, the inhumanity! They respond to her physical attack on the mother by calling the police and letting her experience the consequences of assaulting and injuring another person! Unthinkable!

Seriously, are you one of those kids who has called DCF that your parents were starving you because they wouldn't let you get more spaghetti until you ate your veggies?

[PLAYER57832]

Being a parent, being a mandated abuse reporter, these people are, sadly, nothing close to the "worst people ever". (I did go to the site, once I realized it was not so bad).

Further, the whole tone, particularly the obvious references to homosexuality make the entire thing questionable. It really seems like someone wanting to provide "evidence" of how horrible homosexuals are as foster parents.

That said, there are jerks of all stripes. I repeat what I said earlier. Anyone concerned should at least check into the idea of becoming a Foster Parent. It is a big commitment and definitely not for everyone. But, it in no way requires perfection. Chances are, even at your worst, you would be better than putting a kid in Juvenile detention because there is no other space.

[Woodruff]

Your ability to overstate the severity of a problem clearly knows no bounds.

so are you going to stick with this snide little comment or are you going to step up to the plate and defend these foster parents

cause i ain't got the time for you if you're just going to snipe at me like a pussy. ain't. got. the. time. full stop.

Why would I defend them? I'm merely saying that they're not even REMOTELY "the worst people, ever" and if you honestly believe they are (which I seriously doubt), then your ability to discuss adult topics is seriously undermined by the fact that you haven't even begun to have a modicum of experience in the real world. Yet if you don't believe that, then my point stands well in and of itself.

I always knew that you and Thornheart were cut from the same whole cloth.

[khazalid]

jeez guys, can't you see it was a JOKE? i, sultanofsurreal, am so far above you, i wouldn't even deign to shit on your heads.

if you need me i'll be rimming myself in a corner.

sincerely

SoS

[happy2seeyou]

jeez guys, can't you see it was a JOKE? i, sultanofsurreal, am so far above you, i wouldn't even deign to shit on your heads.

if you need me i'll be rimming myself in a corner.

sincerely

SoS

hahaha poor khaz

[khazalid]

che, i've been hacked!

[SultanOfSurreal]

With most of what I saw, I have to wonder where you’re coming from. They took away her MP3 player! Oooooh, what brutality! They made her clean up the mess she made! Heavens, the inhumanity! They respond to her physical attack on the mother by calling the police and letting her experience the consequences of assaulting and injuring another person! Unthinkable!

Seriously, are you one of those kids who has called DCF that your parents were starving you because they wouldn't let you get more spaghetti until you ate your veggies?

god. this is hopeless. you fucking dolts wouldn't be able to see that two and two make four if i spent twelve hours painstakingly explaining it.

these people spent two years fighting for custody of a problem child they were completely unprepared to care for. this is a girl who was sexually and physically abused, and they routinely tell her she's going to be kicked out on her 18th birthday when she refuses to do dishes. do you really think that's gonna make her more responsible, or help her in any way?

they tell her (and the whole world), straight-up, that they're not saving for her college -- even though they can afford it -- because she's not "college material."

they wake her up at midnight to do chores.

they called her a whore.

and these are the things they are willing to admit to in public. imagine the things they say behind closed doors.

when she's actually living up to their impossibly high standards, they chalk it up to manipulation and wonder out loud how long it will last. is it any wonder danielle lashes out?

i'm not even going to get into the arbitrary and over-strict nature of their punishments, which are a lot crazier than simply revoking use of an MP3 player. these people are awful parents. awful. they got a bug up their ass to raise a troubled child and now that they've seen the depths of the challenge inherent to that, they've become bitter, spiteful, and mean.

i mean, jesus, how broken do you have to be to make a blog dedicated to how terrible your daughter is? just think about that for a second. these should be private issues, and the parents are airing them for the whole internet. now how do you think danielle would react if she found out about it? do you think it would be very conducive to solving her behavioral issues? i don't.

[Phatscotty]

I don't give a shit where people like to stick it.

Then how do you explain THIS??

the debate is OVER

that was out of plain curiousity. And here we are talking about homosexuals specifically, as you pointed out the other thread was sex in general.

NOW the debate is over!

[PLAYER57832]

With most of what I saw, I have to wonder where you’re coming from. They took away her MP3 player! Oooooh, what brutality! They made her clean up the mess she made! Heavens, the inhumanity! They respond to her physical attack on the mother by calling the police and letting her experience the consequences of assaulting and injuring another person! Unthinkable!

Seriously, are you one of those kids who has called DCF that your parents were starving you because they wouldn't let you get more spaghetti until you ate your veggies?

god. this is hopeless. you fucking dolts wouldn't be able to see that two and two make four if i spent twelve hours painstakingly explaining it.

these people spent two years fighting for custody of a problem child they were completely unprepared to care for. this is a girl who was sexually and physically abused, and they routinely tell her she's going to be kicked out on her 18th birthday when she refuses to do dishes. do you really think that's gonna make her more responsible, or help her in any way?

they tell her (and the whole world), straight-up, that they're not saving for her college -- even though they can afford it -- because she's not "college material."

they wake her up at midnight to do chores.

they called her a whore.

and these are the things they are willing to admit to in public. imagine the things they say behind closed doors.

when she's actually living up to their impossibly high standards, they chalk it up to manipulation and wonder out loud how long it will last. is it any wonder danielle lashes out?

i'm not even going to get into the arbitrary and over-strict nature of their punishments, which are a lot crazier than simply revoking use of an MP3 player. these people are awful parents. awful. they got a bug up their ass to raise a troubled child and now that they've seen the depths of the challenge inherent to that, they've become bitter, spiteful, and mean.

i mean, jesus, how broken do you have to be to make a blog dedicated to how terrible your daughter is? just think about that for a second. these should be private issues, and the parents are airing them for the whole internet. now how do you think danielle would react if she found out about it? do you think it would be very conducive to solving her behavioral issues? i don't.

I agree it sounds terrible.. but its a little to "pat" terrible. Add in the homosexual part and I really have suspicions.

[PLAYER57832]

Here is a very true story:
Take the case of 3-year-old Eli Johnson, who was apparently beaten to death last year for wetting his pants. Now, his mother and her boyfriend are in jail.

Oklahoma City police say the boyfriend told them that he slapped Eli and punched him in the stomach with his fist. And that he got so angry he blacked out, and came to when he had Eli's head stuck in the water of the toilet.

"He was just a sweet little boy," says Eli's great grandmother, Evelyn Johnson. "I just cannot imagine anybody doing such a thing."

Johnson says she had suspected Eli was being abused and reported her suspicions to authorities almost a year before he died. "The signs really started about the time they decided they wanted to potty train him," she says.

The result of her report? Eli's mother was required to take an anger-management class before she could get her son back. Now she and her boyfriend are awaiting trial for first-degree murder, to which both have pleaded not guilty


Link to story on impact of funding cuts on childwelfare, etc. from which I took that excerpt: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =124127356

[daddy1gringo]

That /\ is what horrible child abuse and candidates for worst in the world look like.

[SultanOfSurreal]

That /\ is what horrible child abuse and candidates for worst in the world look like.

you're right. until they beat the kid to death they're not abusing her

[Neoteny]

I think this thread got really silly. Some people are downplaying this because they can think of "worse people." Others are downplaying it because they have the notion that physical abuse, and even death, are worse than years and years of emotional abuse. This is arguable. The simple fact is that these people are terrible parents and should not be taking care of the kid. I think Sultan's classification of them as the worst people stems not from their actual abuse, which is bad enough, but the fact that they are so baldfaced about discussing it publicly. The people who use their infants as a baseball bat and all those other clean-cut physical abuse cases often show some sort of remorse. These people (assuming they are legit) show no inkling of regret other than that of deciding to take care of the girl. They should be ashamed of their actions (even if they don't beat the shit out of her) but they clearly do not. That's despicable.

[mpjh]

sultan, you have been punked.