CC is risking losing its paying customers!!!

[donkeymile]

I have complained before ... took a week off .... and now have come back to the same old bullshit. Today I've played some games - lost most of them, mostly within 4 rounds based on ridiculously lopsided bullshit dice .... and won ONE game that I should never have won but kept winning against what should have been insurmountable odds.

SOMETHING IS WRONG ..... even the opponents who beat me agree that its bullshit, and that this site has taken a dive for the worst lately.

I am down about 400 points .. after being down 700 a couple of times.

This site risks losing some of its paying patrons if things don't get better - and that DOES include dropping bonuses because that is an EASY fix.

This site has just amazed me with how strange the dice have become .... there is no way the dice have evened out for me the past while. Many have agreed that its some real bullshit going on. I really WANT to stay but if this continues I am done with this bullshit.

I come here for an enjoyable game - hopefully a battle ... win or lose I don't care so long as it was close to fair most of the time .... that has not happened since about September or so. I keep giving it a chance to improve but I don't see it happening.

Pay attention to the game chat mods .... you will see that there is a serious groundswell of disapproval going around the past while.


SOMETHING is wrong!!!!

[Fruitcake]

I have complained before ... took a week off .... and now SOMETHING is wrong!!!!

Yup.

[AndyDufresne]

Most people tend to remember the bad, horrible, terrible things that happen to oneself throughout the day---more so than the pleasant or neutral things.

Additionally---for the most part, we only really see half our rolls (since the majority of players on Conquer Club do not see their defending rolls because they are away from the game). Perhaps your opponents are cursing the intensity cubes while you are away?

The intensity cubes/dice/harbingers of misfortune are always an issue---because it is one part of the game that you really "can't control" ---you can control your strategy, your ideas for moves, diplomacy, etc---but as always, when something is out of one's control...that irks us the most.


--Andy

[ronsizzle]

i have good times with dice, and bad times...get over it.

[2dimes]

You should play Nuke spoils. Those will pretty much be rigged against you too.

[Trephining]

I would suggest that you log your visible rolls, and that of your opponents, for at least the next 5000 rolls (not kidding on the amount).

Then look and see what the distribution of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 are you for each of you and your opponent.

[AndyDufresne]

I would suggest that you log your visible rolls, and that of your opponents, for at least the next 5000 rolls (not kidding on the amount).

Then look and see what the distribution of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 are you for each of you and your opponent.

Though most of the forum regulars know about the Dice Analyzer---here is a link for those that may be unaware. Keep track of your rolls and compare the distribution and see if there is any skewment!

The Dice Analyzer


--Andy

[Snowgun]

this site wouldn't be as exciting if the rolls weren't fixed.

[Snowgun]

I would suggest that you log your visible rolls, and that of your opponents, for at least the next 5000 rolls (not kidding on the amount).

Then look and see what the distribution of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 are you for each of you and your opponent.

Though most of the forum regulars know about the Dice Analyzer---here is a link for those that may be unaware. Keep track of your rolls and compare the distribution and see if there is any skewment!

The Dice Analyzer


--Andy

Ha! you don't think the people who brought you skewed dice can't bring you a skewed dice analyzer? HA

[AndyDufresne]

Conquer Club didn't create the Plugin---it is all user-created love.


--Andy

[Snowgun]

:D Conquer Club didn't create the Plugin---it is all user-created love.


--Andy

Like we'd know if CC had a hand in it or not. This was obviously a black ops maneuver.

Drink the Koolaid people, DRINK IT NOW!

[Snowgun]

ha ha, so I installed dice analyser for shits and giggles, and my first game it turns out like this:

wins/ties/losses percentage

actual stats
12.5 / 37.5 / 50

ideal stats
37.17 / 33.58 / 29.26

HAHAHAHA, what bullshit! I know it's a small sample, but it's nice to have evidence i'm getting dice fucked

[lord voldemort]

i get amazing dice...like i think mine are unfair

[Snowgun]

i get amazing dice...like i think mine are unfair

You didn't read the fine print in the mod contract? All mods get wicked dice, like check out our tourny game with Eye84free

Game 6389516

he takes a neutral 2, then a neutral 4, then a neutral 7, with a 9, and has 6 guys left! since it was poland, he essentually won on the first turn.

[AgentSmith88]

In the long run the cubes may even out, but many times I get on and the dice are unbelievably hot or cold. I find they are often more streaky than would happen if I were rolling actual dice. That being said, I recognize this fact and adjust strategy accordingly. Bitching about dice isn't going to change anything, so either get over it or leave. The numbers come from random.org and nothing about how you get what you get for dice rolls is changing.

[donkeymile]

I will try the analyzer ... but I still contend that something is seriously wrong.

I also agree that one tends to dwell on the negative side of things in a day - as in the tend to stand out more .... HOWEVER .....

I do remember the good streaks too, I may have a had about 3 really good ones the past year compared to numerous really bad ones. If I was the only one complaining, I wouldn't be so concerned but I'm not, and not by a mile ... many I come in contact with agree. And many have talked about letting their membership expire as well.

This site has so much to offer - but it makes no sense when the dice act the way they do so regularily.

It is beyond me how some people have the ranks they do ... with a much less winning percentage than me .... because the dice must not be acting the same way it is for some of the rest of us.

I have lost 100's of points in no time at all, and then spend painstaking months trying to crawl back up. Logically it makes no sense.

Anyway, I will be trying out that dice analyzer and hoping for the best. Hoping I get proven wrong ... though I doubt it very much.

[Snowgun]

In the long run the cubes may even out, but many times I get on and the dice are unbelievably hot or cold. I find they are often more streaky than would happen if I were rolling actual dice. That being said, I recognize this fact and adjust strategy accordingly. Bitching about dice isn't going to change anything, so either get over it or leave. The numbers come from random.org and nothing about how you get what you get for dice rolls is changing.

Agent has spoken. We just gotta take it in the ass people.

Also according to Agent, If you are prepared for it, it doesn't hurt as much....

[vodean]

complaining about dice was invented at McGill University in 2236

[frankiebee]

Random dice are never fair, it's absolutely normal that sometimes your dice is shit.
If your dice is shit, somebody else's dice is good.
If your dice is good, somebody else's dice is shit.

If the dice would be absolutely fair and even out in every single game, the dice wouldn't be random.

[Woodruff]

I have complained before ... took a week off .... and now have come back to the same old bullshit.

I definitely think you should quit CC and never come back. It worked for me.

[Snowgun]

If the dice would be absolutely fair and even out in every single game, the dice wouldn't be random.

No, but if they were pegged at the average win loss percentages........I'd be kicking ass with my uberleet tactics.

Now I just get pwned by the dice.

[edsdad]

Just lost a game when the defender rolled 5 double 6 's in a row.I 've played lots of board game but never seen anything like it. . And yes the thought of packing it in as crossed my mind.

[jammyjames]

this site wouldn't be as exciting if the rolls weren't fixed.

Very true point

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

21,000 active members. Thats the most I have seen in a long time. Something is wrong with your title ?

[L M S]

CC is not losing me.