Italy [Quenched]

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:52 am

Five man. Def the best.

MonRepos · Post by **MonRepos** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:13 pm

I say 2, 5, and then 3.
But definitely the best one is 1...

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:50 pm

3 is the most standard, but kinda boring I think...

I vote for 5, but to be honest...any of them would be fine.

RjBeals · Post by **RjBeals** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:03 pm

1) I prefer this water, so I made a executive decision

2) Removed the shaded circles. Seeing all the recent discussion, I started looking more closely at them, and realized I much prefer the map w/out them.

3) Added testing numbers (not XML) to see how the colors looked - I had to adjust some colors in order for the numbers to show up better.

4) Adjusted some borders so numbers would fit "in" the countries. Didn't like to do this as I would prefer to keep the borders as realistic as possible, but since I have city bonuses, the borders are no where near to scale, so I figured it wouldn't hurt to make them even better in order to improve the map.

5) Very slightly changed waterway lines.

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Countries: 36

Color Countries Borders Bonus
Green 7 2 3
Orange 5 2 2
Pink 10 6 5
Purple 8 5 4
Yellow 6 3 4

Comments?

Levon II · Post by **Levon II** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:42 pm

I think it looks really good.

Also, can't wait to play it! :lol:

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:00 pm

water looks great, wasnt my favorite but is probably better, all things considered.

could you:
-move some of the territory names slightly farther away from the borders, like roma and lazio, so the fuzziness from the labels doesnt affect the border lines?

-make the capitol city colours slightly darker, especially venezia?

-and this isnt very important, but maybe make the flag a little less bold, to fit better with the rest of the colour scheme

i love the unique look of this map- cant wait to play it!

Bad Speler · Post by **Bad Speler** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:22 pm

Three points

- The word Bonus is a bit hard to read when it gets to the white part of the flag.
- The number on Napoli is a bit hard to read for me, try lightening that city a bit.
- For me, Venezia doesnt stand out enough in its continent, try darkening that city a bit.
edit: 1 more point I just noticed, see if you could move the number for Eolie islands a bit so it doesnt cover te sea route.

Sargentgeneral · Post by **Sargentgeneral** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:25 pm

there is no way that purple and yellow should have the same bonus. yellow only has to guard 3 boarders while purple has to guard 5! Yellow has 6 countries while purple has 8! 4 countries can attack yellow while 6 can attack purple. i think you could bump yellow down easily to 3 and bump purple up to 5.

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:46 am

Visually the only things that I do not like are:

1. The font used for Italia. The fact that the small l is bigger than the capital I makes it look a bit weird in my opinion. Can you provide some alternatives maybe?
2. Venezia...I agree with the point made before by someone else. It needs darkening a bit as it does not stand out enough.

Apart from that everything looks fine.

Edit: Maybe the outer lines of the word bonus could be made slightly thicker so that it is clearer on the white stripe of the flag.

RjBeals · Post by **RjBeals** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:34 am

Good Feedback - thanks.
I'll work on this stuff maybe later today or early next week.

neoni · Post by **neoni** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:43 am

looks amazing. i can't wait to play

Molacole · Post by **Molacole** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:58 am

isole and centro bonus are very unbalanced.

3 borders for a +4 is kind of easy to hold. Plus makes getting roma for a bonus of 5 with 4 borders very easy to accomplish.

6 borders for a 5 is way too hard to hold. It's smack dab right in the middle of the map so it's going to be a nuetral territory not worth fighting over for 5 points.

any chance you could make those sea ports instead of bridges that don't reach the other side?

Bad Speler · Post by **Bad Speler** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:00 am

I just noticed Centro has 7 borders to defend...consider upping the bonus a bit.

santon836 · Post by **santon836** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:23 am

Maybe make San Marina also a capital/city/citta or whatever.
It would raise the bonus by one, and for the largest continent I think it's oke.

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:28 am

im not sure I like the white fade borders on the fonts...but its just a personal opinion...

also liguria text does not have the same fade as the others...

RjBeals · Post by **RjBeals** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:52 pm

* Move some of the territory names slightly farther away from the borders, like roma and lazio, so the fuzziness from the labels doesnt affect the border lines?
* Make the capitol city colours slightly darker, especially venezia?
* Make the flag a little less bold, to fit better with the rest of the colour scheme.
* The word Bonus is a bit hard to read when it gets to the white part of the flag.
* The number on Napoli is a bit hard to read for me, try lightening that city a bit.
* Venezia doesnt stand out enough in its continent, try darkening that city a bit.
* Move the number for Eolie islands a bit so it doesnt cover te sea route.
* Bump yellow down easily to 3 and bump purple up to 5.

Changes:
1) Took "glow" off of country names.
2) Made country names white
3) Changed bonus armies
4) Adjusted colors / positions of some country names. I'm having troble with the dark purple & dark green city colors being too dark. So I made them lighter.
5) Provided some alternate title fonts.

Not Changed:
* Any chance you could make those sea ports instead of bridges that don't reach the other side? Not unless other people want it. I like how it is

* Maybe make San Marina also a capital/city/citta or whatever. I think the new bonus armies should take care of this request.

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Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:46 pm

I like number 2 best, followed by number 5.

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:10 pm

Number 2 all the way.

I really like this map, not a huge fan of the texture though. Looks gritty. :wink:

RjBeals · Post by **RjBeals** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:35 pm

do you like the white names / rather than black in previous maps?

LewisJB3 · Post by **LewisJB3** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:47 pm

I like number six.... but so far I'm out voted

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:51 pm

2 and 6. Nice map too, btw. I'm not sure about the white names though..

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:58 pm

I think the black text is best, but perhaps have some sort of light coloured effect behind it.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:00 pm

2 and 5 equally. I'm not 100% sure about the white names, however.

Also, just wanted to compliment you on having one of the best couple of maps (graphically) in development at the moment.

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:06 pm

I think the black text was better, more legible...

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:09 pm

Another thing RJ...was there any particular reason for leaving out Milano from the cities because I forgot? Milano is the most important Italian city after Roma and I thought that it deserved to be on an Italia map, but maybe you had some specific reason for not using it?