Politics

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:29 pm

I took the test, and and scored right-authoritarian. On their little scale, I'm about where John Howard is, only a bit further to the right.

Basically, I'm a conservative Republican, who's unhappy with the current party. McCain is the last person I want to win the nomination next year. I support the war, in fact, I think we should be doing more. I'm against illegal immigration (not legal, most all of us are children of immigrants, just do it legally!). Anyway, I don't want to get into too much... so I'll leave it here.

Caleb the Cruel · Post by **Caleb the Cruel** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:04 am

I am anti-homosexuality.
I am anti-abortion(unless mother's life is threatened).
I am anti-Seperation of Church & State.
I am pro-Afghanistan War.
I am pro-Iraq War.
I am pro-Immigration.
I am anti-Illegal Immigration.
I am pro-Higher Minimum Wage.
I am anti-Many Social Programs.
I am pro-National Healthcare System.
I am anti-Nuclear Power.
I am pro-Nuclear Weapons(for stable nations)
I am pro-Giving Public Funding to Non-Public Schools.
I am anti-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies.
I am pro-Bush.
I am anti-Hillary.
I am anti-Obama.
I am anti-Edwards.
I am pro-McCain(generally).
I am pro-Rudy.
I am anti-Most Stem Cell Research.

Vincent M · Post by **Vincent M** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:08 am

Caleb the Cruel wrote:I am anti-homosexuality.
I am anti-abortion(unless mother's life is threatened).
I am anti-Seperation of Church & State.
I am pro-Afghanistan War.
I am pro-Iraq War.
I am pro-Immigration.
I am anti-Illegal Immigration.
I am pro-Higher Minimum Wage.
I am anti-Many Social Programs.
I am pro-National Healthcare System.
I am anti-Nuclear Power.
I am pro-Nuclear Weapons(for stable nations)
I am pro-Giving Public Funding to Non-Public Schools.
I am anti-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies.
I am pro-Bush.
I am anti-Hillary.
I am anti-Obama.
I am anti-Edwards.
I am pro-McCain(generally).
I am pro-Rudy.
I am anti-Most Stem Cell Research.

Right wing moron

DIRESTRAITS · Post by **DIRESTRAITS** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:25 am

I am a miniarchist capatilist

vtmarik · Post by **vtmarik** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:35 am

I am Pro-nothing
I am Anti-nothing

When I see politics, I run the other way very fast.

I am NPA.
And damnit, I feel good about that.

Genghis Khant · Post by **Genghis Khant** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:55 am

Caleb the Cruel wrote:I am anti-homosexuality.
I am anti-abortion(unless mother's life is threatened).
I am anti-Seperation of Church & State.
I am pro-Afghanistan War.
I am pro-Iraq War.
I am pro-Immigration.
I am anti-Illegal Immigration.
I am pro-Higher Minimum Wage.
I am anti-Many Social Programs.
I am pro-National Healthcare System.
I am anti-Nuclear Power.
I am pro-Nuclear Weapons(for stable nations)
I am pro-Giving Public Funding to Non-Public Schools.
I am anti-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies.
I am pro-Bush.
I am anti-Hillary.
I am anti-Obama.
I am anti-Edwards.
I am pro-McCain(generally).
I am pro-Rudy.
I am anti-Most Stem Cell Research.

I'm so glad I don't have to deal with you in real life. I only agree with you on three points here (in bold).

As the late Bill Hicks once said, "I think God put you here to test my faith".

Vincent M · Post by **Vincent M** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:17 am

Caleb the Cruel wrote:I am anti-homosexuality.
I am anti-Seperation of Church & State.
I am anti-Many Social Programs.
I am pro-National Healthcare System.
I am anti-Nuclear Power.
I am pro-Nuclear Weapons(for stable nations)
I am anti-Most Stem Cell Research.

these are my favorite

vtmarik · Post by **vtmarik** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:46 am

Genghis Khant wrote:I'm so glad I don't have to deal with you in real life. I only agree with you on two, possibly three, points here.

As the late Bill Hicks once said, "I think God put you here to test my faith".

Bill Hicks wrote:Have you ever noticed how pro-life people all have that same look? That scrunched face, disgusted look?

"I'm Pro-Life!"
Ew, you look it! You look like your filled with life!

I've also found that face, is the same face that non-smokers have.

"I'm pro-life. I'm a non-smoker. I'm a pro-life non-smoker."
Oh man, I wanna party with you and play twister!
"That's pornographic!"

All the kids looking at people like that chanting "Please don't adopt me. Please don't adopt me!"

heavycola · Post by **heavycola** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:39 am

vtmarik wrote:
Genghis Khant wrote:I'm so glad I don't have to deal with you in real life. I only agree with you on two, possibly three, points here.

As the late Bill Hicks once said, "I think God put you here to test my faith".

Bill Hicks wrote:Have you ever noticed how pro-life people all have that same look? That scrunched face, disgusted look?

"I'm Pro-Life!"
Ew, you look it! You look like your filled with life!

I've also found that face, is the same face that non-smokers have.

"I'm pro-life. I'm a non-smoker. I'm a pro-life non-smoker."
Oh man, I wanna party with you and play twister!
"That's pornographic!"

All the kids looking at people like that chanting "Please don't adopt me. Please don't adopt me!"

GOD I LOVE THAT MAN. Bill Hicks, i mean, although i am sure vtmarik is a lovely guy.

Hicks on politics (applies over here these days, too):
"'I believe the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.'
'Well, I believe the puppet on the left is more to my liking.'
'Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding up both puppets!'
"Go back to bed, America, your government is in control. Here's Love Connection, watch this and get fat and stupid. By the way, keep drinking beer, you morons.'" :lol:

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:53 am

Caleb the Cruel wrote:I am anti-homosexuality.
I am anti-abortion(unless mother's life is threatened).
I am anti-Seperation of Church & State.
I am pro-Afghanistan War.
I am pro-Iraq War.
I am pro-Immigration.
I am anti-Illegal Immigration.
I am pro-Higher Minimum Wage.
I am anti-Many Social Programs.
I am pro-National Healthcare System.
I am anti-Nuclear Power.
I am pro-Nuclear Weapons(for stable nations)
I am pro-Giving Public Funding to Non-Public Schools.
I am anti-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies.
I am pro-Bush.
I am anti-Hillary.
I am anti-Obama.
I am anti-Edwards.
I am pro-McCain(generally).
I am pro-Rudy.
I am anti-Most Stem Cell Research.

Now what the hell? The bold ones I agree with. But let me say that it is impossible to be anti-homosexuality, because it will always be there. Also seperation of chruch and state is what made us a superpower in the first place - don't trye to take it away.

I am somewhat liberal, I am opposed to pretty much anything in Caleb's list that isn't in bold.

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:18 am

My own take... my changes are in italics

I am anti-homosexuality.
I am anti-abortion(unless mother's life is threatened).
I am anti-Seperation of Church & State.
I am pro-Afghanistan War.
I am pro-Iraq War.
I am pro-Immigration.
I am anti-Illegal Immigration.
I am anti-Higher Minimum Wage.
I am anti-Many Social Programs.
I am anti-National Healthcare System.
I am pro-Nuclear Power.
I am pro-Nuclear Weapons(for the USA, UK, and Israel, and open on it for other allies)
I am anti-Giving Public Funding to Non-Public Schools.
I am anti-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies.
I am pro-Bush.
I am anti-Hillary.
I am anti-Obama.
I am anti-Edwards.
I am anti-McCain
I am pro-Rudy.
I am anti-Most Stem Cell Research.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:48 am

On the compass I got:

Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.00

Well into the Libertarian Left, somewhere along the lines of a more extreme Ghandi!

I suppose thats somewhere near my actual political views.

As for political party, in the absence of a true Leftist or Socialist party in the UK I think I'm likely to vote labour in the next election as they have the most hope of doing at least some good in this country. Cameron and the tories will mess things up a treat, and the Lib Dems are too confused as to what they believe in these days. I don't neccessarily agree with the majority of Labour's politics but its the best of a bad bunch in my opinion.

In international politics, I believe we live in a Realist international system, but that we shouldn't surrender to that and should still strive towards multilateral organisations such as the UN.

As for this list thats knocking around...

I am pro-homosexual rights (you can't be anti or pro homosexuality itself, its a fact!

I am pro-abortion

I am pro-Seperation of Church & State.

I am anti-Afghanistan War.
I am anti-Iraq War.
BUT pro-finishing the job rather than pulling out and cutting our losses.

I am pro-Immigration.
I am pro-Illegal Immigration.
to the extent that I am PRO-open borders. People should really be able to go where they like.

I am pro-Higher Minimum Wage.

I am pro-Many Social Programs.

I am pro-National Healthcare System.

I am anti-Nuclear Power.

I am anti-Nuclear Weapons

I am annti-Giving Public Funding to Non-Public Schools.

I am anti-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies.

As for the US politicians, I won't comment here.

I am pro-Most Stem Cell Research.

AlgyTaylor · Post by **AlgyTaylor** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:21 am

I'm liberal left. Voted for Lib Dems, the Liberal Party and the Green Party

I believe strongly in the communal ownership of land and natural resources. I also believe that public services - transport, healthcare, etc. should be owned and run by the state.

"The state" should be elected, with every vote counting (proportional representation sort of thing).

All manufacturing and retail should be free market.

I also believe that each individual has the right to do whatever they want provided it harms no others - take drugs, get fat, smoke, gamble their money away, watch porn ... if that's what they want to do, fine. Provided the state provides some support to help them stop doing whatever it is, everything's fair game.

Poltical compass:
economic: -6.50
social: -7.74

Makes Mandela & The Dalai Lama look like right wing loonies

Going off that list

I am pro-all human rights, be they sexual preference or anything else
I am pro-abortion
I am pro-Seperation of Church & State.
I am anti-Afghanistan War.
I am anti-Iraq War.
I am pro-Immigration.
I am anti-Illegal Immigration - but do think the immigration laws should be far more open than they are at the moment
I am pro-Higher Minimum Wage.
I am pro-Many Social Programs.
I am pro-National Healthcare System.
I am pro-Nuclear Power.
I am anti-Nuclear Weapons
I am anti all non-Public Schools.
I am pro-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies in certain circumstances
I am pro-giving money to public broadcasting companies
I am pro-all Stem Cell Research.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:32 am

Communal ownership of land and resources but a free market economy? Thoguth you'd have been more along the lines of state-owned looking at the rest of your views...

AlgyTaylor · Post by **AlgyTaylor** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:37 am

Nah, only reason for communal ownership of land and resources is to be able to sensibly regulate their usage for the long term benefit of the people. You need to encourage invention (free market), but to keep a stable environment for future generations innit.

flashleg8 · Post by **flashleg8** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:01 am

Guiscard wrote:
As for this list thats knocking around...

I am pro-homosexual rights (you can't be anti or pro homosexuality itself, its a fact!

I am pro-abortion

I am pro-Seperation of Church & State.

I am anti-Afghanistan War.
I am anti-Iraq War.
BUT pro-finishing the job rather than pulling out and cutting our losses.

I am pro-Immigration.
I am pro-Illegal Immigration.
to the extent that I am PRO-open borders. People should really be able to go where they like.

I am pro-Higher Minimum Wage.

I am pro-Many Social Programs.

I am pro-National Healthcare System.

I am anti-Nuclear Power.

I am anti-Nuclear Weapons

I am annti-Giving Public Funding to Non-Public Schools.

I am anti-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies.

As for the US politicians, I won't comment here.

I am pro-Most Stem Cell Research.

This is the only one I'd change - I'm pro nuclear power, all the rest are fine by me!

heavycola · Post by **heavycola** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:04 am

Well, I believe in the soul, the #cough#, the #ahem#, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days. Goodnight.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:06 am

heavycola wrote:Well, I believe in the soul, the #cough#, the #ahem#, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days. Goodnight.

You believe Oswald acted alone?!?!?!

INSANITY, I say!

flashleg8 · Post by **flashleg8** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:13 am

heavycola wrote:Well, I believe in the soul, the #cough#, the #ahem#, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days. Goodnight.

I prefer Islay whiskys, laphroaig is my current favourite.

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:13 am

Oh, here's a contentious issue I haven't noticed anyone mentioning:

How do you feel about GMOs?

flashleg8 · Post by **flashleg8** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:16 am

btownmeggy wrote:Oh, here's a contentious issue I haven't noticed anyone mentioning:

How do you feel about GMOs?

If you mean Genetically modified Organisms, I strongly support this research, and I feel it is a possible solution to the problems facing third world farmers/climate change. Although I'm probably the only one in my field (Environmental)

AlgyTaylor · Post by **AlgyTaylor** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:09 pm

flashleg8 wrote:I prefer Islay whiskys, laphroaig is my current favourite.

Yes. Islay whiskys are awfully nice. btw - are you from Larkhall (in Lanarkshire)? My ex-flatmate was from there ...

GMO's ... depends. Provided it doesn't harm the natural environment, no problem. Otherwise - case by case, but usually against 'em.

Jesse, Bad Boy · Post by **Jesse, Bad Boy** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:31 pm

My turn with the list!

I don't care about homosexuality. It's your/their choice.
I am pro womans right to do what she wants with her body, which includes abortion.
I am anti-Church. Additionally, I am anti-State.
I am anti-War
I am pro-Immigration.
I am pro-Illegal Immigration. (Illegal Immigration is the States method of denying contracts and interfering with businesses.)
I am pro-Whatever wage the market can handle.
I am anti-All Social Programs.
I am pro-Whatever the market demands.
I am anti-giving my money to people who did not earn my money, including schools.
I am anti-Politicians
I am pro-Whatever the market can handle.
In regards to GMO, I am pro whatever the market can handle
I am anti-Corporatist.
I am anti-Taxation.
I am pro-gun ownership.

edmundomcpot · Post by **edmundomcpot** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:21 pm

left libertarian according to the link

qeee1 · Post by **qeee1** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:27 pm

I like real breasts.