WWII:Poland [Quenched]

[samuelc812]

Attempt Number #2 to fix the legibility problem, what do you think?


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[bigimg]http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv83/samc812/PolandV19Large.jpg[/bigimg]

~Sam

[natty dread]

It looks good to me, but then I never had any problems with the original version...

[the.killing.44]

Too blurry…

[ender516]

I think the new light text is an improvement on the black.

[Nola_Lifer]

It makes it complete.

[MrBenn]

Having spoken with sam, he's going to try and make the text a bit less blurry: Then we'll get the image uploaded and out of beta

[samuelc812]

Update: Made the text less blurry, now we're ready to go i think

[bigimg]http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv83/samc812/PolandV20Small.jpg[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv83/samc812/PolandV20Large.jpg[/bigimg]

~Sam

[MrBenn]

That look heaps better.

I'll send those images to lack forthwith...

[ender516]

That look heaps better.

I'll send those images to lack forthwith...

Best of all, the new text colour matches the legend border, which looks better than either the black or white.

[SirSebstar]

i wanted to comment the one center commander cannot reacht the paf, this should be rectified

[samuelc812]

i wanted to comment the one center commander cannot reacht the paf, this should be rectified

It doesn't matter if they do or not, as players do not start with the centre Commanders.

~Sam

[joriki]

This is very good idea for a map -- two-player games are interesting because with the secure +3 autodeploys you always have a chance to catch up even if you fall behind a bit, whereas on most maps once you're down by a couple of territories the difference in deployment becomes decisive.

One thing you might want to reconsider, though: the starting positions differ significantly. Each starting position can directly attack one plane and one tank (let's call them "DA" for directly attackable). But some of the DA planes can be attacked from opponents' DA tanks, some can only be attacked from their own DA tank and some can only be attacked from non-DA tanks. That makes it more or less difficult to attack them. I've played two two-player games so far and won them both partly because I was able to attack my opponents' DA planes from my DA tanks but they weren't.

It's OK to have some degree of variability in the starting positions, so this might be an intended feature; just thought I'd point it out.

Anyway, thanks for a great map!

[SirSebstar]

i wanted to comment the one center commander cannot reacht the paf, this should be rectified

It doesn't matter if they do or not, as players do not start with the centre Commanders.

~Sam

actually it does, there is a weak spot in the card on the left and a strong one on the right because of the 'wrong' placement of the commanders. taking the one that does not connect to paf just blows

[MrBenn]

Having had a closer look at the map and discussed it with the other CAs, we are of the opinion that while the commander positions are not equally/perfectly evenly distributed.

The differences allow for different strategies in different gametypes, and the distance from PAF provides a useful place to stack armies in a foggy game, for example...

Despite the differences, they are not substantial enough to cause significant imbalance, particualrly when considered in conjunction with the neutral values of surrounding territories.

[MrBenn]

Quenching

---The Beta period has concluded for the WWII: Poland Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready to be released into live play.

Congratulations samuelc812, your shiny new medal is well-earned


Conquer Club, enjoy!

--MrBenn

[samuelc812]

Quenching

---The Beta period has concluded for the WWII: Poland Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready to be released into live play.

Congratulations samuelc812, your shiny new medal is well-earned


Conquer Club, enjoy!

--MrBenn

Thanks MrBenn

~Sam

[alfredv]

This map has a serious problem - i was left with only one airfield and from there on i could not capture any other country - so i couldn't continue my game although i was still alive

[natty dread]

This map has a serious problem - i was left with only one airfield and from there on i could not capture any other country - so i couldn't continue my game although i was still alive

Yeah, it happens. Get premium and it doesn't matter.

[jleonnn]

Gratz, sam I made a fortune off your map

[jefjef]

I notice that there are dead plane terts. Why not make it so each deploy has 2 planes it can attack. That would improve the game and put to use some never used terts.

Heck even have shared plane terts to combat over. That would add another dimension to the map.

Enjoy the btw. Good work.

[lostatlimbo]

How did this map get quenched????

There's a major flaw - at the bottom, it appears very clear that you can attack SU01 to Edward Rydz-Smigly.

After the impassable ends, there is a line that looks just look the other normal territory borders. Though it is lightly obscured by the frilly golden ornamental shit, you can still clearly make out a territory line.

Why don't you make the impassable go all the way to the edge? This is stupid.

[samuelc812]

What difference does it make? It says clearly in the Legend that Planes can ONLY bombard tanks, they cannot attack anything. So who would be mistaken to think that SU01 could attack Edward Rydz-Smigly ?

Hardly a Major flaw.

~Sam

[00iCon]

What about vice versa? ERS attacks Su01.
Though I agree it is so minor only someone whining about losing too many games would pick up on it. If it takes no effort though it should be fixed.

[natty dread]

What about vice versa? ERS attacks Su01.
Though I agree it is so minor only someone whining about losing too many games would pick up on it. If it takes no effort though it should be fixed.

Yeah this has never caused me any problems. But I don't suppose it would be a huge effort to extend the barb wire all the way down.

[lostatlimbo]

What difference does it make? It says clearly in the Legend that Planes can ONLY bombard tanks, they cannot attack anything. So who would be mistaken to think that SU01 could attack Edward Rydz-Smigly ?

Hardly a Major flaw.

~Sam

Then why have the impassable border with SU02? Or any of the other commander/plane borders?

The legend is not clear. "Planes can only bombard tanks" can be taken to mean that Planes cannot attack tanks, only bombard them. I took it to mean they can attack other territories normally, but that tanks are the only ones limited to bombardment.

It is not clear that this is their only available action for all territories. You need to be more careful with your wording.