Jamaica

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:28 pm

natty_dread wrote:For the record, the icons do look very nice now.

Excellent to hear

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:33 pm

isaiah40 wrote:I don't like that glow, it makes the icons look like they are pasted on, and not part of the map.

i hope these are better for you now

porkenbeans · Post by **porkenbeans** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:58 pm

Thank you cairns,
I am so glad that you are understanding me, and know that I am trying to help in a constructive sort of way.

When I said that I don't read the thread, I should have been more precise with my words. I should have added an "initially" in there.

Back to the map. I took your map into photoshop to try and show you, just what I was talking about with the drop shadow on the legend. Well I got that done, but found myself having such a blast that I kept going. To me, It just kept looking better and better. I am sure that not all will agree, but that's the way I see it.
Anyways, Here is what I came up with. I hope that you will see something, that you may want to use.
[bigimg]http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv12/porkenbeans/jamframe.png[/bigimg]

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:03 pm

porkenbeans wrote:Thank you cairns,
I am so glad that you are understanding me, and know that I am trying to help in a constructive sort of way.
When I said that I don't read the thread, I should have been more precise with my words. I should have added an "initially" in there.

Back to the map. I took your map into photoshop to try and show you, just what I was talking about with the drop shadow on the legend. Well I got that done, but found myself having such a blast that I kept going. To me, It just kept looking better and better. I am sure that not all will agree, but that's the way I see it.
Anyways, Here is what I came up with. I hope that you will see something, that you may want to use.

pnb, that is one of the most constructive posts i've seen in a long time and i thank you, sincerely for taking the time to show what you mean.

I like the way that inset lifted the legend away from the map.
I don't know if i can do some of that in Coreldraw, but i'll give it a go.
Watch this space.

ender516 · Post by **ender516** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:20 pm

cairnswk wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:Thank you cairns,
I am so glad that you are understanding me, and know that I am trying to help in a constructive sort of way.
When I said that I don't read the thread, I should have been more precise with my words. I should have added an "initially" in there.

Back to the map. I took your map into photoshop to try and show you, just what I was talking about with the drop shadow on the legend. Well I got that done, but found myself having such a blast that I kept going. To me, It just kept looking better and better. I am sure that not all will agree, but that's the way I see it.
Anyways, Here is what I came up with. I hope that you will see something, that you may want to use.

pnb, that is one of the most constructive posts i've seen in a long time and i thank you, sincerely for taking the time to show what you mean. I like the way that inset lifted the legend away from the map.
I don't know if i can do some of that in Coreldraw, but i'll give it a go.
Watch this space.

I too like the depth added by the shading. Basically it is the next step on the same path that was started with version 24. I doubt you could take it much further in this direction, but I look forward to seeing your take on this, [player]cairnswk[/player].

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:42 pm

cairnswk wrote:
[bigimg]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282/cairnswk/jamaica/Jamaica_V28L.jpg[/bigimg]

These images look pretty good to me.
I'd caution against suggesting any overhauls now - maybe a slight tweak here or there could be beneficial, but I think you need to be careful not to overdo things.

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:43 pm

Final Forge

---The Jamaica Map has reached the ‘Final Forge’ Stage. The map has passed rigorous gameplay and graphics examinations, and major concerns have been addressed. If you have any other concerns, please make your voice heard. If after a reasonable amount of time there has not been any objection or protest, the map will be deemed finished with the 'Foundry Brand' of approval and will be submitted for live play. As long as there is still discussion or posts that have yet to be commented on, the map will remain in Final Forge until said discussion has reached the conclusion that the map has reached its final and polished version.

Post questions and concerns if any.

isaiah40 · Post by **isaiah40** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:44 pm

MrBenn wrote:
Final Forge

---The Jamaica Map has reached the ‘Final Forge’ Stage. The map has passed rigorous gameplay and graphics examinations, and major concerns have been addressed. If you have any other concerns, please make your voice heard. If after a reasonable amount of time there has not been any objection or protest, the map will be deemed finished with the 'Foundry Brand' of approval and will be submitted for live play. As long as there is still discussion or posts that have yet to be commented on, the map will remain in Final Forge until said discussion has reached the conclusion that the map has reached its final and polished version.

Post questions and concerns if any.

Congrats cairns!! Finally!!

the.killing.44 · Post by **the.killing.44** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:47 pm

Yes, please leave the legend as is. The separation by decor adds to the old-style feel, whereas a noisy (in both Photoshop and real terms) drop shadow is less authentic.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:50 pm

isaiah40 wrote:...
Congrats cairns!! Finally!!

Cheers isaiah40

MrBenn wrote:...
These images look pretty good to me.
I'd caution against suggesting any overhauls now - maybe a slight tweak here or there could be beneficial, but I think you need to be careful not to overdo things.

Thanks for FF MrBenn.

I'd like to propose V29 be accpeted...it's as far as i'd want to go with that depth charge of pnb's.

And having said that, could you advise what tweaks you you were thinking of MrBenn please.

EDIT: I've dropped the shadow back by 50%. I think this should be OK now?

[bigimg]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282/cairnswk/jamaica/Jamaica_V29L.jpg[/bigimg]

http://www.bigottergames.com/downloads/jamaicaV26.xml

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:51 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:Yes, please leave the legend as is. The separation by decor adds to the old-style feel, whereas a noisy (in both Photoshop and real terms) drop shadow is less authentic.

Is V29 suitable above...44?
i wasn't planning on changing the legend any further.

the.killing.44 · Post by **the.killing.44** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:55 pm

cairnswk wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:Yes, please leave the legend as is. The separation by decor adds to the old-style feel, whereas a noisy (in both Photoshop and real terms) drop shadow is less authentic.

Is V29 suitable above...44?
i wasn't planning on changing the legend any further.

I'd go back to v28, personally.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:28 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:Yes, please leave the legend as is. The separation by decor adds to the old-style feel, whereas a noisy (in both Photoshop and real terms) drop shadow is less authentic.

Is V29 suitable above...44?
i wasn't planning on changing the legend any further.

I'd go back to v28, personally.

OK, I've dropped the shadow back to 50% transparency.....does it look any better? PLease f5 to see the changes above.

the.killing.44 · Post by **the.killing.44** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:34 pm

I'd reduce the size (and maybe distance) as well.

samuelc812 · Post by **samuelc812** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:36 am

Congrats on FF cairns, our first J Map

dolomite13 · Post by **dolomite13** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:26 am

Looks great cairn... if none of the unit circles have moved and no borders or connections changed and no territory names changed since I did the xml I think it is ready to be checked as well.

=D=

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:05 pm

dolomite13 wrote:Looks great cairn... if none of the unit circles have moved and no borders or connections changed and no territory names changed since I did the xml I think it is ready to be checked as well.

=D=

dolomite13. some of the unit circles have been movd because of the increase in the icons.
Kngston Harbour & Falmouth are teh two that come to mind, but there is also centering issues to take care of as some of those units are off the mark.

Thanks.

dolomite13 · Post by **dolomite13** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:51 pm

cairnswk wrote:
dolomite13 wrote:Looks great cairn... if none of the unit circles have moved and no borders or connections changed and no territory names changed since I did the xml I think it is ready to be checked as well.

=D=

dolomite13. some of the unit circles have been movd because of the increase in the icons.
Kngston Harbour & Falmouth are teh two that come to mind, but there is also centering issues to take care of as some of those units are off the mark.
Thanks.

I will redo the unit locations this weekend as my GF is out of town sat & sun so I have plenty of time on my hands =)

=D=

dolomite13 · Post by **dolomite13** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:01 am

OK have a look at the coordinates etc ...

Please make a list of anything you see that needs to be changed =)

=D=

Map Maker - http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php
SMALL - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29S.jpg
LARGE - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29L.jpg
XML - http://www.bigottergames.com/downloads/jamaicaV29.xml

"Summary: 0 errors and 0 warnings detected in jamaicaV29.xml (48 continents, 52 territories)"

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:28 am

dolomite13 wrote:OK have a look at the coordinates etc ...

Please make a list of anything you see that needs to be changed =)

=D=

Map Maker - http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php
SMALL - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29S.jpg
LARGE - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29L.jpg
XML - http://www.bigottergames.com/downloads/jamaicaV29.xml

"Summary: 0 errors and 0 warnings detected in jamaicaV29.xml (48 continents, 52 territories)"

Dolomite13
there are major centering issues which require attention if you would please.
Can you recheck all the coordinates.

dolomite13 · Post by **dolomite13** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:35 am

cairnswk wrote:Dolomite13
there are major centering issues which require attention if you would please.
Can you recheck all the coordinates.

Will do ... check the other things like connections and names and let me know if ya see any problems there.

=D=

dolomite13 · Post by **dolomite13** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:20 pm

I have been making updates to v29 of the xml for coordinates. So far I have adjusted the ships and the main land alphabetically through Morant... I will continue on this sometime this evening (I hope) =)

=D=

dolomite13 · Post by **dolomite13** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:59 am

I centered a few more but not all of them yet... I only work 1/2 day tomorrow so I will finish them then.

Almost There =)

=D=

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:27 am

dolomite13 wrote:I centered a few more but not all of them yet... I only work 1/2 day tomorrow so I will finish them then.

Almost There =)

=M=

Thanks dolomite13

dolomite13 · Post by **dolomite13** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:11 pm

OK it's ready to rock =)

Map Maker - http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php
SMALL - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29S.jpg
LARGE - http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... a_V29L.jpg
XML - http://www.bigottergames.com/downloads/jamaicaV29.xml

=D=

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