AndyDufresne wrote:GabonX wrote:Before espousing the merits of gun registration, do a bit of research regarding how many crimes have been solved as a result. There have been next to none, anywhere, in any state or country.
*Edit: This is despite huge amounts of money being poured into the registration system, though, I guess by Obama's definition this would qualify as "stimulus."
Perfect sense...makes sense not to even try.
--Andy
The reason that gun registration doesn't work. If someone wants to commit a crime with a gun that is registered in their name, they aren't going to leave it at the crime scene. This just doesn't happen and it makes gun registration a fruitless endeavor.
Logic and experience both have showed that registration does not solve crimes. Registration has however been used in other countries, and certain US States, to identify gun owners prior to siezure of fire arms.
Frankly, they aren't fooling anyone.
InkL0sed wrote:Alright. Apology accepted.
In that video, Olbermann was criticizing Bush for using national security as an excuse to ignore the Constitution, much like John Adams, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR all did. Regardless of whether or not you agreed with the policy, that is valid criticism to make. He did not encourage anyone to kill anyone else, nor did he speak for anyone else. The fact that it did not go as far as internment of citizens does not mean that the bill was Constitutional. Olbermann was essentially saying that this bill was making it possible.
Glenn Beck, on the other hand, more than implies that Obama is killing American citizens, by metaphorically pouring gasoline over them and set them on fire.
If one watches both of these things accepts what both of them are saying is true, there is a logical (or at least expected) reaction to both.
To Olbermann's segment, if you care enough about it, you call your Congressman, stage a protest, probably you vote Democrat next election (or at least someone who seems very unlikely to do the same thing).
To Glenn Beck (and this is assuming you believe him) - what do you do? You believe your government is trying to kill you. If you're already, shall we say, a loose cannon, you may very well shoot a police officer.
How are those two things equivalent?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNIQG7WXpSM: A series of quotes taken out of context. This exemplifies one of the worst methods to practice propaganda in use today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNp9GSbFQhQ: It's a metaphor for how our economy and greater way of life is being burned. President or not, we don't think Obama has the right to tell us what to do whether that regards guns, excessive taxes, or anything else. We had an election for a President, not a slave master.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJtU4dKS_pY: Olberman is such a good speaker that he can actually twist a point around with words to make things which have nothing to do with each other seem related. Obama has flip flopped on his position regarding gun control (specifically the assault weapons ban) and this is a good thing. If however this is just a lip service and he goes back on his word (again) it would be seen as the first of terrible things to come.
Some things ARE worth fighting for.
