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Re: (poll)SPEED GAMES TIME OPTIONS

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I really want this to go through... 1-2 min is more than enough for almost all speed games.

I don't see why it would be any problem in adding several options on the round length
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Re: (poll)SPEED GAMES TIME OPTIONS

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by HardAttack » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:12 am

i know you are very far in thinking of the point i will make for sure. Anyways what i am afraid of is this 1 minute 2 minutes speed games wud create more farmers but this time farming wud turn from newbie farming into corporal and less or even sergeant farming. Believe me there will be a group of players which will perfect themselves in some spesific maps in high speeds....

I think that farming is solve,with some new restrictions for high ranked players.

Any way,these is free decision for any player,if player think that 1 minute its enough ,then he will take 1 minute, if think that need 5 minute then he will take 5 minute. I dont see any bad things abouth these idea.
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Re: SPEED GAMES TIME OPTIONS

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egri_bikaver wrote:That's silly...

How can you play a turn in one minute (without my seconds to added after action suggestion ;) )?

Think about it. Deploy, attack, cash-in, cash-in again if you conquer a player who has cards, reinforce. No way.

But it is possible if my options are implemented... see this post:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=73282


Lots of players don't think it's silly, and nobody is going to force you to play anything. I can see 1-minute Doodle Assassins. World 2.0 is a map that would be better with a full 5; I like the idea of options, and I really hope this happens!
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Re: (poll)SPEED GAMES TIME OPTIONS

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qwert wrote:
by HardAttack » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:12 am

i know you are very far in thinking of the point i will make for sure. Anyways what i am afraid of is this 1 minute 2 minutes speed games wud create more farmers but this time farming wud turn from newbie farming into corporal and less or even sergeant farming. Believe me there will be a group of players which will perfect themselves in some spesific maps in high speeds....

I think that farming is solve,with some new restrictions for high ranked players.

Any way,these is free decision for any player,if player think that 1 minute its enough ,then he will take 1 minute, if think that need 5 minute then he will take 5 minute. I dont see any bad things abouth these idea.


you dont see any bad n this cos you are not a thief. You are a clean and trusty, also a player who cares about rules and conveniences... So it doesnt seem to you anything wrong here.. But thieves always look for gaps to infiltrate in, they always try to catch the weakness of system. That is why you most probably can not see mate .. This idea is perfect but also will create new problems.
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Re: SPEED GAMES TIME OPTIONS

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iambligh wrote:
egri_bikaver wrote:That's silly...

How can you play a turn in one minute (without my seconds to added after action suggestion ;) )?

Think about it. Deploy, attack, cash-in, cash-in again if you conquer a player who has cards, reinforce. No way.

But it is possible if my options are implemented... see this post:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=73282


Lots of players don't think it's silly, and nobody is going to force you to play anything. I can see 1-minute Doodle Assassins. World 2.0 is a map that would be better with a full 5; I like the idea of options, and I really hope this happens!


check out the times on Game 3755728 (world 2.1):
game log wrote:2008-11-30 14:08:00 - Game has been initialized
...
2008-11-30 14:12:52 - Scott-Land deployed 8 troops on Peru
2008-11-30 14:12:53 - Jeff Hardy deployed 12 troops on Yugra
2008-11-30 14:12:53 - Scott-Land deployed 4 troops on China
2008-11-30 14:13:00 - Scott-Land ran out of time
2008-11-30 14:13:00 - Jeff Hardy ran out of time
2008-11-30 14:13:00 - Incrementing game to round 2
...
2008-11-30 14:17:52 - Scott-Land deployed 11 troops on Finland
2008-11-30 14:17:56 - Jeff Hardy deployed 17 troops on Iceland
2008-11-30 14:18:00 - Scott-Land ran out of time
2008-11-30 14:18:00 - Jeff Hardy ran out of time
2008-11-30 14:18:00 - Incrementing game to round 3
...
2008-11-30 14:22:46 - Jeff Hardy deployed 12 troops on Ukraine
2008-11-30 14:22:50 - Scott-Land deployed 13 troops on Thailand
2008-11-30 14:23:00 - Scott-Land ran out of time
2008-11-30 14:23:00 - Jeff Hardy ran out of time
2008-11-30 14:23:00 - Incrementing game to round 4
...
2008-11-30 14:32:48 - Scott-Land deployed 17 troops on Irkutsk
2008-11-30 14:32:56 - Jeff Hardy deployed 15 troops on Alaska
2008-11-30 14:33:00 - Scott-Land ran out of time
2008-11-30 14:33:00 - Jeff Hardy ran out of time
2008-11-30 14:33:00 - Incrementing game to round 6


1 minute is good, maybe even 30 second rounds for those that want to go really fast
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Re: (poll)SPEED GAMES TIME OPTIONS

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Naah 5 minutes is fine. We dont need all those options... who would choose four minutes?

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Re: (poll)SPEED GAMES TIME OPTIONS

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Rocketry wrote:Naah 5 minutes is fine. We dont need all those options... who would choose four minutes?

Rocket.


Who would chose four? I don't know, maybe 78% of the people who read this thread and voted on the poll?
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Re: (poll)SPEED GAMES TIME OPTIONS

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Who would chose four? I don't know, maybe 78% of the people who read this thread and voted on the poll?

Its a sugestion,who can be create in maybe 3 option-1 minute-3 minute-5 minute.
No need to be all 5. ;)
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Re: (poll)SPEED GAMES TIME OPTIONS

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Why not have all, though? There could be restrictions on new people joining games under 5m just as there are restrictions on the games they can play.
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1 min speed games

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well in some games u pretty much start ur turn and do nothing until the last like 10 secs of the game well what if they had an optioin of one min speed games so u wouldnt do nothing for 4 min u would just sit around for like 30 sec
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Re: 1 min speed games

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Sohail88 wrote:well in some games u pretty much start ur turn and do nothing until the last like 10 secs of the game well what if they had an optioin of one min speed games so u wouldnt do nothing for 4 min u would just sit around for like 30 sec


This has already been suggested like infinity times.
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Re: 1 min speed games

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Only on certain maps in my opinion. On maps like BJ one minute is often not enough to even access the map, decide what to do, and deploy your troops, even with clickies.

But then again, this would be a good challenge for some speed farmers who think they are up to it.
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Re: 1 min speed games

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yea yea - suggested before but a bad idea...

I like the idea, it would be good in some circumstances, but on large maps (or even smaller maps when one player is dominating and will clearly win) 1 minute would just not be enough. People wouldn't have time to move properly. It would slow the game down, not speed it up.

Also, people with faster computers would have an advantage, just because things load faster for them. Bad idea.

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Re: (poll)SPEED GAMES TIME OPTIONS

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by iambligh » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:49 am

Why not have all, though? There could be restrictions on new people joining games under 5m just as there are restrictions on the games they can play.

These is only a initial idea,we can create with all 5 options,or with 3 options.
After that people can take what think is best option for play. People who have skils to play fast can take 1 minute, and people who have moderate skill can take 3 or more minute to play. ;)
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Re: 1 min speed games

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Will you guys please merge with this thread?

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=73284

One big thread is more likely to get attention than numerous little ones.

I think alot of slower players are afraid they'll be left out of the action if this goes through. I don't think this will be the case; having a greater variety of game types can only improve the site, and slower payers will always be able to find partners.

If farming is the issue they're concerned with, why bother? This site is supposed to be fun, and the concept that people are doing suspicious things to improve "their ranks" certainly doesn't keep me up at night. Anyways, it's not OUR job to make sure that doesn't happen.
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Re: 1 min speed games

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look im suggesting we have 1 min speed games as an option not getting rid of 5 min speed gmaes do optoins really hurt that much
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Re: 1 min speed games

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1 min speed games would be great.
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Re: 1 min speed games

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If you'd looked at the thread, you'd see that it's an older, more active thread which recommends being able to choose the time of your speed game, from between 1-5 minutes per turn.

Let's put all of our eggs in one basket and keep it active, rather than everyone who gets the idea starting his own thread, as I did, and now as you have.
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Re: 1 min speed games

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like speed chess sort of.

and if a map is too big to finish in one minute then it would be a whole new strategy. I assume Extra time would still be given in an elimination anyhow so sweeps would still be alive in multi-player. I hope this keeps getting brought up, it may make me go for premium again. Along with a chat in the speed game room waiting area. :mrgreen:
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Re: 1 min speed games

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I have recently started playing speed games, and this suggestion is VERY NEEDED. It seems like 2/3rds of the players I've faced since I've started speed games just drop out completely once the game starts to go against them. I had an opponent make some nasty comments and quit AFTER HIS ROUND TWO MOVES ON AFRICA.

This change would at least mean I wouldn't have to sit there for fifteen freaking minutes waiting for the bastard to be eliminated.
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Re: 1 min speed games

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iambligh » Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:05 pm

Will you guys please merge with this thread?

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=73284

One big thread is more likely to get attention than numerous little ones.

I think alot of slower players are afraid they'll be left out of the action if this goes through. I don't think this will be the case; having a greater variety of game types can only improve the site, and slower payers will always be able to find partners.

If farming is the issue they're concerned with, why bother? This site is supposed to be fun, and the concept that people are doing suspicious things to improve "their ranks" certainly doesn't keep me up at night. Anyways, it's not OUR job to make sure that doesn't happen

Like iambligt very good notice,im sugested that you have 5 speed time options,not to get rid of 5 minute options, im in many speed games(where you play with more then 2 player),been in possition to waith (expecialy in freestyle games) that almost all players waiting last 10-15 seconds, and that games instead to be speed,become very slow. When you play in standard games and when you play with 5-6-7-8 players,you need to waith to much long,and one turn can be played for less then one minute,ofcourse old features will stay same-get extra time for eliminate opponents. I think that these new speed will bring more chalenge, and that will for many people speed game realy become speed game.
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Re: 1 min speed games

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I would like the idea if the whole game was one minute...
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Re: 1 min speed games

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This would be way too hard and far too crazy
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Re: 1 min speed games

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sailorseal wrote:This would be way too hard and far too crazy


What exactly are you talking about? It would be way too hard and far too crazy to implement options for different turn-timelengths in games? I'd have to disagree with that very much.
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option for less time on speed games

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It seems that many times, speed games, while they are only 5 min. per turn, are too long. With most freestyle games, it's 4:30 min of sitting around and 30 sec. of playing...if that. Why not add an option that allows for "super speed", with each turn lasting only 1 min?

Specifics: Add another option for premium players for a 1 min/turn speed game.

This will improve the following aspects of the site: It will allow more speed games to be played in a session on CC and eliminate the tedious waiting around for the last 13-30 sec of the turn to move. I feel this will have an overwhelming support, and make speed games that much more enjoyable...esp. freestyle assassin games.
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