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To go with Thota on any/all around players is not accurate.I stand to say Suel,Rabbit,and Rl are amongst the best overall players you can possibly run across.If Ben was still around I would venture to say he is easily one one the best players in CC history.
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Don't listen to Blitz.... all the sex has addled his mind!
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Well Prank,that is your opinion my friend.The bottom line is there are many.I would like to know if I was to set up a tournament just using team games (seq.) who would all be interested?I will use all setting esc/flat rate-unlimited-etc.I can make it a 3 or 4 part tournament or maybe we all can come up with some ideas and make it happen.There are many players that have posted here so it shouldn't be hard to come up with enough players.So,what do you all think?
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agreed about ben

Blitz: you can write whatever you want, but please don´t quote me wrong. Just add what you want to say below the quotes, not in the quotes.
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No comments on the tourney Seul?
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Seulessliathan wrote:agreed about ben

Blitz: you can write whatever you want, but please don´t quote me wrong. Just add what you want to say below the quotes, not in the quotes.



I just wanted to see where i stand against what some here posted, thats all
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Blitzaholic wrote:
Seulessliathan wrote:the mentioned players, points from seq games (17.01.2008):

B;itzaholic +9203 just sequential team games only
Blitzaholic +3317
General Mojo +2911
dividedbyzero +2725
Fruitcake +2709
joecoolfrog +2081
JBoy +2069
Velvecarrots +955
poo-maker +759
LT.pie +232



Total overall: Blitz Sequential Games

+3317 pts, 4651/6168 games (75%), 7513 unique defeats.
It's seq. stats only, all finished game types (singles/term/dubs/ass/teams/tourneys/1 vs 1/trips/quads/clan challenges/speed/etc. all sequential)

sequential team games only, dubs, trips, quads: Blitzaholic's Score
+9203 pts, 4208/5253 (80%), 7078 unique defeats


Standard, terminator and assassin: Blitzaholic's Score
-6108 pts, 443/919(48%), 638 unique defeats

You're such a cook on singles blitz! :lol:
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Prismsaber plays mostly seq. I believe and he's (was recently) up in the ranks of generals.
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Phlaim wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
Seulessliathan wrote:the mentioned players, points from seq games (17.01.2008):

B;itzaholic +9203 just sequential team games only
Blitzaholic +3317
General Mojo +2911
dividedbyzero +2725
Fruitcake +2709
joecoolfrog +2081
JBoy +2069
Velvecarrots +955
poo-maker +759
LT.pie +232



Total overall: Blitz Sequential Games

+3317 pts, 4651/6168 games (75%), 7513 unique defeats.
It's seq. stats only, all finished game types (singles/term/dubs/ass/teams/tourneys/1 vs 1/trips/quads/clan challenges/speed/etc. all sequential)

sequential team games only, dubs, trips, quads: Blitzaholic's Score
+9203 pts, 4208/5253 (80%), 7078 unique defeats


Standard, terminator and assassin: Blitzaholic's Score
-6108 pts, 443/919(48%), 638 unique defeats

You're such a cook on singles blitz! :lol:


Indeed, and this is why the whole question will remain subjective unless the parameters are fully laid out.

Returning to the original post:

Pedronicus wrote:Seeing as the upper scoreboard is made up of players playing primarily freestyle games, there must be a player who plays primarily sequential. who is this king amongst kings?


Pedronicus has not clearly defined. There are quite a few ways of approaching the answer, as has been proven by this debate. I read it to ask who of the top score holders actually showed the most gained points on all sequential games. However, within this 'set' are subsets, those with the best scores for team sequential, those for the best singles etc. Blitz's massive disparity shows how we all tend to lean towards our chosen strength, this is a natural evolution. The variety of styles (singles, dubs, trips., quads, speed, terminator, assassin etc) means it is a long task to sort out who is what.

What this thread has shown is that many of the top players tend to circulate around the same level. The points are the purest way to choose; to ask for opinion naturally leads to subjective responses...which of course brings me full circle to my first sentence.

The facts are that many are very good at their chosen field. Sequential is more of a purist’s sport, freestyle now having lost most of its shine through, what could be euphemistically put as, performance enhancing systems.

I have avoided freestyle for this reason, and will continue to do so. I am happy to play hard players as it is on that whetstone one's tactical nous sharpens. I am sure many would agree with me that playing too many poor players dulls that particular blade as one can get sloppy, make errors and still come away with a win.

In summary, long live sequential, the REAL way to play this game.
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Fruitcake wrote:The facts are that many are very good at their chosen field. Sequential is more of a purist’s sport, freestyle now having lost most of its shine through, what could be euphemistically put as, performance enhancing systems.

I have avoided freestyle for this reason, and will continue to do so. I am happy to play hard players as it is on that whetstone one's tactical nous sharpens. I am sure many would agree with me that playing too many poor players dulls that particular blade as one can get sloppy, make errors and still come away with a win.

In summary, long live sequential, the REAL way to play this game.


shits weak. performance enhancing systems? what are you referring to illegal substances? like steroids... last time i checked clickable maps are available to all players and are legal.

you ever heard of bob? it has a feature called, 'map inspect'. which could be used to enhance your performance in sequential games. not to mention all the other features bob provides that gives you useful statistical information.

a common misconception is that all you need is speed to be successful at freestyle games. i agree that certain freestyle games rely on speed to win. however, theres plenty of fast freestyle players that dont have a high score.

sequential is more a purist's sport? perhaps you'd like to add 'in my opinion' in that statement.

although this may seem like a personal attack, nothing against you fruitcake. dont think ive ever played you.

whos the best seq player? who knows... whos the best freestyle player? who knows. if you want to know. you have to create standardized criteria to rate players. good luck having everyone agree to that criteria... perhaps having a separate rating system for the best seq standard/terminator/assassin/doubles/trips/quad player
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I think what FC is getting at is many people's scores have ballooned up since CM came around. No I can't be CM can it? ;)
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thezepman wrote:
sequential is more a purist's sport? perhaps you'd like to add 'in my opinion' in that statement.


Nope.
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How can you measure Seq games on the map rank tool ? I dont see an option for filtering them out from freestyle games.
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KoE_Sirius wrote:How can you measure Seq games on the map rank tool ? I dont see an option for filtering them out from freestyle games.


Go to game finder, insert players name, tick the sequential box and then click map rank.
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Fruitcake wrote:
KoE_Sirius wrote:How can you measure Seq games on the map rank tool ? I dont see an option for filtering them out from freestyle games.


Go to game finder, insert players name, tick the sequential box and then click map rank.

but someone who has never played freestyle would have a disadvantage over someone who has lost 1000 points on it so its not a great way to compare players

a great map rank in one thing normally means a bad one in something else
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Jeff Hardy wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:
KoE_Sirius wrote:How can you measure Seq games on the map rank tool ? I dont see an option for filtering them out from freestyle games.


Go to game finder, insert players name, tick the sequential box and then click map rank.

but someone who has never played freestyle would have a disadvantage over someone who has lost 1000 points on it so its not a great way to compare players

a great map rank in one thing normally means a bad one in something else


Indeed, as Blitz's figures showed. The original question was about sequential play, so the debate should centre on that. I do not doubt there could be a debate about freestyle players.
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Does anyone really think that everyone will agree on one player..????

put every mentioned player in 1 room and give them all a gun anyone manages to walk out is the master strategist.
of course it is sequental so starting will play a big factor in winning.. gl to all :D
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I agree with Tyche.
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Anyone who can make the first page, playing sequential only, is a great player. The same can not necessarily be said of freestyle.
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why do all the players that are bad in freestyle themselves think there is no skill involved in it?
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Jeff Hardy wrote:why do all the players that are bad in freestyle themselves think there is no skill involved in it?

No one said that. What I was implying is that it is possible for someone to make the top 250 playing freestyle, simply because they are fast (see *manimal), not that everyone who plays freestyle is no good.

btw, there is a difference between being bad at something, and simply not doing it.
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Timminz wrote:
Jeff Hardy wrote:why do all the players that are bad in freestyle themselves think there is no skill involved in it?

No one said that. What I was implying is that it is possible for someone to make the top 250 playing freestyle, simply because they are fast (see *manimal), not that everyone who plays freestyle is no good.

point taken.
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Timminz wrote:Anyone who can make the first page, playing sequential only, is a great player. The same can not necessarily be said of freestyle.


Standard games yes but not true of all team players.
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joecoolfrog wrote:
Timminz wrote:Anyone who can make the first page, playing sequential only, is a great player. The same can not necessarily be said of freestyle.


Standard games yes but not true of all team players.

I don't know. You'd have to be pretty good at doubles to maintain 2500 points. Not so much for trips/quads.
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Timminz wrote:
Jeff Hardy wrote:why do all the players that are bad in freestyle themselves think there is no skill involved in it?

No one said that. What I was implying is that it is possible for someone to make the top 250 playing freestyle, simply because they are fast (see *manimal), not that everyone who plays freestyle is no good.

btw, there is a difference between being bad at something, and simply not doing it.


you can do the same easily with seq... just join a bunch of highranked players teamgames (quads recommended) and let them do all the work. go ask superstec, he's ruined enough of my games like that to make my foelist, and he was getting close to the first page.
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