[GO] [Rules] Rank Restricted Games

The Neon Peon · Post by **The Neon Peon** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:07 am

I would like this suggestion and use it frequently to play only against high ranks, but there is a problem.

Although it does NOT lead to rank segregation seeing as the top of the scoreboard is so minute and there would be way more games for law ranked players, it leads to not being able to bridge the gap from one rank games to another.

The most common mistakes low ranks make is not playing against high ranks. They have no input of strategy in their game if a cook does not want to play with anyone above cadet so that they have a high chance at winning. So if you completely shut out even the choice for them to play high ranks (seeing as most of high ranks would use this) then the low ranks will have a much harder time actually learning how to play.

Jeff Hardy · Post by **Jeff Hardy** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:25 am

killmanic wrote:Just make private games and invite the people you want to join. In addition in the callouts forum there are threads for games for people with 1800+, 2000+, 2500+ and perhaps a few others also, if you want games with people your rank this is one way to get them.

what if people like playing quick 1vs1s?

i have everyone who was a cook a week ago (almost 2000 players) on ignore list because i dont like them joining my games, this would prevent people having to do stuff like that

The Neon Peon · Post by **The Neon Peon** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:40 am

Jeff Hardy wrote:
killmanic wrote:Just make private games and invite the people you want to join. In addition in the callouts forum there are threads for games for people with 1800+, 2000+, 2500+ and perhaps a few others also, if you want games with people your rank this is one way to get them.

what if people like playing quick 1vs1s?

i have everyone who was a cook a week ago (almost 2000 players) on ignore list because i dont like them joining my games, this would prevent people having to do stuff like that

Just wondering, how many PMs do you get in your inbox from doing that?

It is the reason I undid mine.

para · Post by **para** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:30 pm

Artimis wrote:Nice in theory, crap in practice. It'll just make it oh so much easier for the hardcore farmers if they could mass foe everyone above Private. At least with the current arrangement they can only foe by typing in names in the manage foes page or by clicking the Add Foe link on a profile. It's labour intensive for them to foe the first 40 or so pages of the scoreboard at current, lets not make it any easier for them, ok?

in that case have the different options be "private and down" or "sgt and down" for what they foe. as this would be the only practical, agreeable way to do it the first place.

soka · Post by **soka** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:50 pm

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the.killing.44 · Post by **the.killing.44** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:54 pm

The plug-in Map Rank has this option.

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White Moose · Post by **White Moose** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:50 am

the.killing.44 wrote:The plug-in Map Rank has this option.

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Nope.

Fuzzylogic99 · Post by **Fuzzylogic99** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:39 am

been suggested b4 and been rejected

The Neon Peon · Post by **The Neon Peon** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:01 am

Foe all those of the rank you do not wish to play.

Jeff Hardy · Post by **Jeff Hardy** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:06 am

i remember suggesting this not too long ago...

kiddicus maximus · Post by **kiddicus maximus** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:45 pm

I was wondering the same thing. Not that my rank is impressive, but I'd rather play against people who are similar in rank until I get the hang of some of the tougher maps.

Maybe just on the 'over' on the rank? For instance, limit 1100 would exclude anyone with the rank over 1100.

HardAttack · Post by **HardAttack** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:47 pm

The Neon Peon wrote:Foe all those of the rank you do not wish to play.

foe 5000 players ?

HardAttack · Post by **HardAttack** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:49 pm

i suggested this in Q&A when i was freemium maybe 2 times. But didnt work. I think there is a policy behind it.

kiddicus maximus · Post by **kiddicus maximus** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:22 am

HardAttack wrote:i suggested this in Q&A when i was freemium maybe 2 times. But didnt work. I think there is a policy behind it.

rules are made to be broken. I think it would be a good option. Some of the higher ranked players get angry when they lose to bums like me. Some of the bums go from Private to Cook because they don't realize not to play 4 majors in an assassin game...

Phlaim · Post by **Phlaim** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:52 am

To go around this, make the games private and put them in callouts.

kiddicus maximus · Post by **kiddicus maximus** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:27 am

Phlaim wrote:To go around this, make the games private and put them in callouts.

I guess that would work, but how many bums actually read the callouts? I never do, probably because no one is calling out the 1000 and under group. Hey, I'm gonna start a clan.

Fruitcake · Post by **Fruitcake** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:09 am

HardAttack wrote:
The Neon Peon wrote:Foe all those of the rank you do not wish to play.

foe 5000 players ?

if KLOBBER can do it, then you can do it.

cpurcell · Post by **cpurcell** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:31 am

I suggested this as well and they turned it down

... And no, map rank doesn't do that...
---C

Artimis · Post by **Artimis** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:57 am

Makes it easier to conduct elitist game play, i.e. Not play people below a certain rank to avoid heavy points loss. Great in theory but will encourage more exclusive game playing in practice, we already have a points aristocracy, lets not make it worse.

sailorseal · Post by **sailorseal** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:38 pm

kiddicus maximus wrote:
Phlaim wrote:To go around this, make the games private and put them in callouts.

I guess that would work, but how many bums actually read the callouts? I never do, probably because no one is calling out the 1000 and under group. Hey, I'm gonna start a clan.

A clan for what? Low ranks, i already started one...

Joodoo · Post by **Joodoo** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:39 am

Fruitcake wrote:
HardAttack wrote:
The Neon Peon wrote:Foe all those of the rank you do not wish to play.

foe 5000 players ?

if KLOBBER can do it, then you can do it.

true, with the unlimited amount of space in your foe list, a cap on ranks doesn't seem to be necessary

The Neon Peon · Post by **The Neon Peon** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:32 pm

Joodoo wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:
HardAttack wrote:
The Neon Peon wrote:Foe all those of the rank you do not wish to play.

foe 5000 players ?

if KLOBBER can do it, then you can do it.

true, with the unlimited amount of space in your foe list, a cap on ranks doesn't seem to be necessary

There is a max when you reach about 10,000 when foeing another person becomes such a haste that you remove all your foes in frustration.

kiddicus maximus · Post by **kiddicus maximus** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:35 am

Artimis wrote:Makes it easier to conduct elitist game play, i.e. Not play people below a certain rank to avoid heavy points loss. Great in theory but will encourage more exclusive game playing in practice, we already have a points aristocracy, lets not make it worse.

I'm kinda new, so are the top 100 or so really that hell-bent on keeping their status? Isn't this all supposed to be for fun?

anomalystream · Post by **anomalystream** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:36 am

I want to suggest that when starting games, members should be able to set minimum and maximum limits for rank that other members must meet to join.

EXAMPLE:

Set Rank Limit:
Minimum Rank: Corporal 1st Class
Maximum Rank: Captain

Therefore to join this game you must at least be a Corporal 1st Class, and at most be a Captain.

In addition, I feel Premium Members should be able to exclude non-premium members from joining games they create, and non-premium members should not be able to rank Premium Members.

It is very potentially extremely destructive to a members ranking if when they start games, any member of any rank can join any number of games a member has created. So members should be able to limit rank, exclude non-premium members, and prevent a single member from joining multiple games a member has created.

bigreuben · Post by **bigreuben** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:08 am

anomalystream wrote:I want to suggest that when starting games, members should be able to set minimum and maximum limits for rank that other members must meet to join.

EXAMPLE:

Set Rank Limit:
Minimum Rank: Corporal 1st Class
Maximum Rank: Captain

Therefore to join this game you must at least be a Corporal 1st Class, and at most be a Captain.

I agree with that... I usually join a game when there is just one or two more spaces left so it will start fast, but that because surfing through all the games and looking for something that will be with players of my caliber, or just going through private games and and asking everyone if it's friend private or ranks private game can take a day or two at best... last time I started a game there was not one player that was equal to my rank, and my rank ain't that high...

anomalystream wrote:In addition, I feel Premium Members should be able to exclude non-premium members from joining games they create, and non-premium members should not be able to rank Premium Members.

It is very potentially extremely destructive to a members ranking if when they start games, any member of any rank can join any number of games a member has created. So members should be able to limit rank, exclude non-premium members, and prevent a single member from joining multiple games a member has created.

I think you missed the "private password" option when you start the game...
And overall I don't think that you paying premium means you're a better player, which means maybe you are the one who actually put my (any freemium) rank at risk...

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