derfderf34 wrote:of course this is like typical mafia games where day 1 will come down to a hammer that no one wanys to do because whoever does will be accused of being scum if the person doesn't come up scum
Actually, I only see one objection to bringing the hammer down.
If you guys lynch me, your wasting a role that will make it too the end. So, you guys will lose sooner.
Yes, but if you're mafia/SK, we don't want you to make it to the end.
True, that is. But, I'll let you decide on that. I know that using my role as evidence iswrong in this game, now. But seriously, that was a stupid bandwagon.
I think there is quite a strong case on derf but Im not gonna vote just yet
could someone please explain to me what i've done to look scummy?
Sierra_Leon wrote:No, I first became suspicious of him when he attacked mpjh.
derfderf34 wrote:
Sierra_Leon wrote:@derfderf: where is mpjh acting scummy?
he is pushing for a no lynch
and he is trying to defend himself by saying that we shouldn't lynch him because he has a power role
This looks like he's trying to get an easy lynch in on the new guy.
Then he jumped to the top of my scum-list with his vote on animorph.
derfderf34 wrote:hey i guess we can all bandwagon ani and have half of us accused as scum for bandwagoning unvote vote ani it has already been decided that lynching will have nothing to do with your role
He literally voted saying it was a bandwagon vote, giving no good reason for voting at all, and encouraged others to follow his example. Hello?
After reading ani's stuff again, I think he is just young and doesn't know how to make an argument for himself. I initially became suspicious of him because he made no sense, but now realize he just may not know how to make sense. Derfderf, on the other hand has made cogent arguments, but scummy ones.
Vote derfderf. After the ani bandwagonning incident, he looked scummy, and now his only excuse is that it happens every game. The goal is to lynch someone who looks scummy, not bandwagon someone at the first chance you get.
Are we sure we want to get rid of derf before he can use his kill? I mean on the one hand, if he were to help us, we would have one extra shot at hitting mafia, fairly valuable in a small game with two kills per night. Though on the other hand, if he is mafia, and believes us to know he's mafia, he'll definitely use it on town no matter what we say, losing us an extra townie.
/ wrote:Are we sure we want to get rid of derf before he can use his kill? I mean on the one hand, if he were to help us, we would have one extra shot at hitting mafia, fairly valuable in a small game with two kills per night. Though on the other hand, if he is mafia, and believes us to know he's mafia, he'll definitely use it on town no matter what we say, losing us an extra townie.
Remember though, the scum doesn't know the SK; one more kill means theres one more chance to kill the SK. And same for if derf is SK; theres more chance of a scum dying. Its in our best interests to keep derf alive until he uses his kill.
/ wrote:Are we sure we want to get rid of derf before he can use his kill? I mean on the one hand, if he were to help us, we would have one extra shot at hitting mafia, fairly valuable in a small game with two kills per night. Though on the other hand, if he is mafia, and believes us to know he's mafia, he'll definitely use it on town no matter what we say, losing us an extra townie.
Remember though, the scum doesn't know the SK; one more kill means theres one more chance to kill the SK. And same for if derf is SK; theres more chance of a scum dying. Its in our best interests to keep derf alive until he uses his kill.
There we are. You are both using his role as an excuse to keep him alive. So why can't I use animo's role as a motive for his lynch?
I'll repeat what I said. The mafia and SK obviously are not going to target animo... Wait wait wait...if I roleblock animo...can he be killed?
derfderf's account sitter says is away unitl mid-late Sunday so don't do anything drastic. Also, @ MM
Pikachu wrote:You are Pikachu, bulletproof. You are just so cute and cuddly, that no one could even think of killing you. Any and all kill attempts against you will fail, other actions though will succede. Your Bulletproof ability can not be roleblocked away.
(\__/) (= . =) (")_(") bringing back that bunny pride why did they get rid of gridiron gang bluegray eh' woman
So nope, he is completely NK-proof. Meaning that his only benefits are his votes, and that he will last until end-game except if lynched. And then lose. The other roles in the game have the potential to actually win the town the game.
So nope, he is completely NK-proof. Meaning that his only benefits are his votes, and that he will last until end-game except if lynched. And then lose. The other roles in the game have the potential to actually win the town the game.
I chose Pikachu so I wouldn't have to deal with PMs. the bulletproof part is just a bonus.
If you lynch me, it will end up as town, and you will get lynched the next day.
So nope, he is completely NK-proof. Meaning that his only benefits are his votes, and that he will last until end-game except if lynched. And then lose. The other roles in the game have the potential to actually win the town the game.
I chose Pikachu so I wouldn't have to deal with PMs. the bulletproof part is just a bonus. If you lynch me, it will end up as town, and you will get lynched the next day.
It's nothing against you animo, or the way you've played the game so far. If this was a normal game, I would judge people like that. But this is a different type of game, and therefore, and different method of judging must be used.
The more said, the more ani looks just inexperienced at making an argument and derfderf looks scum. If derfderf is scum lynching him is a bonus because his ability to use the vig kick is gone also, and cannot be used against a townie. I keep my vote on derfderf.
mpjh wrote:The more said, the more ani looks just inexperienced at making an argument and derfderf looks scum. If derfderf is scum lynching him is a bonus because his ability to use the vig kick is gone also, and cannot be used against a townie. I keep my vote on derfderf.
...Why are you thinking negative? Assuming derf is town, his ability is quite helpful; he should be left alive for now, at least.
mpjh wrote:The more said, the more ani looks just inexperienced at making an argument and derfderf looks scum. If derfderf is scum lynching him is a bonus because his ability to use the vig kick is gone also, and cannot be used against a townie. I keep my vote on derfderf.
...Why are you thinking negative? Assuming derf is town, his ability is quite helpful; he should be left alive for now, at least.
This is a bit WIFOMy. It really isn't a fantastic point against derfderf being lynched; if derfderf if mafia, and we don't lynch him, he gets a free kill, and gets one step closer to winning. Same story if he is SK.
On derfderf: his case does hold weight. His bandwagoning with no reason and his asking us to follow his lead is disturbing. Vote: derfderf. He's now at L-1. NO-ONE lynch until he gets a chance at defending himself.
...Even if he uses his kill, and is scum, theres more of a chance of getting rid of the SK.
