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registered_user wrote:I think it'd be just as easy to change the points equation from:
(loser's score / winner's score) * 20, up to a maximum of 100 points from each opponent
to
((loser's score / winner's score) * 20) - 5
Anyone over 2500 points who takes on a newbie would actually lose points.
cheers.
GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:Jeff Hardy wrote:registered_user wrote:I think it'd be just as easy to change the points equation from:
(loser's score / winner's score) * 20, up to a maximum of 100 points from each opponent
to
((loser's score / winner's score) * 20) - 5
Anyone over 2500 points who takes on a newbie would actually lose points.
cheers.
fucking ridiculous
stupidest idea ive ever heard
Poor Jeff Hardy, he wants those precious points to preserve his "STAR"!
This kid wants to go after newbies, since he won't try to RISK! his ranking with a mature player.
Let's help out poor Jeffrey and let's help out other chicken-shit over-ranked pussies.
Here's what I propose, let's have games where all newbies must bend over or fall down on their knees and get their lil' cherries popped by high-ranked players. Now wouldn't that be a way to preserve these wimps from losing their ranks?
SAVE THE WHALES, SAVE OUR HIGH RANK PLAYERS!!!
...also, save a tree....eat a beaver
pinkflaminko wrote:Vote, u have two choices.
choice number 1: improve the site
choice number 2: disclude people from the site and give the site a bad reputation
its up to you! my vote: improve the site
skip wrote:Why would anyone spend their free time taking part in a game that their opponents don't know how to play correctly? I don't get it. Apparently it's a problem, though, so people who get their rocks off that way must be out there...
Yes the majority of the top players are Newbie rapers.skip wrote:Why would anyone spend their free time taking part in a game that their opponents don't know how to play correctly? I don't get it. Apparently it's a problem, though, so people who get their rocks off that way must be out there...
Mr Changsha wrote:King_Herpes wrote:neanderpaul14 wrote:King_Herpes wrote:It's about damn time. I mean, how long were you going to let that madness continue? It's an outrage I tell ya! Darn farmers, all they care about is points points points...
Awright Herps any ideas what we should do to the farmers??
Well, actually since you asked. I find it kind of imperialistic to just come through and snatch our pride right out of our hands. We were one with the spiritual Conquer Club and we mothered every ? that came into our lives. Just because we appeared to be primitive and not as domesticated doesn't mean we aren't kind, gentle, and giving souls. I personally believe that we are entitled to some form of reservation and casino offerings. I did subtly warn Twill that if we continue to be suppressed and erased from CC history than there will be an uprising where we attack your trains and burn your carriages. However, I've grown a bit depressed and am slowly forgetting what it means to be a farmer *Sigh*. I'm currently drinking my 4th bottle of hairspray while loathing my fallen fellow warriors and spirit ancestors.
-Chief Herp, last of the herpaewa farmers
I think what we need here is a 'farming treatment program'. Responsible members can set up some multis and distribute them liberally around the site on fave farming maps. King_H and his ilk can have fun finding them and enjoy that special satisfaction of beating a deadbeat. It is not as easy as it looks you know! Every month we'll create less multis and gradually wean our favourite farming friends off of their nasty little addiction. It is the only humane thing to do!
GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:Poor lil' Jeffrey Hardy is upset with me. Yep, he sent a p.m. to me to tell me how unfair I am with him....boo-hoo, somebody give me a hankie.
I tell you what Jeffrey, since you think I'm so brutal to you. Why don't we have people here who have posted on this thread to pick several games and with several options and then we'll decide whether a low rank individual like myself and high rank person like yourself is, umm, errr...more qualified as a player here at C.C.
Please, don't back down or come up with some lame excuse, play me with games on those who posted would choose and we'll see, if high rank means anything against a low rank piece of shit like myself.
Are you gamed or cluck, cluck....chicken. Let the games begin!
General Stoneham
Greeboski wrote:i joined a few days ago. and have started 6 games in total. 2 of the games have been joint LAST by a mid-ranked player as the only non-noob. i also have joined 2 games started by ranked players. the other 2 games are 100% noob.
from what i have read here 2/3rd's of my games started to date could be farming games.
i do have a grasp of the rules of that board game that is almost similar, but do not know any of the other maps here.
also the interface takes a little getting used to.
i would propose that noob's be "quarenteened" to start with.
untill they have FINISHED playing four noob only games and last 6 turns in each.
ALSO each map should require ONE game against other "first few go's on this map" players. (a win would exclude a player from further unscored games on that map)
this should get them used to the interface in all aspects and not leave people clewless as to the maps.
all of these games should be unscored. and the player would have the rank "trainee" or "???" if you like.
to me this is the only way to STOP the practice, and is more like reality - all soldiers go through basic training even the generals did at some point.
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jarrett155 wrote:GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:Poor lil' Jeffrey Hardy is upset with me. Yep, he sent a p.m. to me to tell me how unfair I am with him....boo-hoo, somebody give me a hankie.
I tell you what Jeffrey, since you think I'm so brutal to you. Why don't we have people here who have posted on this thread to pick several games and with several options and then we'll decide whether a low rank individual like myself and high rank person like yourself is, umm, errr...more qualified as a player here at C.C.
Please, don't back down or come up with some lame excuse, play me with games on those who posted would choose and we'll see, if high rank means anything against a low rank piece of shit like myself.
Are you gamed or cluck, cluck....chicken. Let the games begin!
General Stoneham
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GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:Ok Jeffrey, just to make sure it ain't luck, but skill, I propose 20 games.
I'll pick 10 maps and options and you'll pick the same amount and options.
I'll p.m. you my 10 games with password and I'll expect the same from you.
We can then tell everyone here on Farming, how over-ranked you are, tee-hee, OR if I'm just full of shit.
Jeff Hardy wrote:GENERAL STONEHAM wrote:Ok Jeffrey, just to make sure it ain't luck, but skill, I propose 20 games.
I'll pick 10 maps and options and you'll pick the same amount and options.
I'll p.m. you my 10 games with password and I'll expect the same from you.
We can then tell everyone here on Farming, how over-ranked you are, tee-hee, OR if I'm just full of shit.
dont chicken out man
you said that someone should say settings and thats what we'll play
someone has said settings, thats what were playing
and your theory of "i pick 10, you pick 10" is completely flawed and you know it
id win all 10 of my games and at least 6 of yours but id still lose points in total
get up to general (or at least colonel/brig) and then ill do 20 games with you where we pick 10 each
i think ill let my brother (a corporal) play them and just give him advice on how to win and watch you drop your rank to corporal yourself
he could even get his rank down to private, just for you
thegreekdog wrote:I am a relatively new player... love the game, etc. If I receive an email from someone asking me to play a game, I'll say yes, no matter who it is or where it is. I'm not really caring that they are better at this game than I am and that I have a 90% chance to lose. I can learn something from the game and I'm fairly sure I'll have fun.
With that being said, I didn't know what farmers were until a week ago, which happened to coincide with me getting a random message to join a game (I didn't join because it was 3 AM EST and I was a drunk). Anyway my point is that Newbie farmers are only "hurting" people who are not newbie farmers (i.e. the people posting here who think their low ranking comparatively to newbie farmers are because of newbie farming). I don't think newbie farmers are hurting newbies. I got drilled in my first few games, and I get destroyed anytime I change settings or maps to something unfamiliar to me. Yet, I'm still playing. In an effort to anger everyone, I will say that :
(1) People who try to win games against newbies just to increase their point total are hurting themselves because it cannot be fun to beat up on someone who has no clue what they're doing... that's like a 300 pound man beating up a 100 pound guy. Sure, the little guy is hurting, but the 300 pound guy should be ashamed of himself. But, to each their own.
(2) The supposed purpose of banning newbie farming is to get newbies to stay on the site. However, I think the people supporting the ban of newbie farming are not concerned with that so much as they are concerned about eliminating the newbie farmers from the game. The point is that the supports of the newbie farming ban are more concerned with their own advancement than whether or not newbies stay with the site. Newbies are going to stay on this site because playing is fun and distracting and because the maps are really well-done. They are not going to stay just because they win some games.
At any rate, that's the view from the bottom.
You are misrepresenting my views and motives. You know very well that I have championed the cause, for the integrity of the leaderboard, to make it fair to everyone. I admit and proclaim loudly that it is not fair to me or anyone else. Of course my motivation for going on this crusade, was because I felt it was not fair to me. And yes if it were not for the Newbie Farmers and multi-cheaters, I would be on page 1 right now. If your rank or your place on the leaderboard does not mean that much to you, that is fine with me. But, if it DOES mean something to others, you should let that be fine with YOU. Yours is NOT the only interest that counts. For the life of me I can not understand why anyone would waste so many hours on a gaming site that is not fair. What in the world is wrong with wanting to play a fair game, and eagerly trying to be the best ? After all, isn't that what a leaderboard is for ?Mr Changsha wrote:thegreekdog wrote:I am a relatively new player... love the game, etc. If I receive an email from someone asking me to play a game, I'll say yes, no matter who it is or where it is. I'm not really caring that they are better at this game than I am and that I have a 90% chance to lose. I can learn something from the game and I'm fairly sure I'll have fun.
With that being said, I didn't know what farmers were until a week ago, which happened to coincide with me getting a random message to join a game (I didn't join because it was 3 AM EST and I was a drunk). Anyway my point is that Newbie farmers are only "hurting" people who are not newbie farmers (i.e. the people posting here who think their low ranking comparatively to newbie farmers are because of newbie farming). I don't think newbie farmers are hurting newbies. I got drilled in my first few games, and I get destroyed anytime I change settings or maps to something unfamiliar to me. Yet, I'm still playing. In an effort to anger everyone, I will say that :
(1) People who try to win games against newbies just to increase their point total are hurting themselves because it cannot be fun to beat up on someone who has no clue what they're doing... that's like a 300 pound man beating up a 100 pound guy. Sure, the little guy is hurting, but the 300 pound guy should be ashamed of himself. But, to each their own.
(2) The supposed purpose of banning newbie farming is to get newbies to stay on the site. However, I think the people supporting the ban of newbie farming are not concerned with that so much as they are concerned about eliminating the newbie farmers from the game. The point is that the supports of the newbie farming ban are more concerned with their own advancement than whether or not newbies stay with the site. Newbies are going to stay on this site because playing is fun and distracting and because the maps are really well-done. They are not going to stay just because they win some games.
At any rate, that's the view from the bottom.
The second point is absolutely right. I've found few people in life who give a shit about the little guy, yet I have met many who pretend to when it fits in with an argument they are having. Considering most people in my generation are intolerably self-centred (I'm in my late twenties) and those in the next generation even worse, this idea of players here saying "think of the poor new player, think of his enjoyment!" has always been, in the main, utter tosh. "Think of MY ranking, think of MY points!" is a far more likely sentiment to come from Thatcher and Reagan's children. However, I would say that the number of people who have written about the 'poor player's enjoyment' while figuratively swigging back the champagne of a high rank can only have come from the Blair/Clinton/Bush era.
King_H cold attain ten thousand points in any way he so chooses and it wouldn't effect my sense of self-worth one little bit. I know I am a good player. I could be number 500, number 300 or number 1,000 and it wouldn't effect the fact that I know I'm a bastard to beat on a Risk board. I can imagine chaps like porkenbeans and farangdemon going through the leaderboard counting up those they consider farmers and saying to themselves "I would be in the top 250 (or whatever) if all these farmers weren't farming." That's pretty sad, but understandable. What's so infuriating is that they then pretend they write 'for the good of the site'. Highly unlikely. Like most people in our decadent Western societies, they write for their own good and their own interest always.
Change the rules by all means Lack, for it might well make the site better...and hence be in your self-interest to do so. I would hope you're not fooled by the bleating of a bunch of pampered little babies that are prime examples of the 'me, me, me!' generation, with a bit of champagne socialism thrown in just to be sadly fitting of the times we live in.
Mr Changsha wrote:thegreekdog wrote:I am a relatively new player... love the game, etc. If I receive an email from someone asking me to play a game, I'll say yes, no matter who it is or where it is. I'm not really caring that they are better at this game than I am and that I have a 90% chance to lose. I can learn something from the game and I'm fairly sure I'll have fun.
With that being said, I didn't know what farmers were until a week ago, which happened to coincide with me getting a random message to join a game (I didn't join because it was 3 AM EST and I was a drunk). Anyway my point is that Newbie farmers are only "hurting" people who are not newbie farmers (i.e. the people posting here who think their low ranking comparatively to newbie farmers are because of newbie farming). I don't think newbie farmers are hurting newbies. I got drilled in my first few games, and I get destroyed anytime I change settings or maps to something unfamiliar to me. Yet, I'm still playing. In an effort to anger everyone, I will say that :
(1) People who try to win games against newbies just to increase their point total are hurting themselves because it cannot be fun to beat up on someone who has no clue what they're doing... that's like a 300 pound man beating up a 100 pound guy. Sure, the little guy is hurting, but the 300 pound guy should be ashamed of himself. But, to each their own.
(2) The supposed purpose of banning newbie farming is to get newbies to stay on the site. However, I think the people supporting the ban of newbie farming are not concerned with that so much as they are concerned about eliminating the newbie farmers from the game. The point is that the supports of the newbie farming ban are more concerned with their own advancement than whether or not newbies stay with the site. Newbies are going to stay on this site because playing is fun and distracting and because the maps are really well-done. They are not going to stay just because they win some games.
At any rate, that's the view from the bottom.
The second point is absolutely right. I've found few people in life who give a shit about the little guy, yet I have met many who pretend to when it fits in with an argument they are having. Considering most people in my generation are intolerably self-centred (I'm in my late twenties) and those in the next generation even worse, this idea of players here saying "think of the poor new player, think of his enjoyment!" has always been, in the main, utter tosh. "Think of MY ranking, think of MY points!" is a far more likely sentiment to come from Thatcher and Reagan's children. However, I would say that the number of people who have written about the 'poor player's enjoyment' while figuratively swigging back the champagne of a high rank can only have come from the Blair/Clinton/Bush era.
King_H cold attain ten thousand points in any way he so chooses and it wouldn't effect my sense of self-worth one little bit. I know I am a good player. I could be number 500, number 300 or number 1,000 and it wouldn't effect the fact that I know I'm a bastard to beat on a Risk board. I can imagine chaps like porkenbeans and farangdemon going through the leaderboard counting up those they consider farmers and saying to themselves "I would be in the top 250 (or whatever) if all these farmers weren't farming." That's pretty sad, but understandable. What's so infuriating is that they then pretend they write 'for the good of the site'. Highly unlikely. Like most people in our decadent Western societies, they write for their own good and their own interest always.
Change the rules by all means Lack, for it might well make the site better...and hence be in your self-interest to do so. I would hope you're not fooled by the bleating of a bunch of pampered little babies that are prime examples of the 'me, me, me!' generation, with a bit of champagne socialism thrown in just to be sadly fitting of the times we live in.
