[Abandoned] - Official Feudal War Revamp

[gimil]

Thanks guys for all the comments. Im going to put this back on vacation for a little while again. Got other projects and limited time still. So ill just get on with the other ones im enjoying more just now

[oaktown]

how about making it so that Rebel 7 doesn't border two "6" territories... I just blew a game because I went the wrong way and boxed myself in.

of course, this begs the larger question of how players know what is what without BoB.

[gimil]

how about making it so that Rebel 7 doesn't border two "6" territories... I just blew a game because I went the wrong way and boxed myself in.

of course, this begs the larger question of how players know what is what without BoB.

Shoot. Ive got a change for that and I forgot about it

[bryguy]

how about making it so that Rebel 7 doesn't border two "6" territories... I just blew a game because I went the wrong way and boxed myself in.

of course, this begs the larger question of how players know what is what without BoB.

its called skill and strategy
and a large magnifying glass

[thrillomania]

a little pet peeve of mine others may share but in the feudal war map people who are placed at great kingdom or feudal plains have a bit of an advantage because Northern plains is so isolated. makes A BIG DIFFERENCE OVER TIME as they can control more land easily, gather more armies ect.

suggestion

A bridge from Lake Minstello 1 to Northern plains 7. maybe move ryu villiage to where northern plains 11 is to make it harder to get to from lake minstello. this gives everyone a pathway to northern plains and norther plains access to lake minstello. particularly usefull in assasin games but in general will help balance the power of people who control north while not drastically changing the game.

[cicero]

Moved from Suggestions & Bug Reports
to Map Foundry

To be merged with Feudal War Revamp

Cicero

[oaktown]

thanks cic... seems foundry work is taking over the fourms!

[Androidz]

now im being awfully picky. Maybe the Towns need to be a bit better?

[gimil]

Its also on vacation for now guys so leave it be

[Hotdoggie]

My issue with the map was that Realm of might castle cant bombard any territories apart from the 10s...that would be good to fix.

[Androidz]

Hmm still on vactation. Anway can you write: Lake Minstello on the lake since you have named the empire why shouldent you name the lake in writeing to?

And the empire where the Rhu is.

[t-o-m]

Hmm still on vactation. Anway can you write: Lake Minstello on the lake since you have named the empire why shouldent you name the lake in writeing to?

And the empire where the Rhu is.

rhu is a village not an empire, and that is called northern plains, where it is located.

[Androidz]

Hmm still on vactation. Anway can you write: Lake Minstello on the lake since you have named the empire why shouldent you name the lake in writeing to?

And the empire where the Rhu is.

rhu is a village not an empire, and that is called northern plains, where it is located.

'I know rhu is the village, i just didint remmember what the empire was called;)

[gdeangel]

I do not like this revamp at all.

One of the interesting game play elements on this map is the blocking position in the center. The new boundry river will change that gameplay, and not for the better I'm afraid.

There is no good reason to be replacing the walls on Imperial Realm with a river, putting in backdrop "bushes" overlaid on the territories, or to make the 7 territory in the NE section so small.

There is really only one problem with this map the way it currently exists on the site... and that is the fact that you have to look at the little legend to figure out which realm you want to deploy in, and IN MANY CASES, a territory is bordering two other territories that have the same number. This could be fixed by just renumbering the territories, and by shading with just a little bit of color - or using a distinct font if you like the monocrhomatic look, to tie together territories of the same realm.

[Bones2484]

I do not like this revamp at all.

One of the interesting game play elements on this map is the blocking position in the center. The new boundry river will change that gameplay, and not for the better I'm afraid.

What are you referring to? All the same choke points are still there.

[gimil]

Moving this on over!

[Yanarix]

It was suggested back on page 1, but the 3's and 5's are very easy to confuse if youre not paying attention or have a small screen. granted, once you know to look for it, you dont miss it again; still, it shouldnt be too hard to fix.

[gimil]

REVAMP take 2!

I have took the graphical style from Feudal Epic and applied it to the original feudal war because I would like something consistant between the two maps.

Tell me what you think.

[bigimg]http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c64/Gimil_01/FeudalWarsmall-2.jpg[/bigimg]

[TaCktiX]

The new banners up top are cramptastic on the top of the actual map. Feudal Empire's castle is slightly overshadowed by the bonus box. Removing those borders would help a lot. Also, due to the land visible underneath the banners, I had the feeling at first glance "hey, how am I supposed to see my army counts on those northern territories", then reminded myself that the original Feudal War isn't that big.

Overall, the new style looks good, though.

[The Fuzzy Pengui]

Rhu, Fol, and Yer fonts look fine, but the fonts by the castles are way too dark IMO...pretty hard to read.
Also, I don't really like the banner at the top of this one, the original banner fits the map better, I think.

I like the rest of it, though

[Geger]

It was suggested back on page 1, but the 3's and 5's are very easy to confuse if youre not paying attention or have a small screen. granted, once you know to look for it, you dont miss it again; still, it shouldnt be too hard to fix.

seconded

[e_i_pi]

How have I only just noticed this?!

Positive notes:
The level of detail is beautiful, things like the whitewash at the bridge pylons - sweet.
A part of me wishes there were murloc villages on Lake Minstellos island haha. But seriously, the Lake islands may benefit from a little texture (copse of trees, or some such), but are otherwise nicely shaped and shaded.
The villages look nice, and the smoke is a nice touch.
The style of the original is retained and built on, it really is very nice.

Critical Notes:
The tops and bottoms of the cliffs don't feel right. it would be nice if the tops of the cliffs melded with the grass more, and the bottom of the cliffs had shadows cast, though I understand this is fiddly work.
The castle fonts need something, I'm guessing (if you're using PS) change the font type from whatever it is to Strong or possibly Crisp(Sharp?) - it looks like it's on Normal at the moment. Giving the layer a Colour Overlay of mint-white, and then setting that overlay to Colour Dodge/Colour Burn of about 10-15% may give it just that tiniest amount of bright contrast it needs to secure clarity.
The green is great. Too great methinks. I like the saturation, but the entire map is some shade of green aside from the villages, which for me just makes it seem a little too awash. Maybe make the roads a little more brown, or perhaps desaturate/recolour the title panel. Maybe even look into changing the province numbers of the castles to a blacker or less saturated hue. The borders and the river are the perfect hue though, I wouldn't dream of touching them

Overall:
Gorgeous. I've never been great at this map, but this revamp may be just what it needs to get me playing it more often

[gimil]

Thanks you your post PI I will playing around with what you suggested and see what comes of it. Expect an update sometime today.

[wcaclimbing]

Could you move Lake Minstello 5 and 6 away from the Barbarians territory, please? Just switch a few territory names around.

I've had tons of attacks go bad because I accidentally attack Barbarians 6 instead of minstello 6. It'd be much easier if those were separated from eachother a bit...

[hecter]

I find the territory borders and paths to be so similar that they almost run together, and it's pretty hard on the eyes to differentiate them.